Would you vaccinate your child?

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Have just seen a post (in the daily Mail, sorry) suggesting that all over 12s could be offered a vaccine from September. It made mention of the AZ vaccine trials in children above 6 so I am unsure whether this vaccine is one of the ones planned for use?

This was along side the news that the az vaccine carries a 1 in 126000 chance of death.

Bearing in mind that 14 people under 20 have died of Covid.

How is this a sensible risk/benefit analysis?!

I am in my late 30s and when I did the Covid calculator my risk of dying if I caught Covid (which is obviously not a guaranteed thing) is 1 in 145000 so I am assuming the risk for a 12 year old is thousands of times less than that.

Who would vaccinate their children?

@MRex

Who's to say the virus won't mutate to become weaker? Just like the 1918 flu virus did for example that never had a vaccine After it killed an estimated 50 million people. Currently the world has logged 3 million deaths from covid and 2% of the world infected; of course that's an underestimate so let's say 7% infected and 10 million deaths so far. Herd immunity is thought to begin at around 70%. That means without vaccination the world faces perhaps 10 times as many deaths as we have seen in the past 18 months. In my opinion it might be nice to avoid that if possible.

But we are vaccinating people. The discussion here isn’t whether to vaccinate at all, it’s whether or not children should/need to be vaccinated.

Of course it makes sense to vaccinate the people most likely to end up seriously ill or those most likely to die. Iirc, the top 9 groups (over 50s + cV) accounted for 90-99% of deaths. So not vaccinating children is not going to lead to ‘10 times as many deaths’ or anywhere near it.

No way

Probably not and I say that as someone who has had the AZ vaccine already without regret. My youngest has some allergies and had to have his MMR in hospital in case of a reaction, thankfully there wasn't one but I'd feel uncomfortable giving him any new vaccine without this safety precaution in place.

Op where did you get your figures for child deaths please. The Lsncet says 29 for UK

Who said it’s a 1 in 146,000 change of death from the AZ vaccine!?

No, I wouldn't. There is no point.

Re vaccines and Nurenburg code. Wrong.
www.boomlive.in/world/do-vaccinations-violate-human-rights-under-the-nuremberg-code-8308

I have two teenagers, I'd let them get vaccinated.

Yes

@TinaYouFatLard

No. No way. I’ve had the vaccine myself and am being investigated for a possible sever reaction.

There are only 300 children in the trial. What if there is a 1/1000 chance of adverse effects? That’s a genuine question if anyone has a genuine answer.

Oh no poor you! What reaction did have and what vaccine?

No I wouldn't. I am not antivaxx, but the covid risk for kids is extremely low, and if the older generation take up the vaccine properly that is enough to achieve herd immunity.

There has been insufficient trialling of these vaccines for me to take a chance on behalf of my children, I'd like to see them working generally for a few years before I agree for my children to be vaccinated.

Not a chance. Will have the vaccine myself but absolutely not letting DS have it.

It will be totally up to them
If they have it. Eldest is 19, so really is his decision as he's an adult.

Youngest is 13 and as far as we are concerned, the decision is his, the same as it was for the twice weekly testing for school.

My 16 year old has had the pfeizer vaccine. He was eligible because his dad is particularly at risk. I did feel a.bit funny about it..much more so than when I had mine, but he was keen and for us it is a different sort of choice.

I felt the opposite, I was pleased my 16 year olds had it because they mix more in school and socialize more outside school. They need the protection more than I do.

@MRex
My two eldest children, teens actually, say they won’t have the vaccine because their risk is low, they are not entitled to a flu vaccine each year as they are too old for the rollout of flu vaccines given to children ie they were in older year groups so “missed” out, eldest says he was “too old” for HPV vaccine as there was a delay of a few years before vaccinating boys even though benefit was clear to be seen and they both say not enough data has/will be collected on the side effects or long term side effects. On the last point an older cousin was affected by the swine flu vaccine.

All reasons I can’t and won’t argue against unless there is a shift in age group being affected.

My DC are all adults now so the decision is theirs. The one offered it has had it.

That said, although DC are at very low risk of death from Covid, would parents be prepared to vaccinate to avoid long Covid? To avoid further lockdowns and the impact on education etc?

Genuine question as I have no skin in the game.

I want them vaccinated because they are so exposed to so many people.

DH office worker with 10 co workers is very different being shipped around a large school with hundreds of other students and teachers.

@HelloMissus

My DC are all adults now so the decision is theirs. The one offered it has had it.

That said, although DC are at very low risk of death from Covid, would parents be prepared to vaccinate to avoid long Covid? To avoid further lockdowns and the impact on education etc?

Genuine question as I have no skin in the game.

Nope, not prepared to vaccinate DS for those reasons. He's 7, almost 8.

wax that’s fair enough.
As I say - no skin in the game for me. I was just reading the piece in today’s Times about long Covid in children (apparently asymptomatic kids can develop it weeks later).

Absolutely not under any circumstances.

It would be immoral IMO.

I'd let my kids have the covid vaccine when hell freezes over.

I have a question. Are they offering vaccinations to children yet? In certain parts of the country.

My friend who had cancer so is considered immunocompromised, had had 2, as has her Dh. Now her dd, aged 17 has had her first.

She asked if our ds's have been offered. They haven't. I've had 2, Dh 1, ds's none. Am I supposed to ask?

Yes. Ds has severe autism and was advised to shield because of his inability to cope with medical treatment. Some adults like him had dnrs put on them so he will be vaccinated as soon as it is available.

No way.
Don't want my children to be lab rats.
I am not having it either.