This is so fucking shit for young people

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Yeah i know its shit for everyone before you pounce on me

But imagine being around 20 just now...no pubs, no nightclubs, no jobs around, no buzz in your town centre, no excuse to dress up in something new, or planning your latest night out, meeting your pals and all the excitement of the night ahead.

Its just so fucking shite.

I got the train home tonight from work, Glasgow city centre is a ghost town. Places that were always busy boarded up, of course everything except like of newsagents and tesco's shut. Its Friday night. It was always jumping when i was young, absolutely jumping. It was dead. On the train was a bunch if young boys, playing music a bit too loud, all singing along....going home from the city centre at 6pm!!!!. I could have cried watching them all, a nice sunny evening and the only place they are heading was back to mum and dads, or a local park maybe, i dont know. They were about 18, casual dressed, haircuts, all wanting a good time with their pals and probably hoping to meet a partner if they were single.

Where is the life for these kids???

This has gone on long enough. I dont care if i never see inside a pub again. I've had a brilliant social life at that age. Now they have fuck all.

Its too much.

savethegrannies

The young have been treated like second class citizens from day one of this. Its a fucking disgrace. I've fallen out with a couple of baby boomers over this I dont mind admitting. They simply do not get it, they have nice comfy pensions which won't be touched when it comes to paying for all this, and all have been just continually moaning for everybody get the sodding vaccine so they can get on with their cruises.
They can say what they sodding like, they would not have been so content to ensure we all 'stayed home and protected the NHS' if it was them losing their homes and jobs and if it was them who would be paying for all this in future.
The tories have looked after thier core voters, we all know it. I mean they even kept the sodding garden centres open ffs.
Here's another thing: why did teachers and other front line workers not get vaccined before people in thier 60s who were retired and who were not compelled to go out to keep a roof over their head?
So, so unfair.

Because we're not tory voters!!

But most of us get it

The virus happened. Across the globe. They can't blame anyone for that. Countries responded in different ways. I dont believe we will know what the correct way to act was for a while. Yes, it is terrible for the young. Maybe things could have been handled differently, who knows. But give them more credit. Give them much more credit. They will not all be there sitting in their bedrooms hating every single person over the age of 43. Hopefully, they will do something more constructive to create a better society rather than sit there declaring how unfair life is. Its sad if you have no faith in this generation. It's sad if you think they are not capable enough to sort out this shit show you believe other generations have created.

@Tealightsandd I think you’d like us all to sit in a dark room berating ourselves for being young and able to afford nights out and holidays. The injustice of it all !

I'm a mature student doing my first year at uni all online. It's been OK for me as I'm in my mid thirties but the young ones on the course are so unhappy. One contacted me randomly confessing they were going to kill themselves. Many more have dropped out. One French student had to spend Christmas alone in her dorm because she couldn't travel home. It truly has been a nightmare for them.
It's also been awful for younger children. I don't think my 5 year old really remembers what it was like before, and we were happy and she had a lovely life. These children will have their earliest years defined by before and then after covid and its heartbreaking.
It's not easy for anyone but of course its been hardest for the young. So much is out of their control when their emotional development requires feeling safe and secure.

@TempsPerdu That’s an important point, about the post-war reforms making life better for average people. We need something similar post-covid, focussing on the young. I don’t suppose it will happen.

My 16 year old daughter appreciates the stressful exam pass She's been dealt. She's worked hard through school and the predicted grades should be fine for 6th form. My 14 year old has missed out socially but both are busy doing their online socialising and starting inperson meetups again.

Neither of them, have ever throughout this time, complained that their generation have been screwed. It's something that I only ever hear on mumsnet, said by parents who are understandably sad that their kid's life experiences have been forced to alter. The kids (and I come across many through school) are pretty accepting of the situation. I think back to my 16 year old self and can't imagine living this way but then we had no Internet or netflix.

@twelly

I feel the teenagers and young adults have really suffered disproportionately more . They have given up freedom and have been confined to home when actually they probably could have mixed. The old and vulnerable have been protected but as a country we should have let life continued fir everyone else.

I do feel very sorry for the clinically vulnerable young people. There's lots of them. Must be very hard to see how they're seen as such an inconvenient burden - "the vulnerable" - by so many.

[quote Flyonawalk]@TempsPerdu That’s an important point, about the post-war reforms making life better for average people. We need something similar post-covid, focussing on the young. I don’t suppose it will happen.[/quote]
We wont with the tories in power.

Yanbu it's crap.

@Tealightsandd. Honestly what planet are you on?? Who sees the clinically vulnerable young people as a burden? Are you just making it up as you go along here??

Completely agree OP. The young have been asked to sacrifice so much to protect the elderly and I haven't seen much in the way of gratitude or even acknowledgement from the elderly of what this has cost them.

My 17 year old had her GCSEs cancelled, her prom, leaving school stuff. She's then been sat on her own in her bedroom doing a brand new course via zoom. She's not been in college with her new classmates that much so hasn't created friendships.

Her old friends meet up when restrictions allow but they sit on a field. DH keeps saying that she should have grown out of that by now but where on earth would she go. At 17 we used to go to the local skating rink, cinema, bowling, etc. None of that has been open.

She wants a job but nothing much around and her driving lessons are postponed until her provisional turns up as they are taking weeks longer than normal.

In our city in March, 6 young people jumped off the local bridge, one of them a friend of my daughters. I think the late teens/early 20's have had a fairly shit time.

I have a 4, 9 and 13 year old who are all completely fine and although I've hated not being able to socialise, I have DH and the kids to entertain me and with a young family I wasn't out every night.

@TempsPerdu* That’s an important point, about the post-war reforms making life better for average people. We need something similar post-covid, focussing on the young. I don’t suppose it will happen.

Completely agree, never going to happen with Tory voters though.

It's been crap for some and helped others. It's not a one size fits all, I know at least 2 young/mid 20s that thanks to the pandemic and having to adjust their behaviour are now in a position to buy. Yes they've not been out partying but they're going into the next stages of their lives in a stronger position.

[quote ssd]@Tealightsandd. Honestly what planet are you on?? Who sees the clinically vulnerable young people as a burden? Are you just making it up as you go along here??[/quote]
The posters talking about "giving up their freedom for the elderly and vulnerable."

Perhaps even more than the elderly or at least as much, I feel most sorry for clinically extremely vulnerable children. They've had to shield for much of the year and unlike their peers they won't be able to enjoy the loosening of restrictions.

Must be awful for a clinically vulnerable child to hear adults talking about "giving up their freedom" for the vulnerable.

It's massively shit, but it's even more shit for elderly. At least the young will have a chance to make up for lost time

It so bloody isn't . I have got elderly parents and 19/20 year old DC's and I know which ones have had the shittiest end of the stick, I'll give you a clue, it's not the elderly ones who wouldn't exactly want to be out dancing on tables, meeting new people, learning to live independently, learning everything there is to learn, I could go on

I was actually shocked being in a Glasgow recently. I had to go in ton the office for a day and it has lost its ‘life’, remember Friday drinks then the last train from central which is usually a party and sing along, young people dressed to the 9’s out having a great time, making random pals in the chippy....young people are missing out so much.

@savethegrannies brilliantly put and I couldn’t agree more

[quote MercyBooth]@SamBeckettsLastLeap My 85 year old mum agrees with your gran. She says to me "whats going to be left for young people when all this is over"[/quote]
I heard a quote a while back:

"Enjoy the lockdown because the future is going to be hell "

@savethegrannies

The young have been treated like second class citizens from day one of this. Its a fucking disgrace. I've fallen out with a couple of baby boomers over this I dont mind admitting. They simply do not get it, they have nice comfy pensions which won't be touched when it comes to paying for all this, and all have been just continually moaning for everybody get the sodding vaccine so they can get on with their cruises. They can say what they sodding like, they would not have been so content to ensure we all 'stayed home and protected the NHS' if it was them losing their homes and jobs and if it was them who would be paying for all this in future. The tories have looked after thier core voters, we all know it. I mean they even kept the sodding garden centres open ffs. Here's another thing: why did teachers and other front line workers not get vaccined before people in thier 60s who were retired and who were not compelled to go out to keep a roof over their head? So, so unfair.

Absolutely! MIL is living the life of fucking Riley at the moment, friends and family round, indoors, for tea and cake. In fact she’s done this all the way through whilst we’ve been abiding by the rules to protect people like her. She’s vaccinated now and cares even less, booking multiple holidays abroad and having about 5 bubbles! Meanwhile I’m still being ultra careful because I’m not vaccinated and I work in a school. Yes I am jealous/bitter.

But on a plus note, Brighton this afternoon was full of groups of 18-25 year olds enjoying a drink with their friends at the beach bars. It was really nice to see people enjoying themselves.

@Loveistheonlyway
Pre pandemic, my elderly aunt went dancing weekly. Probably not the same music as younger people and the dancing was on the floors rather than tables but she loved it. It kept her going and gave her social interaction. Many elderly live alone.

@Tealightsandd

Must be awful for a clinically vulnerable child to hear adults talking about "giving up their freedom" for the vulnerable.

If you can show me one adult who has told a clinically vulnerable child they gave up their freedom for them, I'll give you a million quid. Cos its never happened and you know it.

Yanbu at all ssd