This is so fucking shit for young people

[ssd]

Yeah i know its shit for everyone before you pounce on me

But imagine being around 20 just now...no pubs, no nightclubs, no jobs around, no buzz in your town centre, no excuse to dress up in something new, or planning your latest night out, meeting your pals and all the excitement of the night ahead.

Its just so fucking shite.

I got the train home tonight from work, Glasgow city centre is a ghost town. Places that were always busy boarded up, of course everything except like of newsagents and tesco's shut. Its Friday night. It was always jumping when i was young, absolutely jumping. It was dead. On the train was a bunch if young boys, playing music a bit too loud, all singing along....going home from the city centre at 6pm!!!!. I could have cried watching them all, a nice sunny evening and the only place they are heading was back to mum and dads, or a local park maybe, i dont know. They were about 18, casual dressed, haircuts, all wanting a good time with their pals and probably hoping to meet a partner if they were single.

Where is the life for these kids???

This has gone on long enough. I dont care if i never see inside a pub again. I've had a brilliant social life at that age. Now they have fuck all.

Its too much.

I'd hope no one has actually said it to a child's face, but it's being said here and elsewhere. They'll hear and see things. Children are good at picking up on things. They're vulnerable not stupid.

Yes, those of us in our 30s/40s/50s are missing going out. But at least we've had a long time of
doing it. I was never at home from about 16- leaving for uni. I don't know how I'd have survived a ld with my parents.

And as for previous generations still having fun after marriage, that's not the tale my gran (married at 18 and busy popping out my dad and uncles and auntiesand working in local factory) Or my mum (married at 23; dad continued living as though single- until cv) told.

@Tealightsandd

I'd hope no one has actually said it to a child's face, but it's being said here and elsewhere. They'll hear and see things. Children are good at picking up on things. They're vulnerable not stupid.

Oh for christ sake.

@ssd agree with you. Some views are hard to comprehend.

@Slipperfairy

Yes, those of us in our 30s/40s/50s are missing going out. But at least we've had a long time of doing it. I was never at home from about 16- leaving for uni. I don't know how I'd have survived a ld with my parents.

And as for previous generations still having fun after marriage, that's not the tale my gran (married at 18 and busy popping out my dad and uncles and auntiesand working in local factory) Or my mum (married at 23; dad continued living as though single- until cv) told.

Not everyone has, I spent my 20s saving up for a house.

But you can say the same for thos rings their 20s, they have plenty of life left to make up for it.

That's why its just shit for everyone regardless of age group. We are all missing out on things.

The young have rights and the elderly have rights also. These granny bashing threads are disgusting.

@ssd

Yeah i know its shit for everyone before you pounce on me

But imagine being around 20 just now...no pubs, no nightclubs, no jobs around, no buzz in your town centre, no excuse to dress up in something new, or planning your latest night out, meeting your pals and all the excitement of the night ahead.

Its just so fucking shite.

I got the train home tonight from work, Glasgow city centre is a ghost town. Places that were always busy boarded up, of course everything except like of newsagents and tesco's shut. Its Friday night. It was always jumping when i was young, absolutely jumping. It was dead. On the train was a bunch if young boys, playing music a bit too loud, all singing along....going home from the city centre at 6pm!!!!. I could have cried watching them all, a nice sunny evening and the only place they are heading was back to mum and dads, or a local park maybe, i dont know. They were about 18, casual dressed, haircuts, all wanting a good time with their pals and probably hoping to meet a partner if they were single.

Where is the life for these kids???

This has gone on long enough. I dont care if i never see inside a pub again. I've had a brilliant social life at that age. Now they have fuck all.

Its too much.

So people in their 30s,. 40s, 50s etc don't feel the same then? You do know all ages have a social life not just you teeny boppers

YANBU

Totally rubbish. And no, it's definitely not worse for the elderly.

@1dayatatime

There was a choice, sacrifice the futures of young people or the life expectancy of the over 80s.

The government with the backing of the majority of the population chose to sacrifice young people's futures.

No there wasn't

Millions in the U.K. would have died (of all ages) if we had just allowed the virus to run rife.

Today’s youth have reasons to be very angry

No, no they don't.

No one asked for a pandemic, it's no ones fault.

Upset/disappointed/frustrated..but not angry, no.

Encouraging this mindset will not help them.

They have their whole lives ahead of them 1-2 years is a small part of it, everyone's been 'out of circulation' for the same amount of time (roughly).

Making out they're worse off than everyone else is fuelling a sense of entitlement that will not help them.

I get so pissed off with this "poor young people" thing. A large majority of them haven't given a shit about this pandemic. Don't wear masks, don't socially distance etc etc etc. They feel invincible. You lot spouting forth "poor young people" have encouraged them to behave like they are.

Lots of them (not all) are behaving like they always did. The ones to feel sorry for are those elderly ones who have been so afraid of going outside their front door incase they come across some of those "poor young people"

But what use is all this pity? Empathising only goes so far. How about looking at what people as individuals, or as parents can do to improve the situation and direct energy into looking forwards. That's what you all want isn't it?

It's been rubbish but surely everyone is keen to get back to normal? Everyone I know is happy now things have opened up a bit

It is shit, I agree, but not a lot can be done about it. I do agree with @Skinnytailedsquirrel though, this is exactly the attitude that's been taken around here.

I agree. Im in my late 30s, married with a toddler and another on the way. Even 5 years ago when I was single this would have been utter shit and may have ruined my chances of meeting my husband while I’m still young enough to have kids. The me of my 20s would have missed out on lots of foreign travel, university socialising, partying, festivals etc. Yes it hasn’t been the best year but I am thankful I wasn’t younger and my DC are small enough to never remember this time or miss out on vital education.

Yes it’s utterly shit for them but we are so lucky that we seem to be coming through it. The youngsters are hopefully all out tonight (in the cold but at least out). Then in 4 weeks they can sit inside. We are getting there. Loads of other countries just gone into lockdown or have been in lockdown and have no roadmap out. We are nearly there. But yes I do sympathise a lot. They have done so well.

@mustlovegin

The young have rights and the elderly have rights also. These granny bashing threads are disgusting.

Yes this. It's utterly utterly shit for young people (and older) but there's a nasty underlying tone.

The "giving up freedom for the elderly and vulnerable" narrative. Unpleasant ageism aside, presumably these posters think clinically vulnerable young adults and children don't count, when they speak that way. They also forget that it's been to protect young healthy people too. They can and do develop long covid.

@Waxonwaxoff0

YANBU. I keep thinking of students who are supposed to be having the time of their lives at uni, people celebrating 18th and 21st birthdays. It must be shit.

Yep, my eldest 21 in Jan, uni whole year in a bedroom studying, just doing his finals now. Then my youngest supposed to be in upper 6th , no uni open days, no driving lessons until this week. No exams. No 18th parties. They / we have made the best of it but I do feel for them all. I know that many has lost their lives, jobs and loved ones too, my heart goes out to them. It’s all really sad.

All these young people, all they have had is an early welcome to how utter shit life can be sometimes. That sometimes life doesn't go the way its meant and all you can do is adapt and make the most of whatever the situation is.

Welcome to the Real world where things don't go the way we expect them to do.

I think it’s been pretty shit for everyone young and old !! I am just so so glad my teenage children are back in secondary school seeing their friends and my widowed mum in her eighties can find some enjoyment in just visiting a garden centre . I am hoping things will improve all round for everyone.

The lockdown was to protect vulnerable groups but the majority of the vulnerable were the elderly. Young people have given up a lot - baffling you choose not to acknowledge this.

SEriously it has been 1 year .

AS one of my colleagues from Croatia said - we did not go out for years, no school, no sport no seeing friends and saw our friends sniped and murdered in cold blood.

We got to university and have happy healthy lives - the British are obsessed with what has been stolen from them - really it is not that bad.

@LatteLoverLovesLattes

"No there wasn't

Millions in the U.K. would have died (of all ages) if we had just allowed the virus to run rife. "

+++++++

So firstly it is impossible to say how many in the UK would have died " if we had just let the virus run rife" so where exactly you get your analysis of "millions of deaths" is at best intriguing or at worst just made up.

However we could look at Brazil which has had less minimal restrictions than the UK but is currently suffering less deaths per 100k population than the UK. Even the Government scientists put the worst case scenario at 500k deaths but in any event not in the millions.

Secondly " deaths of all ages" - again i am intrigued how you arrived at this conclusion or did you just make that up as well? The NHS website shows the average age of death from Covid to be around 82 and the numbers for the under 20s the last time I looked was around 35.

So yes I will restate my original post that there was a choice between young people's futures and the over 80s.

Tealightsandd

That's lovely but your aunt has probably had years, decades of dancing. Our young people have had nothing if they were just starting out and the future for them is hardly looking rosy is it? You can't really compare being 20 with being 70 in terms of socialising you just can't.

Blessex

One of mine has really retreated into himself, all he wanted to do before Christmas was to see his friends and now I can't get him out, it's so sad and very worrying

It's horrendous how young people have been treated. Children too. Everything cancelled. For a short time, okay they can cope with it. But where is the end. The real end?

I have said I would happily forgo my own social life for my children to have everything back - clubs, swimming, play dates, seeing grandparents, school trips. It's a horrible world right now and it feels like some want it to go on and on. Poor kids.