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This is so fucking shit for young people

652 replies

ssd · 16/04/2021 20:32

Yeah i know its shit for everyone before you pounce on me

But imagine being around 20 just now...no pubs, no nightclubs, no jobs around, no buzz in your town centre, no excuse to dress up in something new, or planning your latest night out, meeting your pals and all the excitement of the night ahead.

Its just so fucking shite.

I got the train home tonight from work, Glasgow city centre is a ghost town. Places that were always busy boarded up, of course everything except like of newsagents and tesco's shut. Its Friday night. It was always jumping when i was young, absolutely jumping. It was dead. On the train was a bunch if young boys, playing music a bit too loud, all singing along....going home from the city centre at 6pm!!!!. I could have cried watching them all, a nice sunny evening and the only place they are heading was back to mum and dads, or a local park maybe, i dont know. They were about 18, casual dressed, haircuts, all wanting a good time with their pals and probably hoping to meet a partner if they were single.

Where is the life for these kids???

This has gone on long enough. I dont care if i never see inside a pub again. I've had a brilliant social life at that age. Now they have fuck all.

Its too much.

OP posts:
Ellasmummyx1 · 18/04/2021 10:27

HE wanted his first driving lesson on his 17th birthday (again, impossible to replicate). Of course he'll go on and have lessons, but it's not the thing he's been looking forward to doing, so I'm disappointed for him
It’s really not that big a deal though not having a driving lesson on your birthday. That’s just silly and he’ll soon get over it

needadvice54321 · 18/04/2021 10:29

@Ellasmummyx1

HE wanted his first driving lesson on his 17th birthday (again, impossible to replicate). Of course he'll go on and have lessons, but it's not the thing he's been looking forward to doing, so I'm disappointed for him It’s really not that big a deal though not having a driving lesson on your birthday. That’s just silly and he’ll soon get over it
Again, that's his feelings, he's looked forward to that for a very long time. Are his feelings irrelevant?
mustlovegin · 18/04/2021 10:30

The term 'landmark birthday' is cringe

SusannaMorvern · 18/04/2021 10:31

DD is a yr11, and the GCSE stress has made her ill, she just wants to sit her exams as normal. But they've had little teaching, constant changes, random assessments with little warning or preparation on work they haven't covered, with the pressure that any or all of this will make her grade.
Then there's the idiots saying to her, you're lucky, you'll be given your grade for nothing, it makes me rage. She is unlikely to make her predicted grades.

Ellasmummyx1 · 18/04/2021 10:31

@needadvice54321 not totally irrelevant no but a bit of perspective wouldn’t hurt him

AbsolutelyPatsy · 18/04/2021 10:32

i agree with finding a partner, a relevant point,
how does this happen, if you are following covid rules.
very hard.

needadvice54321 · 18/04/2021 10:32

[quote Ellasmummyx1]@needadvice54321 not totally irrelevant no but a bit of perspective wouldn’t hurt him[/quote]
Yes he's incredibly grateful to be alive, it doesn't stop him being disappointed ffs

mustlovegin · 18/04/2021 10:32

Having to be subject to rules that don't really benefit you as an individual for the good of society

Are the posters spouting this nonsense the same who consider themselves to be altruistic, worried about climate change, inclusive, left wing and overall very selfless? Just wondering

mustlovegin · 18/04/2021 10:34

How is anyone meant to find a partner?

They are teenagers/young people FFS. They will have plenty of time to find a partner

Hmm
SylvieHortensis · 18/04/2021 10:39

I think theres a very small minority of posters here who clearly felt out of place as young people and had a miserable time, projecting their feelings and sneering at youngsters...

So if you didn't want to spend all you're time getting pissed and hollering on the train home you felt out of place and had a miserable time? Can't you appreciate that there's a whole spectrum of things young people enjoy and it doesn't have to be one extreme or the other?

I found clubs with their drunks and drug taking intimidating where a minority would find it exhilarating. I liked a drink and a chat with friends in a pub, going travelling and reading and theatre Smile

I was no freak and relished my youth.

AbsolutelyPatsy · 18/04/2021 10:40

@mustlovegin

How is anyone meant to find a partner?

They are teenagers/young people FFS. They will have plenty of time to find a partner

Hmm

young people tend to have partners, if not for long, they are generally the most active.
vaxmeup · 18/04/2021 10:40

@mustlovegin

How is anyone meant to find a partner?

They are teenagers/young people FFS. They will have plenty of time to find a partner

Hmm

Agreed- much worse for late 30s/early 40s who have lost their last chance of finding a partner + having children.
AbsolutelyPatsy · 18/04/2021 10:42

it is not either or, poor young people, but no sympathy for the rest of the country Hmm

everybodysang · 18/04/2021 10:48

@savethegrannies

Problem is a lot of young simply ain't politically aware. Or not enough of them anyway. Why aren't they on the streets protesting this bullshit?
Because it's not bullshit.

My 18 year old and 21 year old DSD and DSS
do not think it's bullshit. And they've had a shit time. They're extremely politically aware. But they're also extremely globally aware. So find it easy to see why restrictions have been necessary (and in what ways our government have screwed up).

It's not a competition. It's really fucking hard for so so many. But if you didn't think a pandemic might be a bit miserable and difficult, you're really fucking stupid.

Why not put your energy into protesting the climate and land pressure issues that lead to pandemic situations?

IrmaFayLear · 18/04/2021 10:52

Ok, plenty of time to find a partner. But ds has not socialised for over a year. He has not spoken to one new person for a year. He sees two old mates for a walk and zooms with a few more.

Ds’s friend’s graduate trainee scheme is all online. He has not met one colleague. They have been told the company is now fully wfh. So he will not meet his workmates unless there are forced social things at some point in the future.

What about students who hoped to make friends at university? Fat chance of that when they are sitting in their bedrooms. No clubs or societies to join, which is how quieter people can find likeminded types.

Even a quiet person who would die rather than go to a nightclub (eg ds) doesn’t want to sit in their bedroom for years on end being told they’re not missing anything. What sort of life is that.

Nappyvalley15 · 18/04/2021 10:53

Mustlove
The great thing about not being young is not having to constantly virtue signal. You can have a complex range of views and feelings.

I think one of the reasons why we hear so little from young people on this is that they have to appear to care about others in order to fit in. Any time they suggest they are missing out they are branded selfish.

Onlinedilema · 18/04/2021 10:55

I agree with you op.

AbsolutelyPatsy · 18/04/2021 10:57

there have been kill the bill protests, so that is something
and the black lives matter protests.

young people of course are fed up and it is indeed not for their benefit it must feel like.thank goodness things are opening up more

needadvice54321 · 18/04/2021 10:58

@Nappyvalley15

Mustlove The great thing about not being young is not having to constantly virtue signal. You can have a complex range of views and feelings.

I think one of the reasons why we hear so little from young people on this is that they have to appear to care about others in order to fit in. Any time they suggest they are missing out they are branded selfish.

Yep
AbsolutelyPatsy · 18/04/2021 10:58

it has been so lonely for so many people, and that is something we dont admit to often.

mustlovegin · 18/04/2021 11:14

The great thing about not being young is not having to constantly virtue signal

It's the parents (on MN) who are virtue signalling constantly while at the same time saying that the old have to 'make space' for the young in a Darwinist fashion. Not the children themselves.

TheClaws · 18/04/2021 11:18

Anyone who can look at young people and feel ambivalence or even a mealy-mouthed glee that they have had this pandemic during what should be a golden time in their lives is a very sad and bitter individual.

IrmaFayLear I don't think anyone is feeling any of those things, let alone "mealy-mouthed glee". It's acknowledged it's a shit time. But it's a shit time for everyone. It just isn't a sliding scale of shit time. (No pun intended.)

IrmaFayLear · 18/04/2021 11:28

But I believe there very much is a sliding scale.

If you have a large property, you’re wfh and no longer commuting, if you have young dcs not at a crucial school stage, if you have several dcs who are company for each other, if your job is secure, if you are a SAHM pleased to have a dh around more.... not at the bottom of the shit scale, are they?

Or the newly-retired affluent, no need to go out, many Ocado deliveries, happy in each other’s company... again, not too bad for them, is it?

Most of us are lurking somewhere around the middle, but there are people who are stuck on the bottom of the sliding scale absolutely caked in shit.

Rejoiningperson · 18/04/2021 11:31

I don’t mind the feeling for a particular section of the population if you want. If some of you on this thread want to feel for young people, fine!

However there is a very dark undertone to the ‘but the young didn’t have to as they weren’t going to die, like those old people who are selfish, have all the property and pensions and had their lives’ so it was somehow more awful for them.

THAT is the bit that I find quite chilling to be honest. And I haven’t met a single young person who feels this way. No teenager I know has any resentment over ‘saving granny’, ‘saving parents’, ‘saving healthcare staff and services’ or ‘saving people who have high risk illnesses’. Why wouldn’t you act to protect your society? Why is something terribly wrong with acting as a community to protect each other?

We do it all the time for each other. It’s called living in a civilized, caring society.

Empressofthemundane · 18/04/2021 11:31

What worries me particularly in regards to young people is that a year or two is a much larger portion of their lives than an older person who is more developed and has more perspective.

Also, we now know that brains don’t reach maturity until 25 years old. We also know that there are developmental windows. Such as language acquisition in toddlers. We know the older the child gets when they have the chance to learn a language, the harder it gets. We don’t know enough about cold and adolescent development to know what other windows a generation may be missing.

It is critical that they learn to form bonds and relationships with people outside of their immediate families for their future well being for instance.