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Vaccine roll out slowing down :(

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CovidHalloween · 06/04/2021 21:23

www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/apr/06/england-covid-vaccine-programme-could-slow-sharply-sage-warns

Just as our turn is about to come, the vaccine roll out is slowing right down.

And I doubt they will move the dates of easing and lifting the lockdown rules that are planned to take place in May and June even if they don’t hit their vaccination targets - as they said they would. Their past performance has proved how slow they are to react and when they reacted it was far too late.

I want this lockdown over and done with, we can’t afford any more mistakes, everyone has had enough.

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bravefox · 06/04/2021 21:30

Yes surprised this isn't being talked about more. First doses has taken an absolute nosedive on the last week.

Very interested to know who will be rocking up to festivals with their COVID passports this summer as it's unlikely to be anybody under 40 at the current rate.

daisiesinmay · 06/04/2021 21:44

Yes it feels like everyone under 50 is being thrown under a bus. From the vaccine rolling out through the age groups to nothing. I know some under 50s have had it, but where I live at age 49 there is just nothing, no chance right now, GPs have said there's no vaccine for under 50s, you can't book on the national system.

The government is just silent on it - why? as if we won't notice?!

DdraigGoch · 06/04/2021 21:46

We've just had a four-day bank holiday weekend. I'm not going to fret about a drop in vaccinations until it becomes something other than a short-term blip.

worriedatthemoment · 06/04/2021 21:53

Didn't we get told april would be more about second doses , this isn't new news

HolmeH · 06/04/2021 21:53

Ahhh. COVID passports aren’t just for the vaccinated 🥴 Will people please read what is actually being said! It’s EITHER a vaccine OR a negative test OR proof of antibodies. So all the under 50’s can still rock up at festivals so long as they test!

mrsknottschicken · 06/04/2021 21:57

As a 45 year-old parent of a school-aged child, I’m not super happy about everything opening up whilst I’m still not vaccinated. I’m not comfortable going to pubs and restaurants yet, but I know that other parents will be. I feel like people our age are in a bit of a risky position if things do slow down.

mrsknottschicken · 06/04/2021 22:03

@HolmeH

Ahhh. COVID passports aren’t just for the vaccinated 🥴 Will people please read what is actually being said! It’s EITHER a vaccine OR a negative test OR proof of antibodies. So all the under 50’s can still rock up at festivals so long as they test!
I’ve got tickets for a festival, bought in 2019 initially. I really don’t want to go unless I’ve been vaccinated, though. I think a lot of folk might feel the same.
Bluntness100 · 06/04/2021 22:04

I don’t understand the confusion here, it’s been known for a few weeks there would be a four week delay where it slowed down and under fifties held back and the government said it won’t impact the overall timelines, we were ahead of target, this just brought it back to target.

SexTrainGlue · 06/04/2021 22:05

It's been posted about many times on MN - obvious from the off that unless capacity doubled at roughly the time that second jabs started falling due, the rate of first jabs would have to slow

Yes, it's a bit shit to wait longer than you thought you might. But even with a bit of a slow-down now we're still vaccinating at a hell of a rate. (and though supply issues were known as a possible further issue, no-one could predict when they would occur, even though the law of sod means it would be the most difficult time)

RosesAndHellebores · 06/04/2021 22:12

Agree with what other posters have observed:
We knew April would be slow
We have just had a long BH weekend of 4 days
We have been advised already that April is a catch up month for 2nd vaccinations
We have been advised that supplies will pick up again in May and the programme will bound ahead again.
Add in the fact that summer chases away Covid and 50%+ will be vaccinated or have antibodies and the risks decline further, particularly as the under 50s who are fit and well are less likely to suffer adverse effects.

The only bit that seems nuts to me is the rush to holiday in the Costa where the situation is far, far worse than here.

ConnieDobbs · 06/04/2021 22:22

Do we know how long the vaccine gives protection for? If there is a possibility that it might only last a few months, then it might be better to get the vaccine in late summer in order to be fully protected for the next wave in the autumn.

I think I'd rather wait now and get vaccinated in late summer, I might get lucky and get offered the new single dose vaccine.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 06/04/2021 22:26

This isn't surprising though surely? It was said that the focus will be on second jabs for a while.

Under 50s are very low risk which is why we haven't been done yet. I think it's fair enough, we can't wait until everyone hss been vaccinated before we start opening up. Stay home if you want but I think more of us will want to get back out there even without the vaccine.

PurpleDaisies · 06/04/2021 22:27

How did you miss this? It was widely reported that this was going to happen in April.

AcornAutumn · 06/04/2021 22:39

OP you want the lockdown done

The rumbles of a third wave etc - I reckon 17 May opening won't happen. They will slow down the vaccine rollout so they can catch up on the digital ID.

Tryingtryingandtrying · 06/04/2021 22:42

Flu is a higher risk to under 45s than Covid. So unless you feel the same about annual. Flu vaccines, statistically you are safer as there is no longer very much flu circulating at all..

user123456778 · 06/04/2021 22:58

@Bluntness100

I don’t understand the confusion here, it’s been known for a few weeks there would be a four week delay where it slowed down and under fifties held back and the government said it won’t impact the overall timelines, we were ahead of target, this just brought it back to target.
I was just going to say this! It was in the briefings (and all over the news) a few weeks ago that there would be limited vaccine supply throughout April and therefore they would focus what they did have on second doses so first doses would drop. Reading this thread you'd think they were keeping it a secret
Tealightsandd · 06/04/2021 23:11

@Tryingtryingandtrying

Flu is a higher risk to under 45s than Covid. So unless you feel the same about annual. Flu vaccines, statistically you are safer as there is no longer very much flu circulating at all..
And the 45-50 year olds? They should've been included in group 9, like NI is doing.

I'm not too sure that you're right either about flu being a higher risk to under 45s. Women under 50 are the highest risk group for long covid.

Tryingtryingandtrying · 06/04/2021 23:16

@Tealightsandd I think they are the highest risk group for post viral syndromes generally.

Katie517 · 06/04/2021 23:20

@AcornAutumn the May 17th easing will happen, the “rumblings” of a third wave are yet again the predictions of doom loving sage. This summer will not be worse than last summer now we have vaccinated the most vulnerable.We have to open up we are not going for zero covid, a lot of people were not worried last summer about going out to eat etc. without a vaccine. It really needs to come down to if you are worried stay at home but stop forcing everyone else to just because you don’t feel safe. The risk to under 50s is pretty small. It’s getting ridiculous now it really is.

Bluntness100 · 06/04/2021 23:22

I was just going to say this! It was in the briefings (and all over the news) a few weeks ago that there would be limited vaccine supply throughout April and therefore they would focus what they did have on second doses so first doses would drop. Reading this thread you'd think they were keeping it a secret

I know. They even did a briefing on it. Very odd. It was hard to miss.

Tealightsandd · 06/04/2021 23:23

America's going fast it seems. Their target is for all adults over 18 to be offered a vaccine by 19 April. Their population is around 350 million.

HeddaGarbled · 06/04/2021 23:28

Yes it feels like everyone under 50 is being thrown under a bus

As every category of person in the U.K. has been deemed to have been thrown under a bus at some point in the last 12 months, I think it’s the bus drivers who have been thrown under the proverbial.

ConnieDobbs · 06/04/2021 23:34

Is that true about flu being a greater risk? I have a flu vaccine every year, as soon as I'm invited. I've had flu a couple of times in the past and it wasn't much fun. But I've been vaccinated this winter and currently flu rates are very low.

I've not been offered a covid vaccine, so that seems a bigger risk to me than flu right now.

AcornAutumn · 06/04/2021 23:35

[quote Katie517]@AcornAutumn the May 17th easing will happen, the “rumblings” of a third wave are yet again the predictions of doom loving sage. This summer will not be worse than last summer now we have vaccinated the most vulnerable.We have to open up we are not going for zero covid, a lot of people were not worried last summer about going out to eat etc. without a vaccine. It really needs to come down to if you are worried stay at home but stop forcing everyone else to just because you don’t feel safe. The risk to under 50s is pretty small. It’s getting ridiculous now it really is.[/quote]
Promise you won't name change so we can chat on the 17th! I really want you to be right.

Eccle80 · 06/04/2021 23:46

Is there data to show flu is a greater risk to under 45s? Either way, as I am eligible for and have a flu jab each year, but haven’t had a covid one, it isn’t the case for all under 45s!