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MHRA may change advice for young people receiving AZ vaccine

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IloveSooty424 · 05/04/2021 22:18

I just saw this news story on Channel 4 news tonight.

www.channel4.com/news/uk-medicines-regulator-considers-issuing-new-advice-over-oxford-astrazeneca-jab

It seems the MHRA may follow other European countries and Canada and advise that younger people should not receive the AZ vaccine. It seems the decision will be made imminently in the coming days.

I’m due to book my vaccine this week and don’t know whether to wait and see how this plays out. I’m 42. I’m also concerned that if younger people will only be offered the Pfizer vaccine it will slow down the vaccine programme substantially.

Any thoughts?

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MimiPigeon · 07/04/2021 15:47
MrsIsobelCrawley · 07/04/2021 15:47

Does this now make the MHRA 'fuckwits'?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/4193400-to-think-the-eu-countries-are-utter-fuckwits-over-the-az-vaccine

CuriousaboutSamphire · 07/04/2021 15:48

JVT- reiterating that this isn't an unusual situation, it happens with vaccines all the time, gave an example, then one of his similes, Atlantic liner turning round.

Might be small delays, might have to travel further to get the right vaccine. But the NHS is working on it.

More work ongoing, more reviews ongoing. Correction being made as precaution against a very rare occurrence.

puffinkoala · 07/04/2021 15:48

I would have it but I am 49 so probably at the very top end of the risk age group, if I am in it at all.

If I had had the first dose and been fine, I wouldn't be at all worried about having the second dose.

I am a bit surprised they've not analysed the 30 cases for any risk factors though. Or maybe they have and they really can't find any common factors.

EasterIssland · 07/04/2021 15:49

@bumbleymummy

No one has to be vaccinated. People in their 20s/30s/40s are at low risk from the virus. If you don’t want the vaccine or would rather wait until you have a choice of a different one then just do that.
if you want to have long covid then refuse the vaccine please, it'll be quicker for those that want to have it
Comefromaway · 07/04/2021 15:50

*CovidCorvid Wed 07-Apr-21 15:41:48
littlepeas

This is an extremely shit outcome for women in their 30’s and 40’s. I do not feel confident enough to have the vaccine based on this latest briefing. I’m 38.

It’s also shit if you’re 19yo and just had your first dose of AZ and are now told it’s ok to have a second dose.....even though it’s no longer safe for under 30s. 🤷‍♀️*

Exactly. I know feel like dd will be playing Russian Roulette with her 2nd dose.

DayBath · 07/04/2021 15:50

The comparison to the risk of taking The Pill is bordering on misinformation. The type and severity of clots involved in the pill versus the vaccine is different.

vickyp0llard · 07/04/2021 15:51

I'm 45 and take the mini-pill, there is so much more risk of a blood clot from that than there is from the AZ vaccine.

yet again...it's a rare type of serious brain blood clot, not just any old one!

MarshaBradyo · 07/04/2021 15:51

Missed the briefing annoyingly.

I’ll still have it and would prefer sooner but I’m 46

amarya · 07/04/2021 15:51

Nothing in life is risk free. The vaccine is exceptionally safe. It's right they collect data and fine tune their advice. The biggest danger is that people vastly over estimate their own risk from the vaccine and don't go for it.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 07/04/2021 15:51

They did, and the other cases. They had the same data as the MHRA and came to a different decision based on UK data and infection patterns.

There is still a difference between the 2 decisions but those could be explained by demographics.

CovidCorvid · 07/04/2021 15:52

[quote oldegg123]@CovidCorvid

It isn't that it isn't safe or indeed has been established to be more dangerous for under 30s, it's about the balance of risk.[/quote]
Yeah, I get that. I’m maybe over simplifying things but I can’t work out what’s safer for Dd? What’s the better balance of risk?

At 19yo it looks like AZ and covid are about an equal risk. But she has an autoimmune disease which put her in group 6 which increases her risk of covid but also increases her risk of AZ and clots.

So does she have her 2nd dose or not?

Sorry, I’m worried sick.

Hm2020 · 07/04/2021 15:53

I’m 27 and had my first Az vaccine a few weeks ago and allready have June booked for next one... so what will happen ?

usernotfound0000 · 07/04/2021 15:53

easterissland but what if you've already had covid and haven't suffered from long covid or even anything more than mild symptoms?

DayBath · 07/04/2021 15:53

Very nasty comment @EasterIssland. If you have nothing to add other than wishing disability on others then just leave the adults to discuss things intelligently.

vickyp0llard · 07/04/2021 15:54

if you want to have long covid then refuse the vaccine please, it'll be quicker for those that want to have it

That's pointless scaremongering, most people will never get long covid

Comefromaway · 07/04/2021 15:55

It's tough isn't it Corvid?

EasterIssland · 07/04/2021 15:55

@DayBath

Very nasty comment *@EasterIssland*. If you have nothing to add other than wishing disability on others then just leave the adults to discuss things intelligently.
Absolutely not, the poster has been recommending for a long time not to have this vaccine, the experts are saying someone in their 40s are more at risk of covid itself than from the vaccine, yet the poster recommends not to have the vaccine and wait for another one, in the meantime that person can catch covid and have Long Covid. It's the risk people that will want to wait for another vaccine will have... so if that's the risk people are willing to take then ... it's up to them,
MarshaBradyo · 07/04/2021 15:55

@vickyp0llard

if you want to have long covid then refuse the vaccine please, it'll be quicker for those that want to have it

That's pointless scaremongering, most people will never get long covid

True. But what’s the likelihood of bad outcome from vaccine v Covid?

That’s what I’d look at although for some the risk from vaccine might feel heightened.

terribleg · 07/04/2021 15:56

Had mine recently (mid 30s) & pretty sure I had covid, not sure what to think now.

Comefromaway · 07/04/2021 15:56

@Hm2020

I’m 27 and had my first Az vaccine a few weeks ago and allready have June booked for next one... so what will happen ?
Well apparently you will still be offered your 2nd dose.

I'm seriously wondering whether 19 year old dd (who is a carer) should have the 2nd dose as her risk from covid is much lower.

SophieB100 · 07/04/2021 15:56

Good question from Tom at Sky.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 07/04/2021 15:57

@Hm2020

I’m 27 and had my first Az vaccine a few weeks ago and allready have June booked for next one... so what will happen ?
You need to discuss it with your GP or other professional. You may get more info sent to you... I think that's part of the information dissemination.
EasterIssland · 07/04/2021 15:57

@usernotfound0000

easterissland but what if you've already had covid and haven't suffered from long covid or even anything more than mild symptoms?
of course not everyone has got Long Covid, but someone that hasn't had covid and is not getting vaccinated is the risk they need to take, will I catch covid? will I have long term effects ? same as with the vaccine, if I take az will I die cuz of the trombo? its risks... it's not az and have trombo vs have a healthy life risk free
EasterIssland · 07/04/2021 15:59

@vickyp0llard

if you want to have long covid then refuse the vaccine please, it'll be quicker for those that want to have it

That's pointless scaremongering, most people will never get long covid

true only up to 20% will, however, when you catch covid do you know in advance whether you're int he 80%?