MHRA may change advice for young people receiving AZ vaccine

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I just saw this news story on Channel 4 news tonight.

www.channel4.com/news/uk-medicines-regulator-considers-issuing-new-advice-over-oxford-astrazeneca-jab

It seems the MHRA may follow other European countries and Canada and advise that younger people should not receive the AZ vaccine. It seems the decision will be made imminently in the coming days.

I’m due to book my vaccine this week and don’t know whether to wait and see how this plays out. I’m 42. I’m also concerned that if younger people will only be offered the Pfizer vaccine it will slow down the vaccine programme substantially.

Any thoughts?

Think theyve made the wrong call here.
Ive had AZ. But as clots seem to be below say 55 and mostly women thats who it should have changed for.

i think it's going to create a lot of refusers.
As it does seem AZ is less effective and younger wont get boosters.

The choice isntAZ or covid clearly the best individual choice is another vax...
The situation changing totally from all vaxs have clots to its a different sort of clot to much higher rates. What will next week look like. Also we dont know if say 6m we need top ups or variant vax and that could have to be AZ too....

And yes how much do they know about dose 2.
The uk does seem to have been behind.

Pass that by me again?

Wrong decision based on what?

UK are behind what?

@BuggerBognor

Surely it's GPs need to realise that they aren't special. We pay for their service through taxation and we have agency to decide what goes in our bodies.

Exactly this. It’s 2021 and we don’t live under the Stasi, thank fuck. If they don’t want appointments wasted they should give people a choice, not order them to take one for the team (and call them selfish for wanting choice over what goes into their body).

There was absolutely no system in place for deciding who had rocked up on a particular day at the hospital where my DM was vaccinated. They were using Pfizer that day and they offered to vaccinate me, but I declined because others’ needs was greater. Now they want to palm off the 30-50 group with the deathy clot vaccine that nobody else in the world wants? 🤷🏻‍♀️ GTFO.

And yet there’s been a lot of demand.

No one is forcing you it’s not mandatory.

You don’t get a choice because there is t another available. Take the risk without or have it.

@HSHorror, agree and I don’t think this is the last uturn. Other European countries are right to take much more cautious approach, but of course it’s because they are anti-U.K

is there a reason you don't wash your hands very often

Dry skin, so I've never washed them a lot (after toilet but that's about it) and never get ill, I've half managed to convince myself that I've built up a great immune system by touching escalator handrails then eating crisps

Both my Dds under 30 have had AZ. I assume their second one will be Az too. I would like to know how long after the jab did the symptoms appear? So far so good here: 2 weeks and 5 days in.

@vickyp0llard 🤮😂

@PandoraP
I agree about further U turns, I wouldn't be at all surprised if further restrictions were placed on the AZ vaccine in the coming weeks.
It is very unsettling.
I'm late 50s and had awful reaction to the AZ vaccine 3 weeks ago, was quite poorly for 3 days and took a further week to feel better. I'll probably have the second vaccine due in June, but will see what happens between now and then before finally deciding.

I think you are confusing the EMA and HMRA, the EU and individual countries.

The scientific bodies have said AZ is safe across all adult age groups. The HMRA are adding a recommendation based on the UK roll out and availability of alternative vaccines.

Countries across Europe have made different, changing decisions, some going against that advice.

The UK is taking the advice the HMRA and all of the bodies that contributed to the research, analysis and recommendations.

If you know, not feel, any different let them know!

One DD had a headache but it went in 12 hours. The other had proper way flu symptoms for 2 days. OK after 3 days.

Oh FFS @BuggerBognor 'deathy clot vaccine'

Do you ever fly? DEATHY FLYING
have you ever taken the contraceptive pill? DEATHY PILL
Do you ever get in a car? DEATHY CAR

All have a higher risk to you than the AZ vaccine.

FFS

I personally just can't believe that the UK thought we were all idiots, and tried to convince people that professional medical regulatory agencies were "just jealous of our Great British vaccine and trying to undermine us" as if this was Eurovision. Now that our own regulator has done the same they look completely untrustworthy and foolish, well, more so than they did already after a year of U-turns.

@poshme

Oh FFS *@BuggerBognor* 'deathy clot vaccine'

Do you ever fly? DEATHY FLYING
have you ever taken the contraceptive pill? DEATHY PILL
Do you ever get in a car? DEATHY CAR

All have a higher risk to you than the AZ vaccine.

FFS

Irritating post I agree!

So much ridiculous stuff on here atm

*UK government

[quote SophieB100]@PandoraP
I agree about further U turns, I wouldn't be at all surprised if further restrictions were placed on the AZ vaccine in the coming weeks.
It is very unsettling.
I'm late 50s and had awful reaction to the AZ vaccine 3 weeks ago, was quite poorly for 3 days and took a further week to feel better. I'll probably have the second vaccine due in June, but will see what happens between now and then before finally deciding.[/quote]
What u-turns?

That's been said so many times over the last year. What you call a u-turn us an adjustment, change of procedure based on a growing base of knowledge.

Has anyone had a baby? I know I didn't think about the possibility of dying when I made the choice about getting pregnant.

That's been said so many times over the last year. What you call a u-turn us an adjustment, change of procedure based on a growing base of knowledge.

Exactly. I’d much prefer data-based adaptive response in a pandemic.

@CuriousaboutSamphire, I call it a uturn when only a week ago AZ was completely safe, now it’s not recommended for the under 30s. I give it a couple of weeks before it’s not recommended for the under 40s or 50s too.

30, but pregnant so can't be vaccinated anyway.

But if I wasn't pregnant I'd be declining the AZ, at least until the publish risk data that factors in sex, underline health (including weight) and is broken down by smaller age categories.

As someone that's just turned 30, has a low BMI and no underline health conditions I suspect my risk weighting is nearer to that of the 20-29 group than the 30-39 group.

[quote PandoraP]@CuriousaboutSamphire, I call it a uturn when only a week ago AZ was completely safe, now it’s not recommended for the under 30s. I give it a couple of weeks before it’s not recommended for the under 40s or 50s too.[/quote]
It’s not a u turn

@MarshaBradyo

That's been said so many times over the last year. What you call a u-turn us an adjustment, change of procedure based on a growing base of knowledge.

Exactly. I’d much prefer data-based adaptive response in a pandemic.

When EU states suspended AZ, people on here were calling them "fuckwits" and saying it was motivated by politics/jealousy When we do it, its a "data based adaptive response" lol

lol

Yeah it’s a right laugh a minute.

Lol

I thought I was on the wrong thread!

We've gone from discussing what was said this afternoon to feelings and conspiracies and an almost complete disregard for the information, statistics and science provided.