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Anyone else regretting their choice to get vaccinated?

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onthetracks · 03/04/2021 09:27

I had my first vaccine 4 weeks ago (AZ)
I was really put off my having it and didn’t feel 100% happy, but since I’m clinically vulnerable to Covid and I also look after my elderly grandmother who is Clinically extremely l vulnerable, i thought it was the right thing to do.

Since having the vaccine I read no end of negative reports, side effects, blood clots and now deaths.

I’m terrified that I’m going to develop a blood clot and die.

I know this may sound irrational, which is surprising for me as I’m usually able to rationalise things.
But I can’t help feeling that it’s all been a bit rushed.
We’re all so desperate for normal life that we’ve jumped at the chance to be injected with something that we don’t actually know is safe.

Only now that millions of people are having the vaccine are we being alerted to adverse effects.

I’m really starting to regret that I’ve had the vaccine and I honestly don’t think I will go for my 2nd jab. 😣

OP posts:
Boringlynormal · 03/04/2021 11:37

Something like automated texts or calls could be used. I'm sure many of us regularly see follow up 'customer service rating' text after contacting our bank, insurance companies etc.

True. And we know this technology exists as many of us were invited for our vaccine via text. I’ve also been texted and asked to ‘rate’ my visit to A&E once!

Figgygal · 03/04/2021 11:37

But you’ve had it and your fine Hmm
Get your second one when offered and be grateful

All this eu led stink over AZ is politically motivated op don’t let it undermine confidence

boxingdayagain · 03/04/2021 11:37

The reason most doctors, snd health care professionals in general received the Pfizer vaccine, is that it was approved first. In the uK it has been operational since second week in December. HCP were the first group to be vaccinated.
AZ didn't come into operation until 2021.
There are many different brands of flu vaccine, hep B, MMR etc etc... I think you'll find it very unlikely that many people have questioned who produced their previous vaccines.
The only reason we are fixating on this is the press attention.
Please trust the scientists, the MHRA, the immunologists on this one. You will be well protected whatever one you get. They have all passed safety and efficacy checks and they work.
Wise up!

namesnamesnamesnames · 03/04/2021 11:39

@VaVaGloom

I’ll be having a vaccine as soon as I’m offered it. Don’t forget with Pfizer there was controversy at the start in the Israel studies that was off putting to people having it in the UK.
  • @namesnamesnamesnames My first was AZ, which, like you, I had before all the negativity. I'd rather have a different brand for the second but we must remember this: millions have been vaccinated with AZ and a handful have awful effects. It's really truly terrible what happened to those people but we mustn't let it define the vaccine

I’d rather stick with the brand that has had 2 doses tested together than mix and match yet - they are trialling mixing vaccines now, but there’s even less data on side effects / efficacy of that approach!

I misunderstood, then.
Boringlynormal · 03/04/2021 11:40

If it’s a minuscule risk, I’m not afraid of that. As people have said, every drug has minuscule risks, as does life.

It’s the unknown. I don’t like that they are saying ‘nothing to see here’ when a pattern seems to be emerging. It makes me distrust the scale of the problem or that it’s being properly assessed.

I live in a country where just over a year ago at the start of a global pandemic that’s killed millions, the prime minister spoke publicly and dismissively about shaking hands with Covid patients. Where just over a year ago masks were said to be next to useless and are now mandatory. THIS is why I don’t believe safe means safe and that what we are hearing now is the final truth, or that findings from other countries can be ignored.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 03/04/2021 11:42

But is a pattern emerging? How many people out of the millions vaccinated with AZ would have had a blood clot anyway?

Level75 · 03/04/2021 11:42

You're being paranoid. You're also being selfish.

You've had the jab, you're largely protected. That means you're unlikely to get covid. You're also unlikely to get the blood clots which are very well documented as arising from covid.

Have you considered that your paranoid and irrational post may put some people off the jab? And that those people may go on to develop covid? And that they may get seriously ill or even die?

I bet statistically there's more chance of someone dying as a result of your ill considered woe-is-me post than there is of you developing a blood clot. Well done...

Mistressinthetulips · 03/04/2021 11:51

@Rainbowsandstorms thank you, have printed that off to use if needed Smile Very helpful.

Boringlynormal · 03/04/2021 11:51

But is a pattern emerging? How many people out of the millions vaccinated with AZ would have had a blood clot anyway?

30 cases after AZ. None after Pfizer. 31 cases in Germany, 29 of them women under 55.

Those look like patterns. They might not be but the general tone has changed in a week from ‘no connection’ to ‘probably a connection but very rare’.

VaVaGloom · 03/04/2021 11:52

@Boringlynormal I take your point and agree about the Government making political decisions that weren’t scientifically sound. However, if you listen to the scientists they have always been more cautious and advocated for safer measures & these vaccines have been trialled. That said I did have a tinfoil hat moment when I wondered last week if the supply chain pause for rollouts for first vaccines was in part so they could get more info on risks before rolling it out widely to under 50’s. As I said before I’d rather minimise my risk of getting Covid, or spreading Covid to people who have worse potential outcomes, so will get whichever vaccine is offered to me whenever it is offered.

Rainbowsandstorms · 03/04/2021 11:55

@Mistressinthetulips you’re very welcome. I hope it all goes well. I wish the U.K. government would be a bit more transparent and issue the same information. I feel happier for knowing what I need to look out for.

MunaZaldrizoti · 03/04/2021 11:57

Nope. Glad I got it, can't wait for my 2nd dose

XenoBitch · 03/04/2021 11:58

@Level75

You're being paranoid. You're also being selfish.

You've had the jab, you're largely protected. That means you're unlikely to get covid. You're also unlikely to get the blood clots which are very well documented as arising from covid.

Have you considered that your paranoid and irrational post may put some people off the jab? And that those people may go on to develop covid? And that they may get seriously ill or even die?

I bet statistically there's more chance of someone dying as a result of your ill considered woe-is-me post than there is of you developing a blood clot. Well done...

The OP is very worried... it is not your place to invalidate their anxieties, or to tell them to keep them to themselves. I honestly can't believe you are blaming a future Covid death on the OP.
Tootsey11 · 03/04/2021 12:03

Why is everyone saying it is 30 out of 18.1 million.

Its 30 out of the number of people who are under 55 who have had the vaccine.

As these type of clots have only been seen in the under 55.

Also I wish everyone would stop saying the pill can cause clots, yes it can, but these clots are not your standard dvt clot. They are a rare rare type of brain clot. Not the same at all.

Op, its entirely up to you what you put in your body. You do you.

Stillgoings · 03/04/2021 12:03

You are not in the danger zone OP. I thought that was from day 4-20. So you are ok now. I'm on day 6. I have thought about it a fair bit but all being well I will still have my second dose.

bobbiester · 03/04/2021 12:05

As I posted on the "Probability of dying of COVID vs the vaccine" thread...

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So the reports are that 7 out of 18 million people who received the AZ vaccine in the UK - have subsequently died from blood clots. About 1 in 2.5 million...

Now - putting aside the issue of whether the vaccine caused the clots - to put these numbers in perspective.

In the USA there are about 4 million births per year - and so far this year 4 people have been killed by "gender reveal party" stunts (e.g. from exploding devices).

Assuming everyone having a baby has a gender reveal party - the chance of death is 1 in 1 million. Of course the risk is way greater than that as most people don't have them.

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There are no risk free choices in life - and people need to get risks in perspective.

COVID-19 has already killed approximately 0.23% of the entire UK population. That's about 1 in 425 of the entire UK population - already killed by COVID-19.

Even among the 35–44 year age group - the infection fatality rate for COVID-19 is likely around 1 in 1500.

TimeQuest01 · 03/04/2021 12:06

@ILoveAllRainbowsx
What happens if you have an accident or illness and end up in hospital? How are you going to protect yourself from Covid then? You can't guarantee that you will always be able to stay away from people.

I also wonder if all these people that don’t want the AZ vaccine and for some reason end up in hospital, will tell the doctors not to give them Heparin, now that we know it can cause these rare brain blood clots.

rosie39forever · 03/04/2021 12:06

No, had my first and can't wait for my second to protect my cev dh and dd as well as myself. I've been on the pill for most of my adult life and been pregnant and am now on HRT, the risk of blood clot from these as well as the risk from covid are far greater than from the AZ vaccine.

Tootsey11 · 03/04/2021 12:08

Just to point out there have been clots after the Pfizer jab as well.

Dustyboots · 03/04/2021 12:08

The risk if these blood clots is 30 out of the very small number of under 55 year olds (most likely women) who have been vaccinated so far.

We are willingly offering ourselves up for this. The result of project fear.

TimeQuest01 · 03/04/2021 12:10

@Boringlynormal

30 cases after AZ. None after Pfizer. 31 cases in Germany, 29 of them women under 55.

I think I read on the Guardian yesterday that there have been 2 cases of this rare condition on Pfizer vaccinated people.

pinkearedcow · 03/04/2021 12:11

@Dustyboots

The risk if these blood clots is 30 out of the very small number of under 55 year olds (most likely women) who have been vaccinated so far.

We are willingly offering ourselves up for this. The result of project fear.

Do you have a source for this "very small number" @Dustyboots?

And how do you know the 30 people are most likely women?

Nihonko · 03/04/2021 12:12

@onthetracks

I had my first vaccine 4 weeks ago (AZ) I was really put off my having it and didn’t feel 100% happy, but since I’m clinically vulnerable to Covid and I also look after my elderly grandmother who is Clinically extremely l vulnerable, i thought it was the right thing to do.

Since having the vaccine I read no end of negative reports, side effects, blood clots and now deaths.

I’m terrified that I’m going to develop a blood clot and die.

I know this may sound irrational, which is surprising for me as I’m usually able to rationalise things.
But I can’t help feeling that it’s all been a bit rushed.
We’re all so desperate for normal life that we’ve jumped at the chance to be injected with something that we don’t actually know is safe.

Only now that millions of people are having the vaccine are we being alerted to adverse effects.

I’m really starting to regret that I’ve had the vaccine and I honestly don’t think I will go for my 2nd jab. 😣

No I don't regret getting vaccinated.

You do realise that the number of deaths from blood clotting is minuscule compared to the number vaccinated which is millions i.e. 31 Million vaccinated Vs 7 blood clot deaths in the UK...

FlattestWhite · 03/04/2021 12:15

I don't regret it at all, no.

Far less likely to have any problems from the vaccine than from Covid.

I think people are afraid because they feel that they have more control over whether they get Covid or not - but that's a bit of a false sense of control. Clearly you do have some element of control, but a lot of it will come down to bad luck and lots of other things you can't control. So the risk is still there, however much you think you are mitigating it. Vaccines feel a bit like the opposite - you feel like you have deliberately exposed yourself to it, so the risk feels a lot worse, somehow. But overall, really, your risk of catching and having complications from Covid is likely a lot higher than anything happening from the vaccine.

Governments like Canada who have lots of other vaccines to choose from will end up being cautious because they can, and if there is even the slightly hint that there could be a connection, they can pause the vaccine without it causing a huge problem. It doesn't mean that they think it's unsafe. It's just that if nobody knows if there is even the slightest connection, they can pause the rollout of that one for now.

If people are worried about having the vaccine, they'd actually do better not to say that on social media, because their situation would be best if everyone else had the vaccine but them! I always think it's a bit odd for people to talk about not having vaccines, because that puts other people off, making the world less safe for them.

I think there is also an element of people expecting bad side effects, and then noticing every little odd thing that happens to their bodies, in a way that they wouldn't if they hadn't just had a vaccine. The odd itch on my foot, or a slightly annoying ache, or tired eyes, or whatever I might have just ignored most of the time, suddenly seems bigger and more important if I think about just having had a vaccine. I'm not saying it's the case for most side effects - obviously there are very real and difficult effects - but there is a sort of heightened perception of any little sensation right now, for all of us. Moreover, you really don't hear much online from the millions and millions of people who have had no issue whatsoever from this vaccine, nor from those who had side effects from other vaccines, so all our attention gets directed to this vaccine as being the most problematic, when it's likely more balanced than that.

And it isn't to do with it being rushed. All vaccines and new drugs will eventually be rolled out to millions and millions of people, and very rare reactions will occur - they are only ever trialled on smaller populations, so there is no way that these 1 in several millions risk reactions will all have shown up in the trial stage. It just seems faster this time because we have got to the stage of having given many millions of vaccines much sooner than normal. They weren't tested less than usual, it's just that all that testing was completed in a more condensed period of time. But the rare side effects only show up once a large number of the drugs/vaccines have been used, regardless of the timescale.

superram · 03/04/2021 12:15

People also get the clots just because they are unfortunate. I’ve been listening to a medical podcast as one doctor said they get about 2 of these rare blood clot cases a year, other hospitals are similar numbers. How many of these people would have had the blood clot anyway? Worth the risk (I’ve had my first jab).