Anyone else regretting their choice to get vaccinated?

[onthetracks]

I had my first vaccine 4 weeks ago (AZ)
I was really put off my having it and didn’t feel 100% happy, but since I’m clinically vulnerable to Covid and I also look after my elderly grandmother who is Clinically extremely l vulnerable, i thought it was the right thing to do.

Since having the vaccine I read no end of negative reports, side effects, blood clots and now deaths.

I’m terrified that I’m going to develop a blood clot and die.

I know this may sound irrational, which is surprising for me as I’m usually able to rationalise things.
But I can’t help feeling that it’s all been a bit rushed.
We’re all so desperate for normal life that we’ve jumped at the chance to be injected with something that we don’t actually know is safe.

Only now that millions of people are having the vaccine are we being alerted to adverse effects.

I’m really starting to regret that I’ve had the vaccine and I honestly don’t think I will go for my 2nd jab. 😣

I’m also extremely anxious about the blood clot situation. I wish I hadn’t got the jab, and I don’t think I’ll get the second one

Even though the risks of a blood clot is higher from getting covid?

@WilsonMilson

It's completely up to you whether you have the vaccine. I'm not sure where I said otherwise?

But what you seemed to be suggesting was that if we had completed this "trial period" which you believe to end in 2023 (in my view that's a complete misunderstanding of the position) prior to wide scale roll out of the vaccine, these potential rare side effects would have been identified. That just isn't true.

It wouldn't matter how long the trial went on for, vaccine side effects present very soon after the vaccine. They might be long term but they start quickly. If these blood clot issues are linked to the vaccine they are presenting within the first 3 weeks.

When side effects are very rare (1 in a million type rare) they are only identified when very large numbers of people have received the vaccine. It's numbers not time. This will be the same for every vaccine ever, you just can't have a trial with millions of people in it.

I think it’s too early to start making a decision about not having the second dose.

Mine is due in early June and by then we’ll have so much more information about this possible link.

For starters, we’re already ahead of two weeks ago in terms of detecting and treating this condition.

It will also be interesting to see the numbers coming out of Norway and Germany in the next two months regarding cases (if any) of this condition now that they’ve decided to stop administering this vaccine to the group they consider is most at risk.

I hope they keep being forthcoming with these figures.

I have had a massive blood clot (DVT in my groin)... I went on to also have a pulmonary embolism (blood clot in my lung).

This was caused by the pill dianette.

I was really poorly but lucky.

I've had the astra-Zeneca vaccine.

I don't regret it for one minute. I had the AZ as did my DH, my mum, my brother and most of my friends. We are all perfectly well and can't wait for the next one.

I'm 60 years old and although I'm very fit and healthy I am fully aware that at some point in the next 40 years I'm going to die of something. It might well be a blood clot (thats what my granny died of - 31years ago so we can't blame the vaccine!). It might be cancer or a heart attack or a stroke. However I will do my best to ensure it will be a few years down the line and that it won't be CoVid.

A different slant on stirring up trouble from another anti vaxer.

Oh and the damage to my lungs was WHY I was in group 6...I trust the medical experts,

JVT did a great speech reading out possibly side effects from paracetamol..I suggest you watch it.

@shutterteal

A different slant on stirring up trouble from another anti vaxer.

And yet another dodgy definition of an ‘anti-vaxxer’ when someone wants to shut down a discussion

@onthetracks I'm a front line healthcare worker in the US-my employer helped develop the Moderna vaccine-I took the Pfizer vaccine (2nd jab in January) three weeks later I was struck swiftly with symptoms of Covid at work and sent home-I was tested multiple times all negative results. I've had a severe systemic inflammatory response to the vaccine and am now a Covid long hauler. My heart,thyroid, liver are all affected. My resting heart rate was 120 beats a minute initially. I have a fever most days. I've been evaluated by primary care, cardiology, immunology and endocrinology. My echocardiogram and ekg are normal (just fast) I'm on five cardiac medications to bring my pulse down. I've started Covid rehab this past week. I've been out of work two months and three days. The first five days my temp was 102 Fahrenheit. My doctors believe it's the vaccine. I did what I thought was safe and responsible by taking the vaccine. Idk when I'll be back at the bedside. Please don't let me scare you I post because I want others to realize the risks.

No. OP if you are normally a rational person you need to activate that bit of your brain and stop reading crap on sm. There is no evidence there is a statistically significant chance of getting blood clots - you are at far more risk from getting covid and is everyone around you.

We did not just rush at a solution, this country and the entire world is economically on its knees. Vast resources were pushed into finding this solution, and the AZ vaccine is built on a bank of previous knowledge. There is no reason to think it isn’t safe.

The second jab is essential for long term protection. The vaccine programme is essential to stop a 3rd wave and reduce mutations.

Please don’t be one of the selfish idiots - have your second jab.

OP I agree, I’m in my 30s and had it two weeks ago for health reasons. I had some doubts but pushed on. I’ve not felt right since, like my whole body is exhausted.

I don’t trust what is being reported and seeing other countries suspend AZ for younger women is concerning.

All these people terrified because the vaccine has been 'rushed out,' supposedly. Had anyone stopped to think, maybe this is what's possible if pharmaceutical bodies work together and don't prioritise profit? Maybe it isn't that this is rushed, but that everything else is delayed.

@EmmaOvary

That's a good point actually.

I’m not averse to taking the second jab if it involves a tiny risk. But I will not have it if it involves an unknown risk. For me that means that at the very least we need to know the age and sex of the people who got the condition or died, any common factors ie smoking or the pill and how many people in that same age cohort have been vaccinated. I will not take it on the back of ‘some people have had it, no patterns we can see, nothing to talk about, roll up your sleeve’.

I’ll be utterly delighted to have my second dose (as I initially was to get my first) if I feel this issue is being properly examined and quantified.

For this reason it deeply troubles me when the government backs the jab by saying it’s very effective. We know that. That’s not in question. And it troubles me when false stats are bandied around like 18.1million vaccinated and 30 cases when it may be that the extremely large majority of those 18.1 million weren’t in a group they know is more at risk of this complication.

@EmmaOvary most of the time taken in trials is necessary to measure side effects over a period of time, phase 1 small controlled group x months, phase 2 larger group, phase 3 etc until you have a large enough population to extrapolate from and then analysis of the data. It’s necessarily a time consuming process.

I'm going to shout this out

NO VACCINE OR MEDICATION IS 100% RISK FREE

A miniscule percentage of people have had extremely negative reactions to the vaccine. So does it make it right to scaremonger everyne else into not having it.

A depressing number of posters just don't seem to understand the statistics.

Using the same logic maybe we should stop eating peanuts, shellfish, strawberries, dairy products, eggs etc in case someone somewhere gets an allergic reaction?

@cashoncollection

OP I agree, I’m in my 30s and had it two weeks ago for health reasons. I had some doubts but pushed on. I’ve not felt right since, like my whole body is exhausted.

I don’t trust what is being reported and seeing other countries suspend AZ for younger women is concerning.

Yes I had mine two weeks ago and I feel the same. I don’t want the second one.

@partyatthepalace I don’t think it’s fair to start calling people selfish idiots for questioning taking the second vaccination. Anyone who has had the first is clearly pro vaccination and has taken it to keep them and others safe. I hate all this just take the vaccination it’s safe blanket response. We are talking about a vaccination where a number of countries have paused its rollout due to concerns while they investigate. It is not unreasonable to want more information before having a second dose. It’s not being anti vax to want more safety data regarding a new vaccination where the side effects are still being established and concerns have been raised. I’m not due my second dose for 11 weeks and I will assess the data closer to the time and use this to make an informed choice just as I would with any other risk I take in life but please don’t demonise people who are concerned.

@Vickles20

Jeez. You’re the one who’s paranoid. And your post is inciting paranoia. End of. Just interesting that a number of these type of anti-vax posts over the past few weeks (A-Z haters) are started by fist time posters with no history of ever posting before on mumsnet. Just very interesting. No paranoia triggering here thank you. One very happy and grateful A-Z vaccinated human

@Vickles20

I’ve had the vaccine. How can that make me an anti vaxer?

I’m interested to hear this!

Nope.

I think you're more likely to get a blood clot from being on a long haul flight.

The health risks from catching Coronavirus are far more than having a vaccination (especially if you've already had the first jab without anything other than the normal side effects).

You don't want it? Good. There's plenty of people who do! Who'll take your dose.

For me that means that at the very least we need to know the age and sex of the people who got the condition or died, any common factors ie smoking or the pill and how many people in that same age cohort have been vaccinated. I will not take it on the back of ‘some people have had it, no patterns we can see, nothing to talk about, roll up your sleeve’

I don't think information will be made public at the moment @Boringlynormal because of the small numbers of people involved - that sort of detail could be identifying.

Hell no! I'm much more worried about getting long Covid.

I don’t think it’s fair to start calling people selfish idiots for questioning taking the second vaccination

Yeah, I agreed with that poster until she used the s word.

"Selfish", like 'non-essential', is one of those words which has developed whole new meanings over the past year.