mass mask-free shopping trip

[oldegg123]

Even though I don't agree with it, I get the rationale of sneakily breaking lockdown to see family/friends and opening businesses when it's still illegal.

This on the other hand is just such moronic unnecessary behaviour?!

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[quote oldegg123]Even though I don't agree with it, I get the rationale of sneakily breaking lockdown to see family/friends and opening businesses when it's still illegal.

This on the other hand is just such moronic unnecessary behaviour?!

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What a bunch of weirdos and how cringe? Who even has time for this shit? Looking at them, they look like parents and grandparents, lovely role models for their youngsters
It’s obvious they are just after some attention, how hard is it to just wear a mask and follow scientific advice (obviously some have genuine exceptions)? Bet when half of those people need to go into hospital or see their GP, they don’t think twice about wearing a mask then just so they can be seen by the very health care professionals that wearing masks is trying to help.

People like this make life much harder for those who are genuinely exempt. The abuse exempt people receive is entirely because they're lumped in with anti-maskers - people see no mask and immediately assume selfish idiot.

They caught it from someone. And that someone wasn't wearing a mask

I agree that if you can wear a mask, you absolutely should. But this comment is a bit ridiculous - you can't know where you caught covid, who from, or whether that person was wearing a mask or not. Or if they were wearing one, if they were doing so correctly (not re-using a disposable one, not touching it, not washing their hands before/after putting it on, etc). Can you honestly say that everyone wearing masks does so correctly, all the time? In any case, wearing one is in known to reduce transmission but not halt it entirely. Again, it's misinformation like this which stigmatises exempt people.

@notrub

The answer is simple - DON'T leave dealing with people like this to the police - if you know who they are, ACT. Plenty of ways to let people know they aren't welcome in a neighborhood.

Nothing like a bit of vigilante justice, eh.

What a time to be alive.

I volunteer in a charity shop and head office has stated that when we reopen on the 12th April we must wear masks (and rightly so)and we must still limit numbers entering our shop but we can not make customers wear masks and we can not refuse entry to people refusing to wear one. 100% of the volunteers are over 50 and many like me are also carers and do a couple of days or hours each week for despite and a wish to help a worthy charity. Several volunteers have already withdrawn their help and if our shop loses any more then the shop may close.

We are all incredibly shocked by this as part of keeping covid under control is mask wearing as even with vaccination covid is still transmissible. I do not wish to take covid home and give it to the person that I care for because some knob doesn't believe in covid/masks/vaccinations etc.

My god what an absolute embarrassment. A bunch of middle-aged people filming themselves in Tesco as if they're Rosa fucking Parks. Rebels without a clue. What utter wankers.

Sorry that should read respite not despite.

And no, I'm not making & shaming the charity but it is a huge national one.

naming & shaming
Bloody predictive text!

There was a woman without a mask in the aldi I use yesterday - which tells you how unusual it is. Ok, but get a shift on with the shopping, keep your distance and for the love of God, stop bloody jabbering to people.

@TheVampiresWife

People like this make life much harder for those who are genuinely exempt. The abuse exempt people receive is entirely because they're lumped in with anti-maskers - people see no mask and immediately assume selfish idiot.

They caught it from someone. And that someone wasn't wearing a mask

I agree that if you can wear a mask, you absolutely should. But this comment is a bit ridiculous - you can't know where you caught covid, who from, or whether that person was wearing a mask or not. Or if they were wearing one, if they were doing so correctly (not re-using a disposable one, not touching it, not washing their hands before/after putting it on, etc). Can you honestly say that everyone wearing masks does so correctly, all the time? In any case, wearing one is in known to reduce transmission but not halt it entirely. Again, it's misinformation like this which stigmatises exempt people.

if they were doing so correctly (not re-using a disposable one, not touching it, not washing their hands before/after putting it on, etc). Can you honestly say that everyone wearing masks does so correctly, all the time?

You don't need to - that's the whole f-ing point and if you'd listened to ANY of the scientists explaining why masks were useful, you'd understand that. But no - you got it into your head that you didn't want to wear a mask so now we have to listen to your idiotic defence of other selfish dumbasses.

[quote oldegg123]Even though I don't agree with it, I get the rationale of sneakily breaking lockdown to see family/friends and opening businesses when it's still illegal.

This on the other hand is just such moronic unnecessary behaviour?!

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Good for them. Wish I could join them. Masks make not a jot of difference, they are just a placebo. The sooner people get back to minding their own business the better.

@notrub so people who can't wear masks because of disability/health conditions are 'selfish dumbasses' who have 'got it into their heads that they don't want to wear masks'. Lovely.

I agree with mask wearing and I have not defended the idiots in the video - just the opposite. I think that if you're able to wear one, you should, absolutely. And I'm incredibly grateful to all those who can and do. But I also believe that those who are genuinely exempt should not be vilified, threatened, judged or abused.

Your vitriol towards those who cannot wear face coverings is worrying and a bit frightening, actually. I hope you keep your views to yourself when you encounter someone unable to wear a mask in public - those living with disability and health conditions have enough to deal with without abuse from people like you.

So a bunch of people, who are probably working from home, decide to make it more unsafe for those who have no choice but to go out to work? Such rebels! Freedom fighters! Wow! So brave! I hope the store told the workers they didn’t have to serve them unless they felt comfortably doing so. What kind of person does this to others who might desperately need the job and can’t tell them to get lost?

They are being selfish and their behaviour is bullying.

Jesus there are some stupid people & so many of them on MN.

Of course masks help to prevent transmission of virus.

There are a lot of diagrams/videos out there if you struggle with science/common sense.

Morons

@Lostinacloud - maybe look at the Israel rollout & fallout and read up on pandemic mutations

@buffyp
Are you always this ignorant or are you genuinely a bit dim?
Have you actually tried to find recent studies about how there is evidence that shows masks DO work in helping to reduce covid transmission in the mask wearer and others around them.
Like a PP has already said, if that’s too difficult for you to do, then there are plenty of videos and colourful pictures/diagram to help explain it for you.

Exactly. Also, what I genuinely don’t understand is what they think exposing supermarket workers and other shoppers to their germs is going to achieve? What have they done to deserve this? Even if they haven’t exposed them to covid, the fact that they may have made some of them feel unsafe is bullying and selfish. Those workers and shoppers haven’t had a say in determining what the government and scientists have put in place.

@buffyp

Good for them. Wish I could join them. Masks make not a jot of difference, they are just a placebo. The sooner people get back to minding their own business the better.

I'm assuming you're not an epidemiologist or a clinician? Such a ridiculous statement to make without any evidence to back it up.

Masks are not bulletproof, but the more people who wear them, the lower the concentration of viral particles in the surrounding environment. This means a lower chance of others being infected, and if there are, they've been exposed to a lower viral load which is associated with better clinical outcomes.

Given that for the average person, wearing a mask in a shop is minor inconvenience, it is ridiculously selfish not to.

Very childish behaviour, and I say that as someone who believes that masks do very little to prevent transmission and should only be used in crowded areas where you are having a conversation. However, it's the rule and for now, I will stick with wearing one.

Belief isn't needed if there are facts. Unfortunately for the fuckwit believers on here, the facts confirm that you are wrong. and very, very stupid. Wear a mask or shop online.

[quote oldegg123]@buffyp

Good for them. Wish I could join them. Masks make not a jot of difference, they are just a placebo. The sooner people get back to minding their own business the better.

I'm assuming you're not an epidemiologist or a clinician? Such a ridiculous statement to make without any evidence to back it up.

Masks are not bulletproof, but the more people who wear them, the lower the concentration of viral particles in the surrounding environment. This means a lower chance of others being infected, and if there are, they've been exposed to a lower viral load which is associated with better clinical outcomes.

Given that for the average person, wearing a mask in a shop is minor inconvenience, it is ridiculously selfish not to.[/quote]
This.
There seems to be a correlation between people who want no restrictions behaving in a way that causes longer restrictions. Moronic.

What if those dreadful unmasked people were actually healthy???!!!! God forbid. Seriously. Get a grip!!!! Death is not stalking people at every move.

@loulouljh

What if those dreadful unmasked people were actually healthy???!!!! God forbid. Seriously. Get a grip!!!! Death is not stalking people at every move.

I'm sure they all did a test to make sure...nope nope nope no point in case they got a false positive. Idiots.

@loulouljh

What if those dreadful unmasked people were actually healthy???!!!! God forbid. Seriously. Get a grip!!!! Death is not stalking people at every move.

Let's compare the two scenarios

Wearing a mask unnecessarily because you aren't infected with coronavirus --> minor inconvenience to you, benefits of reassuring individuals around you such as workers and vulnerable.

Not wearing a mask when you are infected with coronavirus > increased viral particles in the surrounding environment > increased risk of people being infected & increased risk of individuals exposed to high viral load --> new chains of infection started, potentially resulting in hospitalisation, long-term complications and increased mutation rate of virus.

Tell that to the 170,000 bereaved families
They caught it from someone. And that someone wasn't wearing a mask

FFS...I wish people would quit with the "tell that to the bereaved families" shit....how about you DON'T tell us. We don't need telling anything thank you because guess what? We already know how we feel. Oh and fwiw mum caught it during a hospital stay, where the staff all wore masks.