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Holidays abroad are illegal from Monday

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Dugee · 22/03/2021 22:10

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9389921/Ban-leaving-UK-amid-new-coronavirus-laws-force-week.html

Along with any other unnecessary travel abroad.

OP posts:
Hawse · 23/03/2021 08:25

[quote rookiemere]@Hawse I'm not fully up on this, but does that mean you're barred from leaving even if you don't intend to come back ? If that's the case that does seem wrong.[/quote]
So I actually asked my MP about this, as I was curious as to what the rules. Apparently, if re-patriating to your country of origin, then you will be allowed to leave. If you have a visa or indefinite leave to remain and plan on returning to the UK - say if you have a job here or property here or whatnot - then it would be classified as illegal (unless of course, it was in the permitted activities, like a funeral). So visiting a sick and elderly relative is illegal, but visiting a confirmed dying relative is not illegal... Still think it's insanity... again - visiting relatives is not the same as going to Ibiza on holiday with the mates.

RampantIvy · 23/03/2021 08:29

Those of you who are complaining about our rights being eroded, please could you let the rest of us know what your solutions are to this mess we are in. Violent riots are the answer.

PersimmonTree · 23/03/2021 08:30

@ImAlrightThanx

We'll be able to holiday abroad soon enough. Even if it wasn't illegal, most places wouldn't let us in anyway. I'm far more worried about the police powers bill in regards to our basic rights then a temporary travel ban.
Yes. Unfortunately most of the rest of the country are not worried about that, nor even aware that they need to be.
jacks11 · 23/03/2021 08:32

Foreign holidays are not essential. I just do not understand the obsession with them right now- not getting a holiday is disappointing, perhaps, but no more than that. People who need to go for work, education or on compassionate grounds may still do so. These are the only reasons people need to go. For everyone else it’s a want, not a necessity. All the whining about it seems so pathetic, tbh. There are bigger things to worry about.

I don’t view it as a sippery slope- it’s a way to try and stop further problems. Look at NZ- they stopped travel pretty quickly and continue to do so. They are in a much better place than us right now, though the closed borders is only part of the reason why that is the case. But it did help. And their lives are much less restricted than ours.

Right now, travel abroad may lead to the importation of new variant(s). The implications of that could be disastrous- economically, in terms of our children’s education, never mind the impact on all of us and the effect of yet more people unwell and/or dying. Do you really want yet another spike in cases? Or is a summer holiday abroad more important? The vaccines we are giving are less effective against the South African variant currently in Europe. I, for one, don’t want the vaccine programme to be wasted/hindered, just as it’s starting to get to the level of vaccination which it can start to hinder the spread.

We also know that last year the majority of people told to quarantine at home from a foreign holiday on their return did not do so. I understand why some people might struggle to quarantine BUT if you went abroad last year you knew there was a risk of the situation changing suddenly and that you may need to quarantine on your return and so should have factored that in. If you could not quarantine then you should not have gone. It was one of quite a few reasons we did not go abroad last summer even though we could do so.

All of this makes it necessary for foreign travel to be controlled.

Mummyoflittledragon · 23/03/2021 08:33

@Hardcoresoftie

The more you travel the more you will notice many communities and countries that are back to normal. Drinking coffees outdoors, visiting each others houses, going clubbing. Then the penny will drop that this government is no question lying to us and will only set us free when it becomes inconvenient for them not too.
This is a bonkers view. Had the government implemented the travel ban from the start and in February 2020, many of the deaths would have been spared. Had the government done taken the virus seriously from the start instead of letting the skiers, amongst others, go to Italy and return to spread the virus with abandon, it is likely we would be out and about enjoying coffee, visiting each other’s houses and maybe going clubbing.

If anything, the government is quite the reverse from your comment. Locking us up is an absolute last resort as it is very libertarian.

Catwoman123 · 23/03/2021 08:34

I thought it was already illegal despite the fact that I know about a dozen people who have been abroad these past 3 months.
Borders should've been shut ages ago tbh. It seems a bit pointless now

frozendaisy · 23/03/2021 08:35

Hopefully this is to help protect the unvaccinated 18-49 he olds.

The vaccines work enough against variants to stop most hospitalisation. Think it is to stop the "I'm alright jack screw everyone else now" crew going abroad and bringing back another new variant.

It won't be forever.

We need a holiday somewhere different as much as the next family.

PersimmonTree · 23/03/2021 08:35

@RampantIvy

Those of you who are complaining about our rights being eroded, please could you let the rest of us know what your solutions are to this mess we are in. Violent riots are the answer.
If people would wake up and start taking responsibility for the liars they vote for, start asking questions and start realising that if you give them an inch they'll take a mile, that'd be the first step.

The police powers bill essentially means that if Priti Patel or her successors don't like you, you cannot protest about it. You will be shut down. You must give in.

Why would you want to allow that?

UsedUpUsername · 23/03/2021 08:36

@frozendaisy

Hopefully this is to help protect the unvaccinated 18-49 he olds.

The vaccines work enough against variants to stop most hospitalisation. Think it is to stop the "I'm alright jack screw everyone else now" crew going abroad and bringing back another new variant.

It won't be forever.

We need a holiday somewhere different as much as the next family.

Lol that’s what they said one year ago 🤡 never seen the goalposts moved so frequently without any ounce of shame
LemonRoses · 23/03/2021 08:37

PersimmonTree Exactly.

JSL52 · 23/03/2021 08:41

@IloveJKRowling

Good, holidays abroad aren't essential in any universe. There is a long list of exceptions of essential travel (including funerals, childcare and many other legitimate reasons to travel).

When so many people are dying it seems a bit much that some people get to spread covid around just so they can get a beach holiday.

Or they want to go abroad because they have worked frontline the whole year and haven't seen their partner for months ???? Not everyone going abroad is going to lie on a beach actually.
Livelovebehappy · 23/03/2021 08:42

Not surprised at all. If some people are stressing because they will miss out on a two week holiday in the sun this year, then they need to give their head a wobble. Having strict rules in place short term will let us get back to normal long term. The EU have screwed up and not got a fit for purpose vaccine process set up. There’s different variants popping up all over the place. Why risk bringing something back into the country just for the sake of a holiday?

restrainingorder · 23/03/2021 08:43

“What does the government have to gain by preventing people going on holidays abroad and keeping restrictions in place? The economy is tanked, encouraging people back to work, booking flights, out for lunches and drinks are what's needed to get things back on track. The government reluctance isn't some big conspiracy, it's because we're in the midst of pandemic which sadly won't adhere to human timescales no matter how fed up people are. ‘

Excellent point. Same thing with climate change - very few people benefit from climate change mitigation (I know as my pension is invested in oil :()

Puppylucky · 23/03/2021 08:44

Interesting article in the Times today regarding Boris Johnson and his supposed libertarian tendencies, that a lot of posters here keep citing as a reason why restrictions will end. Essentially, the article argues that Johnson has no firm commitment to anything other than brand Boris and is becoming increasingly authoritarian in response to what he sees as voter preferences - especially red wall voters. This approach to continued restrictions won't be lifted unless and until he senses real voter unease.

FortunesFave · 23/03/2021 08:46

@restrainingorder

“What does the government have to gain by preventing people going on holidays abroad and keeping restrictions in place? The economy is tanked, encouraging people back to work, booking flights, out for lunches and drinks are what's needed to get things back on track. The government reluctance isn't some big conspiracy, it's because we're in the midst of pandemic which sadly won't adhere to human timescales no matter how fed up people are. ‘

Excellent point. Same thing with climate change - very few people benefit from climate change mitigation (I know as my pension is invested in oil :()

The British people spend a LOT on going abroad for holidays. Over the period from 2011 to 2019. The total amount spent by UK holidaymakers on visits abroad came to around 43.4 billion British pounds in 2019.

Some of that would go into the British economy if people had to holiday there.

Lastfreakinglegs · 23/03/2021 08:47

Puppylucky do you have a link?

theheartofthematter · 23/03/2021 08:47

What pisses me off is the fact that all the insta 'famous' people can still Sean off to Dubai etc and claim its work

C8H10N4O2 · 23/03/2021 08:47

I think you'll find that the Conservatives are driven by their right wing of ultra libertarian nutcases like Jacob Rees Mogg which led to things like leaving the EU

My point was that the party includes both. JRM is a good example of one who wants "liberty" from "red tape" when it comes to business practice, human rights and tenants rights but is happily implementing badly drafted law and guidelines removing the rights of ordinary people (including representation in Parliament).

It was JRM who tried to shut down Parliament and has consistently tried to bypass any accountability for legislation.

C8H10N4O2 · 23/03/2021 08:50

So visiting a sick and elderly relative is illegal, but visiting a confirmed dying relative is not illegal... Still think it's insanity... again - visiting relatives is not the same as going to Ibiza on holiday with the mates

Its worse than that. If you own a holiday home abroad then visiting it is one of the exemptions. So visiting a sick relative you haven't seen in two years - not allowed. Swanning off to your holiday villa in Greece - allowed.

WouldBeGood · 23/03/2021 08:51

Fucking insane. It’s like the Soviet Union and I want to defect

MarshaBradyo · 23/03/2021 08:51

@Catwoman123

I thought it was already illegal despite the fact that I know about a dozen people who have been abroad these past 3 months. Borders should've been shut ages ago tbh. It seems a bit pointless now
So did I wasn’t there that hoo ha over max sentence a while back
CaptainMyCaptain · 23/03/2021 08:53

@Stratfordplace

When is someone going to address the deaths through lack of cancer care and screening. It’s truly appalling.
Do you think cancer sufferers would have been better off if hospitals had been overwhelmed with covid patients?

I agree there has been slowing down in some services but others like MRI (where DH works) have been working throughout. Delays have been caused by extra urgent patients with covid and the necessity for deep cleaning but that doesn't mean people have been forgotten.

AnotherEmma · 23/03/2021 08:54

@Hawse

I am desperately missing my family. My entire family lives abroad. I haven't seen them in close to 2 years. They have not met their first grandchild. I wasn't able to see my dad when he was in hospital twice. I wasn't able to be there for my sister during a crisis. So please don't tell me that these rules are reasonable. I don't want a holiday. I want a sensible pathway for those of us with legitimate reasons to be able to leave the country. I am not even a citizen of the UK FFS. I am vaccinated too. It's insanity that I am barred from leaving.
I agree it's insane and I'm sorry you haven't been able to see your family for all this time Flowers
Tal45 · 23/03/2021 08:54

We should have locked down properly like NZ a year ago, it doesn't make any difference how close or far away other countries are if you don't let people out/in.

As an aside the violent riots make me agree even with the bill. Oh dear we can no longer damage property and make a huge racket about it disturbing all the residents and think we can get away with it -and have to have a start and finish time so it can be properly policed. How awful to take away our rights to riot and smash stuff up and block roads that emergency vehicles may need to use. Pathetic.

FlossieTeacakesFurCoat18 · 23/03/2021 08:56

Does anyone else think the is because the government want to keep money circulating in the UK only? When we're allowed out people are going to be itching to spend on nights out, restaurants, spas, sports... Better here than propping up the economy anywhere else?

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