Told to isolate - can i collect children from school?

[petitdonkey]

Apologies if this has been done! I’ve just received a notification to isolate for eight days (I went to the supermarket on Saturday and was at work- no other contact!) - my children are at school, perhaps a stupid question but am I allowed to drive to pick up and drop off this week?? I have just emailed work who I guess won’t be thrilled...

What a PITA!!!

The App can have unfortunate consequences. My DD got Covid, but my App didn't pick it up. My neighbours however did get asked to isolate - they were obviously closer to her for longer because their bedroom backs on to my DDs! They have been isolating throughout as they are elderly so were shocked to be told that they had been in contact with someone with Covid.

So my school has responded I am paraphrasing here as I’m not sure the nurse would want to be quoted but basically said that yes the app is optional but as I have signed up to it I have a duty to follow the advice otherwise it would be negligent of me to go into school. Taking the children to school is fine as long as I make no contact with anyone.

Thank you to all that contributed- for those that posted along the lines of ‘how can you not know this?’ I think this thread has shown that there is still a huge amount of scope for interpretation. I will not be walking with friends or going into shops but nor will I be asking other people to drive my children therefore potentially increasing their risk.

Also a reminder of what most of us use mumsnet for- a place to ask those seemingly stupid questions and discuss nuance. Not start a bunfight or shout at people for being idiots!

Thanks all

@Expectingsomethingwonderful

The App can have unfortunate consequences. My DD got Covid, but my App didn't pick it up. My neighbours however did get asked to isolate - they were obviously closer to her for longer because their bedroom backs on to my DDs! They have been isolating throughout as they are elderly so were shocked to be told that they had been in contact with someone with Covid.

But they hadn’t been in contact! A wall had been between them

Pleased that your school understands that you taking the kids to school is reasonable. I think other than a few people on here almost anyone else would agree.

@Sparklingbrook

I also think the NHS app is not fit for purpose.

This is why I wouldn't have the app.

But they hadn’t been in contact! A wall had been between them

Exactly, but the phones were two metres or less away from each other. this is also a problem when you use hot lockers at work.
Also the fifteen minutes doesn't have to be all in one go apparently.

Why are people still using this useless app! If you have only been in the supermarket with a mask on you will not be a contact of someone and of cause you can take your children to school and stay in the car what difference is being in a car to being in your house?

Asking questions like this on here you are bound to get nonsensical answers from people who would blindly follow whatever rule was put out there regardless of whether it makes any sense at all. The idea of isolation is that you don’t come into contact with anyone else which you won’t in your own car!
I honestly think if Boris said you can only hop around the supermarket now and not walk some mumsnetters would be bobbing around Tesco on one leg!!

The government have gone strangely quiet about the App. I still have it on my phone but turned the scanning off when I went to the doctors and never put it back on.

Some of the replies on this thread are just so awful. Is there actually any need to be SO rude?!!
If you're that bothered about the topic then do yourself a favour and don't open it, don't reply and if you do feel the need to rely don't bother replying sending the same answer as five people before you!!
Jeeeessssssus.

As many said the app isn’t always correct

If track and trace hasn’t called you then no need to self isolate

School has to now follow procedure incase .......

You test twice weekly anyway

Take kids to school. Wait in car

Delete app

@Sparklingbrook

The government have gone strangely quiet about the App. I still have it on my phone but turned the scanning off when I went to the doctors and never put it back on.

Yes. They know it’s not fit for purpose.

I deleted the app months ago. It just wasn't reliable enough for me to be prepared to believe what it told me. I checked into places when asked, and obviously,
I'd abide by track and trace. But the proximity bit of the app is, and always has been, unreliable.

I'm glad you're taking them and they don't have to miss school, OP.

Why are you using the app, surely that is only to get into places and they are all shut now, you don't need the app in a supermarket.

@RedRiverShore

Why are you using the app, surely that is only to get into places and they are all shut now, you don't need the app in a supermarket.

The instructions are to have the app and have it scanning all the time (except for a handful of places and situations). Nothing to do with getting into places, you could have been at the supermarket/garage/Home Bargains (or any other retail that's open). Or at work to be in contact with someone.

I've seen so many posts where one sibling has had to isolate and another hasn't. Most posters say to take the isolating sibling in a car with you on school run rather than leave at home and drop other kid off at gate. However, how is it different for an isolating mum dropping kid off and not leaving car? In addition, if poster is harbouring any symptoms, then asking another parent to take the kids is a bit shit too! Keeping kids off isolating is also rubbish. Common sense would surely be to just drive them?!!

@Moonstone1234

It constantly surprises me that many people have no one in the world to help them out, no partner, no family, no friends, no friendly neighbours, dont want to pay out for a taxi etc.

I get the impression they just want to do what they like and when people ask them if they could ask a friend they say they dont have any.

I have plenty of friends. They all work like me!

If people just took a step back for a second they'd realise not everyone knows school parents numbers ( I knew none), not everyone has family nearby (and my mums who is close is having chemo so she couldn't do it) and some people cannot just get a taxi as cannot afford it.

I would do what I could but there is absolutely no way if ds was school age right now I'd have a way of getting him home.

Even now he's at college I'd be stuck as no one takes their children and ds is disabled.

But I'm perfectly able to realise me in my own car is a risk to no other person!

This thread is utterly bonkers!

Option 1)
the OP drives her DC to school and comes into contact with NOBODY other than her DC who already live with her and therefore she represents quite literally, a risk no nobody else.

Option 2)
DC should get a lift from another parent, a taxi or bus thus increasing the number of contacts and therefore potential infections.

MN - YOU MUST DO OPTION 2 BECAUSE THE ROOLZ!!!

🤦🏽‍♀️

@VooveyClickwot

This thread is utterly bonkers!

Option 1)
the OP drives her DC to school and comes into contact with NOBODY other than her DC who already live with her and therefore she represents quite literally, a risk no nobody else.

Option 2)
DC should get a lift from another parent, a taxi or bus thus increasing the number of contacts and therefore potential infections.

MN - YOU MUST DO OPTION 2 BECAUSE THE ROOLZ!!!

🤦🏽‍♀️

Isn't it mad?

Even people who are symptomatic are allowed to drive (walk, even) to testing stations. If there was a significant risk to that, it wouldn't be allowed. OP isn't symptomatic, AND she's testing herself at home, AND she won't get out of her car or even wind the window down. She's pretty much hermetically sealed inside it.

@saraclara I'm glad it's not just me

Glad you got it sorted. I'm still amazed that this is your first isolation!

I deleted the app for that reason. Utter nonsense.

@VooveyClickwot
Exactly!!!!

A taxi and friend are an even worse option. More opportunities to pick up an airborne virus.
I'd drive them. And this is coming from someone who still won't be going back to restaurants or the gym this summer as I think it's too risky.

@Delatron

This is Mumsnet at its best. So far better that the teenagers to get on public transport or get a lift with someone else (really??). So it’s better that they get in a friend’s car in close contact with them than the Mum stepping out of the house, getting in the car, driving them. Not leaving the car. The Mum would not come in to contact with anyone else.

That’s far more risky than public transport and shared lifts? We’ve lost the ability to use any common sense.

When you say risky to use public transport or a lift, do you mean risky for the people who may come into contact with the OP children or risky for the OP children as they could potentially catch the virus on the bus? If it’s the former, how can that be an unacceptable risk but sitting in a classroom with 30 people and a teacher not be a greater risk?!

If they’re a potential risk to the people on public transport or someone in a car, how are they not a risk to their classmates and teachers? Why is it not ok for them to potentially infect people on a bus but it is ok for them to potentially infect people at school. That makes no sense!