Will lots just say 'stuff it' come the 23rd?

[JuneSummer]

It'll soon be a year since lockdown was first called and me and DH have been watching lots of TV coverage over the last few days. It's just dawned on us this week that we have now not seen our parents for a year, the DC haven't hugged their grandparents, we haven't been for any days out as a family, DC1 hasn't had a single uni class in person. The list goes on.

DH and I are now quickly coming to the conclusion that we just cannot and will not go on living like this any longer as a family. Particularly when there seems to be no end in sight if you listen to people like Chris Whitty and Christina Pagel (who was wanting masks and social distancing for the foreseeable future last night on the news).

Both sets of parents are in their mid 60s and have been vaccinated. We are now strongly minded to visit both at the beginning of April and allow them to see their DGC.

I suspect we will not be alone. Will lots of people simply say 'no more' upon realising they've spent a year of their lives not living?

@StylishMummy

Absolutely understand the frustration everyone has towards 'rule breakers', but only on Mumsnet do the vast majority claim to be playing by the rules.

I won't be held in this ridiculous limbo anymore and am living my life. I'm not killing granny, or my parents, or anyone else for that matter. What are you all going to flap about in June when restrictions are mostly done away with?

If too many people breach the rules, then restrictions won't be "mostly done away with" in June. All it needs is numbers to start rising again and the easing will be put on hold.

As others have said, we are so near the end of the worst of the restrictions - to give that up now and extend them is stupid.

I am weary of granny killers, you need to work on covid ward, etc too.
The lockdown lovers are just panicking because they know it's going to end

@user1497207191 I literally don't care anymore, if they're still that vulnerable even after the first vaccine then they can shield at home. I'm going going about my day as normal.

@StylishMummy

We've said 'fuck it' since all our parents and grandparents have been vaccinated. I'm CEV and have had 1st vaccinate. We're hosting 4 households for Easter weekend in the house, cannot wait to have the family back together. DC are going to grandparents for sleepovers, we're having friends round and meeting friends and family for walks and at the park. I genuinely don't know a single person who's now following 'the rules'.

I'm so pleased I'm busting a gut at work as a HCA on a very busy GP practice, doing many extra hours in a vaccine clinic and even more extra hours for the pulse oximetey at home.service while not breaking the fucking rules so you can! I havent see my parents for months as mum is cev, i didnt say goodbye last month to a family member emigrating, i havent seen my eldest since boxing day, you can fuck right off with your 4 households mixing. why am I even bothering.....

[quote mn81987]@user1497207191 I literally don't care anymore, if they're still that vulnerable even after the first vaccine then they can shield at home. I'm going going about my day as normal. [/quote]
Gosh aren't you the peachiest peach in the fruit bowl.

And we don’t have an end date in sight because people are fucking about with the rules. Take some ownership.

@Ocsetldil well that isn’t true. We do have an end date and it’s 21st June!

Yes actually I am.
I feel sorry for all of you still sucked into the lockdown game. I'm just being honest, and there's lots of people on this post that agree with me clearly.

@Nothingoriginalhere

It's hard to ignore, but I do think most people are trying to do the right thing, even if Mumsnet sometimes makes it feel like the world is over run with arseholes.

I feel sorry for all of you still sucked into the lockdown game

You don't have to feel sorry for me @mn81987, shielding a medically vulnerable child for a year, doesn't feel like much of a game, but despite it being a long hard year, we're doing ok, and ds is well, so that's good.

Hope you and yours are doing ok too.

@Dongdingdong

And we don’t have an end date in sight because people are fucking about with the rules. Take some ownership.

@Ocsetldil well that isn’t true. We do have an end date and it’s 21st June!

In Scotland we have no end date.

Let’s be honest there is no real end date south of the border either...it’s a provisional date which will only be honoured in the event of certain criteria being met.

@MazekeenSmith- true... fingers crossed that it does reduce it and prevent transmission! That would be brilliant... but if it doesn’t and we’re just spreading variants - I do not want to be facing lockdown next March (or long waiting lists for medical care, schools being out again , etc. It’s all well and good complaining about it and seeing people - but that’s not going to make the wait for an operation any shorter or make it much easier if they close schools again... )

I do appreciate the arguments around mental health, but I wonder how many people are aware of the impact this has on mental health services and how it’s preventing us doing our work with those with significant vulnerabilities ...)

On the 29th March you will be able to mix 2 households outside including private gardens. The only problem is needed the loo!

My family are too far away to see and everything's closed. So, I kind of have to follow the rules bc there's no option not to.

Also I'm 25 so doubt I'll get a test before June

We are following the rules but seeing more and more selfish ones that aren’t. My children can understand the need to protect others better than some adults it would seem.

I don’t want others ill or the nhs overwhelmed. Plus things like cancer treatments etc need to be able to be done.

I can see the June date being moved due to non compliance on top of allowed mixing and the virus having chance to spread.

Well I don’t think I’m in the minority. I’ve abided by the rules. For me the numbers are simple. More people vaccinated plus 3 weeks = us actually having a chance of getting lives back in full by June. I don’t know anyone in my immediate circle flouting the rules at all.

My best friend has an urgent referral for a gynae matter that needs seeing to. End of May is the first appointment they have. Because of the backlog due to covid. We need hospitals to return to full capacity and start working through their backlog.

Fgs. Sit your asses at home and let the really critical sector (the NHS) get back on its feet

Because if you don’t? The double and triple whammy will again be the most vulnerable. Because a portion of society will skip these backlogs/ queues and be treated privately.

@Dongdingdong

And we don’t have an end date in sight because people are fucking about with the rules. Take some ownership.

@Ocsetldil well that isn’t true. We do have an end date and it’s 21st June!

Unless Whitty puts his oar in

[quote mn81987]@user1497207191 I literally don't care anymore, if they're still that vulnerable even after the first vaccine then they can shield at home. I'm going going about my day as normal. [/quote]
Wow.

That's not actually possible for a lot of people though.... you do understand that right? I'm vulnerable and unvaccinated due to pregnancy yet have a teacher DH and DC in school... so I cannot totally shield can I? I'm relying on other families who send their kids to school abiding by the rules so that Dc and DH have less risk of catching it and sending it home to me. Mine isn't an uncommon case... there are thousands of CeV children unable to obtain a vaccine too. They also can't just stay at home and miss their education can they?

[quote MrsHerculePoirot]@Chickenriceandpeas I’m a secondary teacher so crammed into small classrooms with 30 different people for a hour, six times a day. So my chances of catching it are not as minuscule as you seem to think.

If the risk to everyone is so small why did the NHS get overwhelmed earlier this year?[/quote]
the risk of that happening again is totally different considering the MILLIONS of vaccinations that have happened since then.

@Dongdingdong

And we don’t have an end date in sight because people are fucking about with the rules. Take some ownership.

@Ocsetldil well that isn’t true. We do have an end date and it’s 21st June!

That is a "not before" date and is contingent on the data and satisfaction of the four conditions. Those who say "stuff it" now increase the risk of the "end date" being pushed back.

So many people seem to have forgotten the "data not dates" message. I guess they just hear what they want to hear.

It's totally ridiculous to say we have spent a year of not living properly.
We are in the middle of pandemic, not some kind of dictatorship that keeps us locked up.
I am not pro lockdown,I am not against it.Our family is not vulnerable,we don't have to shield but I just do whatever is necessary because I want to protect others who are.I am still astounded,a year on after all of his started that people are moaning about their loss of freedom etc.I did not see my family since last February but there are other means to keep in touch.I do miss lots of things and so do my DCs but we know that it won't be forever if we are a bit patient.
BTW,you do you but it sounds utterly ridiculous that grown-ups, instead of coming together to make this virus disappear ASAP,are behaving like whiny,spoiled toddlers.