Will lots just say 'stuff it' come the 23rd?

[JuneSummer]

It'll soon be a year since lockdown was first called and me and DH have been watching lots of TV coverage over the last few days. It's just dawned on us this week that we have now not seen our parents for a year, the DC haven't hugged their grandparents, we haven't been for any days out as a family, DC1 hasn't had a single uni class in person. The list goes on.

DH and I are now quickly coming to the conclusion that we just cannot and will not go on living like this any longer as a family. Particularly when there seems to be no end in sight if you listen to people like Chris Whitty and Christina Pagel (who was wanting masks and social distancing for the foreseeable future last night on the news).

Both sets of parents are in their mid 60s and have been vaccinated. We are now strongly minded to visit both at the beginning of April and allow them to see their DGC.

I suspect we will not be alone. Will lots of people simply say 'no more' upon realising they've spent a year of their lives not living?

We said fuck it a while back. Nothing major, no parties, but seeing one family member or friend indoors and meeting a couple of people outside.

I see how the micro ‘ but I get to see my family /I don’t get to see my family ‘ are ultimately the choice of the individual, but those choices end up having bigger consequences (eg more infections = more drain on the NHS = more lockdowns) which end up impacting everyone. When your actions extend lockdown, what are you doing to mean that lockdown isn’t biting you in the arse the way it is the rest of us?! How are you managing with it in such a way that you choose to extend it? If seeing people means infection rates rise - and there continues to be the drain on the nhs - how are you
~ managing childcare /education if schools close
~ accessing healthcare in a timely fashion
~ managing finances if businesses remain close
~ maintaining ties with loved ones who may be further afield

^ I don’t mean this in a goady way at all. I’m just generally confused! I’d like to pretend my reasons for sticking to lockdown are pure altruism- but honestly , mostly it’s just down to me wanting to reduce infections so we can come out of lockdown ASAP because I am very much over it !

I completely fail to see the logic of "I hate lockdown, so I'm going to behave in a way that risks prolonging lockdown"

I do all I can to be part of the solution, not the problem.

For selfish reasons, because I want it over - but also for my country and to protect other people.

@MazekeenSmith

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@roarfeckingroarr

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All today I have seen social media posts of people mixing with family beyond bubble etc while my father sits in hospital, non-COVID related and waiting for an op delayed due to stretched NHS resource. We can’t visit or travel to see other family who are worried sick. That’s the reality here. Not a mild illness, but those who are affected by increased admissions. It’s bloody hard not seeing family but most manage it, why can’t the rest. I hope this never happens to you.

@Zig27

I'm still following the rules but can understand why people are breaking them. It's been nearly 1 year but initially we were told 3 weeks "to flatten the curve".

I read earlier the government want to extend the lockdown for 6 months, I wonder if this will end even after vaccinations are complete. Just fed up of them dangling the carrot and then changing their minds at the last minute.

What?? No no no 😢😢😢

They can’t extend lockdown for another 6 months. We’ll they can, buy no one apart from the few very scared will abide by it. Hardly anyone I know is complying now, and the few that are only doing so as lockdown is being eased soon.

I certainly am not bothered if what I want to buy or go out for is essential or not, if I want it and it's available in a shop I will get it and if I want to leave the house several times a day I will, that ship sailed a long time ago

Not bothered about mixing with people or relatives as we don't anyway so for us that is easy but not bothered if others do, lockdowns affect people differently

Surely someone will stand up in this madness and speak for university students. Last week it was dropped casually by Boris that a May return to uni is being looked at but they may be off campus until September.

Clearly government don’t care about this generation of young people, but surely they don’t want to alienate millions of voters.

They can’t extend lockdown for another 6 months. We’ll they can, buy no one apart from the few very scared will abide by it

And yet it is abiding by it that has brought the figures down so much. If there is another lockdown ( my gut feeling is there will be around November) then l guess most people will abide by it. I will.

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

They can’t extend lockdown for another 6 months. We’ll they can, buy no one apart from the few very scared will abide by it

And yet it is abiding by it that has brought the figures down so much. If there is another lockdown ( my gut feeling is there will be around November) then l guess most people will abide by it. I will.

No thanks. No more lockdowns!

@Flyonawalk

Surely someone will stand up in this madness and speak for university students. Last week it was dropped casually by Boris that a May return to uni is being looked at but they may be off campus until September.

Clearly government don’t care about this generation of young people, but surely they don’t want to alienate millions of voters.

Fully agree. Uni students have been treated terribly throughout all this.

You can get online/remote degree courses for a fraction of the cost they're being charged. Unis have always justified their high charges for the personal teaching, Uni facilities etc., which are simply not being provided for most.

The Unis who aren't refunding/releasing students from Uni accommodation are an absolute disgrace, especially now that most students aren't even allowed on campus to use the rooms they're paying for.

Some of the unis who have behaved reprehensibly through all this probably won't survive (and don't deserve to survive). Look at Lancaster - trying to charge £18 per day for basic food parcel and the only other "support" was a pack of bog rolls for each flat forced to isolate when one flat member tested positive. It's a disgrace. (No sorry, they provided more support than that - they provided a list of businesses that would deliver food and a phone number of a laundry that would collect/deliver!).

Then, even though a flat was a bubble, the on site security would stop groups over 6 from just walking around campus - not even checking whether or not the group of 6 was actually allowed to do that because they lived together, so were a "bubble".

Lancaster has massively shot itself in the foot with the appalling way they've treated their students, many of whom are paying the Uni over £15k per year for their "experience"!

Why haven’t you seen your parents for a year? Why haven’t you been on a family day out in a year? There were plenty of times in between lockdowns you could have done both. That’s your decision.

Why haven’t you seen your parents for a year? Why haven’t you been on a family day out in a year? There were plenty of times in between lockdowns you could have done both. That’s your decision.

Depending on where you live and work commitments it might not have been possible

@user1497207191 You explain that brilliantly. The situation at Lancaster sounds terrible. If you have a DC there then I wish them all the best. I am sure this will come back to bite such unis in future, and some have handled it very poorly, but I feel angriest with the government who are telling them not to allow students on site.

I said "stuff it" last summer when it became evident that there was going to be no financial support for me and my business from Central Government whatsoever - despite my business model having been made illegal.

I'm surprised more haven't said "stuff it", though even I was slightly surprised to find myself drawn into a tight hug by DPs distant relative when we popped by to drop something off.

How can some people be so selfish as to think ‘fuck it’ and not follow the rules?!!!! I am thinking they are generally selfish people in day to day life anyway. CEV and not left the house since end of last February apart from to take the kids to school which in itself is a massive worry because my kids are mixing with kids of selfish people risking me snd my family. Yes I am totally pissed off not seeing anyone, I miss my mum. Haven’t seen one friend or family all this time but kids and dp. I want to you into a supermarket and pick out my own food but I would risk running into selfish people who haven’t followed the rules because clearly they have it harder than everyone else and obviously more special than the rest of us to have to follow rules. These people infuriate me with their selfishness. Don’t you feel guilty?!! Surely because you’re totally fed up with it all isn’t a reason. We are ALL fed up. Thank you for all those who do follow the rules!!!

@Workinghardeveryday

How can some people be so selfish as to think ‘fuck it’ and not follow the rules?!!!! I am thinking they are generally selfish people in day to day life anyway. CEV and not left the house since end of last February apart from to take the kids to school which in itself is a massive worry because my kids are mixing with kids of selfish people risking me snd my family. Yes I am totally pissed off not seeing anyone, I miss my mum. Haven’t seen one friend or family all this time but kids and dp. I want to you into a supermarket and pick out my own food but I would risk running into selfish people who haven’t followed the rules because clearly they have it harder than everyone else and obviously more special than the rest of us to have to follow rules. These people infuriate me with their selfishness. Don’t you feel guilty?!! Surely because you’re totally fed up with it all isn’t a reason. We are ALL fed up. Thank you for all those who do follow the rules!!!

I agree with all that.

My OH is ECV (Cancer) so we've been shielding. However, we can't "shield" properly as he has to go to numerous GP and hospital appointments, every single one of which causes anxiety due to the sheer number of people, even in hospital environments, who aren't following the rules, and the hospital management themselves who aren't putting in place proper precautions, such as still forcing people to wait in cramped waiting rooms with no ventilation etc for long periods of time (when they've closed off larger empty rooms nearby!).

Which hospital manager thought it was a good idea to have people waiting for a cancer consultant appointment (mostly low immunity due to cancer treatment etc), waiting in a cramped waiting area among a steady stream of people coming in for blood tests which were taking place literally in the room next door. It doesn't take a genius to work out that it may have been a good idea to have a different waiting area for the cancer patients! So many of those coming in for blood tests took off their mask as soon as they checked in at reception, and we could see through the door that the blood test "nurse" wasn't wiping down the chair between patients!

Just reading this gives me an insight into how lockdown 4 will happen.

I agree with you..I think lots of people are saying fuck it now..people who followed every rule to the letter. Enough now.

@Dragisnotacontactsport

I think the Government want this, for us to blame each other, as it takes away from their own inadequacy. Most cases are caught in hospitals, care homes, factories, prisons and the like.

Quite.

And apparently people who have, or have caught, covid in hospitals, are still being discharged into care homes.
Which I think is a scandal.

@ user1497207191
Sorry to hear your OH is poorly. It’s hard enough without the worry about catching Covid in a hospital when you should feel safe!

Hope the selfish posters read your comments and rethink how their actions affect others. Xx