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"Just stick to the rules for a bit longer"

146 replies

PlantPlant123 · 04/03/2021 09:57

Am I the only one getting sick of hearing this?

We're a year in. As of May, when household mixing is allowed, I won't have legally seen my partner indoors for seven months. Same with my sister, who is preparing to go back to teaching 4 x 30 different groups of teenagers everyday.

It's just so restrictive. I follow the rules as much as I can, but not as much admittedly as my mental health has taken a battering- I was supposed to have a psychiatrist appointment this morning on the phone and they never called me, so now I feel even worse.

I get it's a shit situation. But how long are we going to be asked to do this for? What if the vaccines hadn't worked?

I KNOW I'm just ranting (probably as a result of waiting months to be seen by a psychiatrist who apparently got to phone me) but when other countries with higher rates are allowing household mixing of some
form, even if limited, it just makes me so down. I'd LOVE the rule of six or two households.

I suppose I'd even be so controversial to say that I don't think the government has the right to ban household mixing for almost a year and that it's an overstep and gone on too long, but I guess that makes me "anti-lockdown" and a "covid denier" by some some people's standards

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rookiemere · 06/03/2021 12:35

@LunaHeather but in England there is a clear plan out of lockdown so they don't need to. In Scotland there appears to be a worrying desire to pursue zero covid which shouldn't be needed once majority are vaccinated.

LunaHeather · 06/03/2021 12:53

[quote rookiemere]@LunaHeather but in England there is a clear plan out of lockdown so they don't need to. In Scotland there appears to be a worrying desire to pursue zero covid which shouldn't be needed once majority are vaccinated.[/quote]
Oh right

I don't know anyone who believes in the plan though. Well, a couple of my sister's friends who have rebooked their big wedding. They are not the sharpest tools in the box though.

Plus I certainly wouldn't be surprised if they u turn and try for zero covid in England.

BonnieDundee · 06/03/2021 14:51

I'm looking forward to 29 March (in England). If they backtrack on that I dont care. I will have days out. I will not live with restrictions for more than one year of my life.

Disclaimer: I dont give a fuck who thinks I'm selfish and part of the problem. If anyone thinks its selfish to only give up a year of your life to restrictions they're not the sort of people I have much time for anyway Smile

LunaHeather · 06/03/2021 15:05

I had to look up 29 March

I found this gem on the alleged roadmap

"Holidays abroad will not be allowed, given it will remain important to manage the risk of imported variants and protect the vaccination programme."

BonnieDundee · 06/03/2021 15:12

Luna i only want a day out and a nice coffee somewhere that is not my town centre. Or to drive to the beach with a picnic Grin

I'd love a holiday too but I've accepted that isn't happening any time soon

sagaLoren · 06/03/2021 18:07

I walked down to the harbour today and there were lots of groups of friends and families sitting by the water drinking beers and eating ice creams. There was one policeman going around asking people to "move on please thank you". People seemed to just be walking around the corner and sitting back down again. It gives me hope that the public, not the politicians, will decide when it's time to have our freedoms back.

the80sweregreat · 06/03/2021 18:13

It's controversial , but once the schools open up so should non essential shops too.
We've all had enough, cases are falling and we've all done our bit. Let's open up now and get on with it.

amicissimma · 06/03/2021 18:44

@LunaHeather

I had to look up 29 March

I found this gem on the alleged roadmap

"Holidays abroad will not be allowed, given it will remain important to manage the risk of imported variants and protect the vaccination programme."

So now we're not only expected to protect the NHS, but also the vaccination programme.

How many other things that we believed were set up to look after us will we be asked to 'protect'?

Wondermule · 06/03/2021 18:51

@user1487194234

I do think the not seeing family in the house is shocking In Glasgow and it looks as if it will be months until we can do anything Will never vote SNPagain
What’s actually going on up there? I thought you were following the same roadmap just a bit slower?
yearinyearout · 06/03/2021 18:54

In England that’s very much being countered by messaging that the rate of decline has slowed and the Brazil variant is much more transmissible than the original, also not susceptible to the vaccine. In other words, we could soon be back to square one.

If that's the case, then bollocks to it. I'll take my chances rather than keep going through this cycle of lockdown/being let out and ruining the economy.

LunaHeather · 06/03/2021 20:18

amicis IKR? You couldn't make it up.

PlantPlant123 · 06/03/2021 20:49

It's ridiculous but I can't wait for Monday when I can sit on my local beach without someone telling me I'm "breaking lockdown."

The residents who live on the beach front seem to think they 'own' the beach and made it very obvious they don't like people parking nearby. I live a seven minute drive or 25 minute walk but the road is a country one with no path; so I drive and they assume I'm from miles away!

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user1487194234 · 06/03/2021 20:50

What’s actually going on up there? I thought you were following the same roadmap just a bit slower?
Well we don’t really know,but looking like a lot slower
Certainly if you are in Glasgow it looks like it could be a long time until we see any normality
Zero Covid seems to be the most unachieveble aim

sagaLoren · 06/03/2021 22:12

Zero Covid seems to be the most unachieveble aim

I think the experience of New Zealand, Hong Kong, Australia etc. are all examples of why this will never happen. You could quite literally shut your borders or force everyone into quarantine hotels and you'll still get transmission slipping through the cracks. It's a ridiculous aim, especially for a country like the UK.

User133847 · 06/03/2021 22:20

@Delatron

Yep I think we should all be making our own risk assessments especially with vaccinated family.

I’m having an argument on another thread about this! Pleased the tide is turning.
Don’t kill granny doesn’t wash anymore.

Listen to Boris then.
notrub · 06/03/2021 22:29

@sagaLoren

Zero Covid seems to be the most unachieveble aim

I think the experience of New Zealand, Hong Kong, Australia etc. are all examples of why this will never happen. You could quite literally shut your borders or force everyone into quarantine hotels and you'll still get transmission slipping through the cracks. It's a ridiculous aim, especially for a country like the UK.

There's always some horse manure doing the rounds - at the moment, the above is probably the messiest, stinkiest example of it.

The ridiculous argument being made by morons who tout this line is that if you cannot guarantee ZERO cases, there is no point in trying.

China, NZ, Oz, South Korea, Singapore have all been enjoying the benefits of a zero covid approach for ages, with life FAR FAR closer to normal than it will EVER be in the UK unless we follow suit.

Vaccines can make it VERY easy to maintain a zero covid approach - consider for example Measles - when was the last time you heard of an outbreak of measles in your area?? There's been a handful of small outbreaks in the UK over the last 20 years. Why? Vaccine induced herd-immunity.

Until we hit that point with covid, the UK is highly vulnerable to mutations, which could undo all the good work of this year so far. The oft talked about "booster" is useless - it would never be ready in time.

The way things are going, I suspect next winter, Australia will have a requirement for all incoming travellers to be vaccinated 1 month prior to travel - otherwise the nation will be covid-free, while in the UK, we'll likely be entering a 4th lockdown.

lollipoprainbow · 06/03/2021 22:31

Felt thoroughly fed up today even though the sun was shining, still feels a long long way to go.

Ellieboolou33 · 06/03/2021 22:38

Today was long enough for me and my friend invited me and my children around to her house. Our children had then st day ever according to them and will now continue to meet more regularly.

beela · 06/03/2021 22:57

Fml, protect the vaccination programme?? 🤦🏼‍♀️

Delatron · 06/03/2021 23:15

Oh ok 🤣

Delatron · 06/03/2021 23:16

As in ‘Listen to Boris’

LunaHeather · 06/03/2021 23:45

@beela

Fml, protect the vaccination programme?? 🤦🏼‍♀️
I feel as if this should be shared widely

People with social media please share

It's straight from the government roadmap document.
Step 1- changes on 29 March - Travel

www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-response-spring-2021/covid-19-response-spring-2021-summary

PlantPlant123 · 07/03/2021 01:28

Honestly the government documents are so miserable. "We will reconsider the situation in May on whether things such as hugging are safe between family members."

It's depressing and I don't see people still obeying not hugging in May.

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Borntohula · 07/03/2021 01:39

Is it actually still illegal for non cohabiting couples to sleep in the same bed? How ridiculous.

LunaHeather · 07/03/2021 02:12

@PlantPlant123

Honestly the government documents are so miserable. "We will reconsider the situation in May on whether things such as hugging are safe between family members."

It's depressing and I don't see people still obeying not hugging in May.

It's not the law. You don't have to follow it.