"Just stick to the rules for a bit longer"

[PlantPlant123]

Am I the only one getting sick of hearing this?

We're a year in. As of May, when household mixing is allowed, I won't have legally seen my partner indoors for seven months. Same with my sister, who is preparing to go back to teaching 4 x 30 different groups of teenagers everyday.

It's just so restrictive. I follow the rules as much as I can, but not as much admittedly as my mental health has taken a battering- I was supposed to have a psychiatrist appointment this morning on the phone and they never called me, so now I feel even worse.

I get it's a shit situation. But how long are we going to be asked to do this for? What if the vaccines hadn't worked?

I KNOW I'm just ranting (probably as a result of waiting months to be seen by a psychiatrist who apparently got to phone me) but when other countries with higher rates are allowing household mixing of some
form, even if limited, it just makes me so down. I'd LOVE the rule of six or two households.

I suppose I'd even be so controversial to say that I don't think the government has the right to ban household mixing for almost a year and that it's an overstep and gone on too long, but I guess that makes me "anti-lockdown" and a "covid denier" by some some people's standards

The thing is, it really is just a bit longer. I know it's shit, everyone is struggling now, the we just have to wait until the vaccines are rolled out. I know a couple of people in Group 6 who haven't been vaccinated yet, and they are most definitely at risk if they catch it. The further we get into the working age population, the more transmission will slow and rates will fall.

I've been seeing my partner as normal since May.
It was getting fucking ridiculous and my relationship was suffering badly.
The only people I know that have tested positive caught it in hospital and from schoolchildren.

Maybe its because more and more people are realising that whatever they do, whatever they sacrifice it will never be enough.
That instead of being thanked we will be blamed and scapegoated.

This

@lljkk

oh ffs, MNers have been predicting widespread Lockdown resistance & defiance since April (?March) 2020. In meantime, a large majority of people actually conformed a large majority of the time. Support continues to be actively high for strong controls. It's not what I want, but I have no delusions -- this is what majority want.

Same here Not what I want but thought majority wanted it

But...I have to do a long Tube journey twice a week. in January the Tube was deserted.

It's gradually filling up on all four journeys. Very encouraging. I don't know if it's people working or socialising. I don't travel in either rush hour.

Also activity at non central stations is noticeably different e.g. two people get on together at a zone 4 station and disembark two stops later at 7pm. They're likely visiting loved ones. Which is all a good sign.

I'll never get past what's happened but people might be finally, quietly, breaking the nonsense laws.

The thing that got me on the roadmap is when we start doing rule of six inside I think, stadiums will also open to 10,000 people. That was a serious WTF moment and seemed a big leap. I person ONLY!!! Outdoors ONLY! Ok we’ll let a few more inside, 6 ONLY then BANG 10,000 people.

Yep. People say the French lockdown is "severe" but the state has never told them they can't have their own family in the house. It's a slow and permanent mission creep of the state into every aspect of our lives. I certainly don't deny covid is a problem. I just totally disagree with the "cure". But then I look at Brazil and kind of also go "oh fuck".

I'm with you OP. I reluctantly supported the lockdown in January because of the state the NHS was in and because we were just a couple of weeks away from getting the most vulnerable vaccinated.

But I'm really at the end of my rope with this now. I've not had a conversation with another human face to face apart from my partner (and my dentist!) in months. I'd have to leave my area to see any friends or family which I'm obviously not allowed to do and apparently won't be allowed to do for some time yet. I can't do this anymore.

You're not alone. Right up there with the 'selfish' thrown around like it's an insult. Yep, sure am!

I'm done with it. Last week I met with two members of staff in one of their houses. No touching, hand sanitised and windows open. God it was good to see humans and we got more work done in one hour than in a week of bloody emails and zoom. Flame me, I'm past caring. We have to live with this thing so lets just get on with it.

Flame me, I'm past caring. We have to live with this thing so lets just get on with it.

100% agree.

The whole thing is like a soap opera now - life feels like nothing but the Government fuelling unnecessary drama.

The vulnerable have been vaccinated, plus many more, so it’s time to get our lives back.

I also don't understand the logic of any of this once we've got vulnerable people vaccinated. I'm young enough that the risk to me is tiny. I would rather my vaccine doses went to a vulnerable person in a poor country, not to me who will likely experience nothing more than a bit of a cough. Except in this mad world it seems like I have no choice but to get vaccinated if I want my life back. None of it makes any sense to me.

@Racoonworld

I don’t think it’s what most people want. Lots of people are breaking rules, they just aren’t vocal about it. Everyone I know now is seeing close family. It’s common knowledge amongst us but we aren’t shouting about it, just getting in with life quietly.

This! Stopped seeing my parents and in laws in lockdown 1( for about 6/8 weeks) but never even considered it since and won't be considering it ever again. Dont get me wrong theres no huge family Sunday dinners or parties going on like we regularly had before, but I see my parents at least twice a week for a cuppa and catch up and in laws about once a week. I haven't seen friends indoors or had any of my dc friends round, happy to meet them for walks etc and chat over zoom, but cutting contact with our parents was non negotiable and that was a decision made by all of us. Had my parents or in laws not wanted to see us of course I'd of respected that.

@Jellybaby4

Public compliance is shrinking because of selfish people that cant be bothered anymore and dont care enough

Good one.

@Jellybaby4

Public compliance is shrinking because of selfish people that cant be bothered anymore and dont care enough

Yep, that's right. I care about my own mental health and my family's first and foremost. Guilt trips don't work on me and I see that's true for an increasing number of people.

Yanbu

@Jellybaby4

Public compliance is shrinking because of selfish people that cant be bothered anymore and dont care enough

Yet it isn’t selfish to expect everyone to sit at home for a year watching their finances and mental health crash in order to protect others?

Yep thats right. I care about my own mental health and my family's first and foremost. Guilt trips dont work on me and I see that's true for an increasing number of people

Couldn't have put it any better myself! If that makes me "selfish " then I can live with that and will lose no sleep whatsoever

@sagaLoren

I also don't understand the logic of any of this once we've got vulnerable people vaccinated. I'm young enough that the risk to me is tiny. I would rather my vaccine doses went to a vulnerable person in a poor country, not to me who will likely experience nothing more than a bit of a cough. Except in this mad world it seems like I have no choice but to get vaccinated if I want my life back. None of it makes any sense to me.

Just the mention of Mad World...so apt.

🎤i find it kind of funny
I find it kind of sad
The dreams in which i'm dying are the best I've ever had
I find it hard to tell you cos I find it to take🎤

I nearly topped myself in April. Tbh I don't really know what the rules are but I've only got one friend who is willing to visit anyway, she's the one who stopped me.

I now don't talk to anyone IRL about lockdown or vaccines. I have actually had my first vaccine because I'm clinically vulnerable and I knew the doctor wouldn't drop it, but I haven't told anyone IRL.

I agree with you OP.

@Delatron

Yep I think we should all be making our own risk assessments especially with vaccinated family.

I’m having an argument on another thread about this! Pleased the tide is turning.
Don’t kill granny doesn’t wash anymore.

Absolutely agree. Sick of people calling others selfish yet I expect they are breaking the rules themselves in some way. Selfish is holding a party for 50 people. Not seeing your friend or family in a risk assessed safe way. I also agree some people are enjoying it all. We all have to do what we can to stop the spread and be as safe as we can but not at the expense of jobs, mental health etc

Why was more time not spent increasing NHS capacity

Because hospitals are not built or extended over night..,and because it takes years to train nurses and doctors?

I was vaccinated a couple of weeks ago by a couple of people who were way past retirement age. The centre was being supported by a large number of volunteers. People are out there doing their bit. You could go out and support your community so that things move forwards that little bit more quickly? You know, do your bit? Or are you just going to moan about it, meet up with people and potentially become part of the problem?

My parents, my brother & sis in law and sister and myself have all had vaccination. Only my dh and our kids unvaccinated. We follow all rules. They all li e hours away so haven't seen them. My parents are asking us to come for 2nd week of easter. I'm tempted. We may go self catering near by but I cant see us staying out of the house! I have 30 kids and 3 staff in my class everyday

I do think the not seeing family in the house is shocking
In Glasgow and it looks as if it will be months until we can do anything
Will never vote SNPagain

@LunaHeather I hope you're feeling better now .

Yes to user. It's even worse for those of us in Scotland. No time frame or fucks given about when we might see our loved ones again, strong sense that if they live in England rather than Scotland that it will be the thirty sixth of never. Can only hope SNP get drubbed in local elections and there can finally be some effective opposition to this.

[quote rookiemere]@LunaHeather I hope you're feeling better now .

Yes to user. It's even worse for those of us in Scotland. No time frame or fucks given about when we might see our loved ones again, strong sense that if they live in England rather than Scotland that it will be the thirty sixth of never. Can only hope SNP get drubbed in local elections and there can finally be some effective opposition to this.[/quote]
Thank you.

I don't know what the situation is in Scotland but in England, no party has spoken against lockdown.