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To think you wouldn’t get vaccinated if you knew your risk from covid was low

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Coveed · 27/02/2021 21:36

Just imagine for a moment there was a calculator that could predict your risk of getting seriously ill or dying from covid. If it turned out you were low risk would you still follow all the advice such as socially distancing and getting vaccinated?

YABU - yes I would still follow the rules and advice even if I were low risk
YANBU - no I wouldn’t endure the hardship of not seeing friends/family and I wouldn’t bother with getting vaccinated as my risk of becoming unwell would be low.

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Sunshinegirl82 · 27/02/2021 23:35

@Bigtom

It depends very heavily on your age, if you are over 80 then the mortality rate is about 15%, over 70 about 8%.

RedcurrantPuff · 27/02/2021 23:35

[quote Bigtom]@RedcurrantPuff I get that, but I mean in terms of what is in the vaccine. It’s not a weakened version of the virus is it?[/quote]
No it’s not a live virus. I had the AZ which is a modified chimpanzee adenovirus I think.

Bigtom · 27/02/2021 23:35

@Sunshinegirl82 thanks, that’s a helpful explanation.

RedcurrantPuff · 27/02/2021 23:35

Live vaccine sorry

Dustyboots · 27/02/2021 23:37

The vaccine is better in that you get the immunity of having the illness without having to have the illness.

But @RedcurrantPuff - everyone I know who's had Covid have had it mildly. There a many who've had the vaccine and the reaction is worse than those I know who've had Covid. I'm low risk and would rather have Covid.

WalkingOverRainbows · 27/02/2021 23:37

The OP sounds like a journalist.

Sunshinegirl82 · 27/02/2021 23:38

@Dustyboots

Vaccines aren't really medicine, they are not chemical. They are biological and broken down by your body like all other biological things (such as the viruses and bacteria you come into contact with everyday).

There is no biological mechanism for the vaccine to cause cancer. How would that happen?

Bigtom · 27/02/2021 23:39

@imamearcat I’m not stupid or unusually selfish (I think everyone’s a bit selfish, you’re surely in denial if you believe you always act for the greater good). I’m actually surprised more people don’t question whether it’s safe to be honest.

RedcurrantPuff · 27/02/2021 23:40

@Dustyboots

The vaccine is better in that you get the immunity of having the illness without having to have the illness.

But @RedcurrantPuff - everyone I know who's had Covid have had it mildly. There a many who've had the vaccine and the reaction is worse than those I know who've had Covid. I'm low risk and would rather have Covid.

Really? Even if you get it mild, and there’s no guarantee, it’s still an imposition on your and your whole household’s lives, you all have to stay at home for 10 days, you don’t have to do that if you have a couple of days feeling rotten from a vaccine

Plus there are 120000 people dead who it wasn’t mild for, some of them may have been low risk.

Bigtom · 27/02/2021 23:41

@Sunshinegirl82 you seem to know what you’re talking about. So are you saying the body completely breaks down the vaccine and there’s nothing left in your body that could harm you?

RedcurrantPuff · 27/02/2021 23:42

I’ve had the vaccine and my side effects were very mild and completely manageable.

Thimbleberries · 27/02/2021 23:42

Loads have no effects from the vaccine at all. I haven't had any. You just hear about those that do. Equally, some people do have long term effects from having covid, even if you don't know them (they may not know yet, things like scarring on the lungs might not be apparent immediately). So the risk of short term side effects from a vaccine that is safe, vs the unknown long term effects of a virus that occur in quite a few people even at younger ages...

RedcurrantPuff · 27/02/2021 23:43

I heard a case the other day of someone who had no Covid symptoms at the time of infection but now has long Covid

Dustyboots · 27/02/2021 23:43

There is no biological mechanism for the vaccine to cause cancer. How would that happen?

I really don't know Sunshinegirl82 - Maybe some of the ingredients being toxic ... of course vaccines can trigger immune responses and cause autoimmune illnesses can't they?

So something like psoriasis could be triggered and cancer is autoimmune isn't it?

Coyoacan · 27/02/2021 23:44

I am old and will have to get the vaccine, but I don't agree with younger healthy people being expected to have it, as long as the vulnerable are vaccinated as we still don't know how safe it is long term.

Bigtom · 27/02/2021 23:44

@Sunshinegirl82 if you have time to point me in the direction of a reliable website that explains this in fairly basic terms, I’d be very grateful.

Sunshinegirl82 · 27/02/2021 23:45

Yes, it's biological in nature. Your body recognises that it's foreign and launches an immune response (that's the bit that can make you feel a bit rough, the immune response).

Your body kills off the foreign body and it will be broken down and got rid of. It doesn't hang around. Your body then remembers what the invader looks like and how to fight it quickly. If you are exposed to coronavirus your immune system immediately leaps into action and kills the virus off.

Bigtom · 27/02/2021 23:46

@Dustyboots that’s a bit worrying ... I already have several autoimmune problems Confused

Rubybluesy · 27/02/2021 23:48

YABU and S

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Coffeeandaride · 27/02/2021 23:49

I am low risk. I have been vaccinated.

I would say even for me the risk of vaccination is much lower than the risk of COVID (not just dying but complications).

However the main joy I had at vaccination was because I have worried all year that I would catch and transmit covid and that this would cause hospitalisation or death of someone I work with.

I have been prepared to keep away from people socially and my family for a lot of the past 12 months. Being vaccinated is part of the solution. I will not do this indefinitely.

In addition to all that is how is the country going to get out of this otherwise. If only to end lockdown, for all the people suffering in lockdown (I’m not doing too bad), I’d get the vaccine. I’d get it every year. I’d be much more resistant to annual lockdowns, restrictions on large gatherings or similar.

RedcurrantPuff · 27/02/2021 23:50

Dustyboots to be blunt you’ve got a 50% chance of getting cancer, Covid vaccine or not.

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Coveed · 27/02/2021 23:53

Please let’s treat each other’s opinions with respect and avoid name calling.

Also, this is not a thread for discussing the risks/benefits of vaccination - it’s really just asking if your behaviour might change dependent on your level of risk. Overwhelming the majority have said no, their behaviour is driven by altruistic motives to protect the most vulnerable in our society, rather than fear about their own personal risk. I find this interesting as it goes against the scientific evidence that functional fear is the key predictor of compliance with public health interventions in relation to COVID.

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Dustyboots · 27/02/2021 23:53

I'm not sure if this is helpful @Bigtom

It is about vaccines and autoimmune inflammatory rheumatic disease.

ard.bmj.com/content/annrheumdis/suppl/2017/03/20/ard.2010.137216.DC3/Final_lay_version_Vaccination_infl_RD.pdf

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Coveed · 27/02/2021 23:57

@WalkingOverRainbows I am not a journalist.

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