To think you wouldn’t get vaccinated if you knew your risk from covid was low

[Coveed]

Just imagine for a moment there was a calculator that could predict your risk of getting seriously ill or dying from covid. If it turned out you were low risk would you still follow all the advice such as socially distancing and getting vaccinated?

YABU - yes I would still follow the rules and advice even if I were low risk
YANBU - no I wouldn’t endure the hardship of not seeing friends/family and I wouldn’t bother with getting vaccinated as my risk of becoming unwell would be low.

[quote Coveed]@DumplingsAndStew - how do you know I’ve changed my username? Are you a moderator- in which case you should not be telling everyone that I’ve changed my user username?!

I changed it for the same reason as others, and the same reason I’ve changed it before - I don’t want people searching through my posts and finding out personal identifying information eg) what my interests are, where I live, how many kids I have, or even how my husband annoyed me when he didn’t clean the poop off the toilet seat.

But really, I’m very interested to know how you would know that I’ve changed my username? Do you have access to my username history some how?[/quote]
If you do an advanced search on a poster and they have no posting history under that name, it’s easy to deduce that you’re either a brand new poster or have name changed. It’s not rocket science and not sinister.

@DumplingsAndStew - how do you know I’ve changed my username? Are you a moderator- in which case you should not be telling everyone that I’ve changed my user username?!

Blimey, you certainly are new round here.

@1useonly -
I can't see how you would get an equal response from all sides. As I think if People came on and said I'm not getting it because xyz. They would get ripped apart. So they read but don't comment.

It was originally on AIBU and the poll was really interesting- about 10% of people did say it would affect their behaviour- obviously not everyone would feel comfortable typing that down and having it linked to their username- but 10% is quite a lot of people...

I'd have it because I'm not a selfish tool and I want people around me, known or otherwise, to be well.

How many more times do anti-vaxxers need to hear that? It's not about YOUR risk. It's about everyone else's.

I think my adult child will take the vaccine if offered.

Very low risk on age but on genetics who knows?

There is always someone voting the other way.
You could talk about kicking puppies for sport and there would be at least 1% YANBU

But why would people knowing personal details about your kids or your husband's disgusting toileting habits have any effect on how they responded to this thread?

I'm pregnant and can't get the vaccine... It really worries me that people who can get the vaccine won't because of ignorance like this. It's not about you.

@Sunshinegirl82

Vaccines do not have "delayed" side effects. That is not to say that side effects are not possible but they happen quickly after the vaccine is given. There has never been a situation where a vaccine is given, nothing happens for years and then side effects suddenly start occurring as a result.

Vaccines are biological in nature and are broken down by the body, they don't hang around or build up in the way that drugs (which are generally chemical in nature) can.

The vaccine has been tested in the same way as every other vaccine and is as safe as every other vaccine.

What about the development of autoimmune disorders? We may not find out about those until much later on. My understanding put simply is the MRNA vaccine is injected into your body, your body is then told to make the cells with the spike protein on. Your body then will recognise these as an enemy, attack them and remember them. This is what gives us the upper hand when covid comes along as your body already remembers it's spike protein as an enemy so is able to start it'a immune 'attack' faster. However sometimes our bodies can encode for the enemy wrong. Sometimes it may mistake normal cells in our body for an enemy and this is what causes immune disorders e.g. in multiple sclerosis the immune process has gone wrong somewhere because our own body attacks the myelin sheath (covering nerve cells). These immune disorders would have a huge impact. This is the scary part in my opinion, what if our bodies react to the vaccine (as clearly people are having a big immune response as lots are having symptoms post vaccine) in such a way that we develop immunological disorders in the future?

I’m 31 and a generally healthy person, I had Covid last October, no fever or cough just complete loss of smell and taste, bounced back into work after isolation period, thought I’d been lucky.

4 months later and i am worn out with fatigue, my hair is falling out and thinning and I still can hardly smell and get phantom smoke smells and all sorts. All of these as part of post Covid. Nobody should be ignorant or arrogant enough to think their risk is low. Yes you may be at low risk of dying, but it can still have a massive effect on your life.

@Coveed is clearly brand new to mumsnet.

As someone else said - you won’t get a balanced response on here for your ‘research’, as people are flamed if they don’t join in with the most popular opinion.

Are we giving you free feedback for some paid project, or is this lazy journalism? We know you’ve already denied that. But we don’t have to take your word for it, you know.

@viixie

You might find this useful

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12612250/

And also this page and website more generally:

vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/faqs-about-vaccines#long-term-effects

My covid risk was low and remains low. I was regularly running 5 and 10ks. I caught it early in the first wave, just before Easter, and it was a pretty mild case - much easier than most people I know.

I'm knocking on for a year of long covid. I'm on a streak of six days of fatigue and brain fog disturbing my sleep.

I'd advise you not to be such a fool as to risk infection.

I have preexsiting autoimmune conditions. Covid itself is far more likely to trigger my conditions to flare, than any of the vaccines.

Yes because it's to protect others.

@Dustyboots please stop tagging me, I am no longer going to respond to your posts. Someone who resorts to name calling is usually unhappy in themselves and takes the opportunity to project that unhappiness onto others. I try to avoid this type of interaction in real life. I am not a journalist, I am not engaging in “lazy journalism”. Your posts on this thread will not be in the papers (tabloid or research). Please stop tagging me, I hope you have an enjoyable Sunday.

@OhYouBadBadKitten

I have preexsiting autoimmune conditions. Covid itself is far more likely to trigger my conditions to flare, than any of the vaccines.

That was my experience.

Covid knocked by my immune system. I had my first psoriasis flare up in many years (normally controlled totally via the arthritis meds) and I had a massive psoriatic arthritis flare up, following covid. The pain got so bad I needed liquid morphine to be prescribed. Eventually another steroid injection got it to calm down, but only after a couple of months or more.

What is tagging?

I’m using your username in the way others mention the person posts are meant for. That’s how it’s usually done on here, isn’t it?

It doesn’t mean I’m unhappy in myself

I’m very happy. Thank you Coveed.

Is the tagging name calling? I haven’t called you any names- other than Coveed which is your username.

Haven’t RTFT but yes I would definitely get the vaccine and take the precautions.

Yes, to protect others but also it is still best for you.

First, you can be as low risk on paper as you like but no-one can be sure they won’t be an unlucky case...we have all seen the terrible stories of others who were ‘low risk’. So while you might from a purely selfish point of view decide not to make daily behavioural decisions based on that, the vaccine should be a no brainer.

Also, if you are contributing to lowering case numbers by being vaccinated (seems to be reducing transmission, and less likely you will need nhs help), or by taking precautions in daily life, you are not just protecting yourself or others from covid. You are protecting yourself from all effects of Covid cases getting high again...damage to businesses and the economy, school closures, nhs compromised care for other conditions etc etc etc etc. Covid might not effect you badly as an illness, but as a pandemic or epidemic it will effect your life in many ways.

So basically, no one should be lazy and expect to coast by on the sacrifices of others. We all need to do our bit.