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Is it fair to say teachers need to be more committed?

178 replies

Ladytremain · 26/02/2021 17:22

www.independent.co.uk/news/education/covid-schools-reopening-ofsted-teachers-b1807935.html

Seems a tad harsh I think

OP posts:
TheLuckiest · 26/02/2021 18:23

Teacher here.
Wilshaw is a prick. He's like the Katie Hopkins of education.
HTH.
😁

TheReluctantPhoenix · 26/02/2021 18:27

I think that he could justifiably say that IF teachers were held in higher esteem by schools, parents and wider society.

While bankers and management consultants were being sent lists of office furniture and computer equipment to set up their home office at their employer’s expense, teachers were expected to teach remotely on whatever they had at home, some doing it on a dodgy last generation tablet.

At the same time, pupils have limited respect for teachers and most parents less so.

Pay a senior teacher the same as a medical consultant and treat them with the same level of respect and then, maybe, ask them to risk their lives.

namechange63524 · 26/02/2021 18:28

In many jobs - pandemic or not - there are times when you have to sacrifice a lot of personal time to meet deadlines etc. Lots of teachers (excluding furloughed ones) didn't do v much in lockdown 1 - whether that was a direction from management or not, I don't know. That's not teacher bashing. It's the way it was - huge discrepancies between provision within and between schools. Lots of teachers also worked their socks off. Since then, I think teachers have been asked to go way above and beyond the norm - and most have delivered. As a profession, I do not think teachers should be asked to risk their lives in the way they have been. I'm not a teacher and normally against strike action etc, but I would have supported teachers taking strike action as the way they've been treated has been an absolute disgrace. All in all, I agree OP - very harsh comments!

Radagast · 26/02/2021 18:28

I mean, I do like my year 9s but I'm not sure I want to die for them...

Totallyfedup1979 · 26/02/2021 18:31

He sees the awful, unnecessary, deaths of so many NHS staff...as the bar for school staff to reach.

Pleb.

itsgettingwierd · 26/02/2021 18:36

He's a prick.

But even so there is a flaw in his plan.

Because like with nhs and transport etc when you start to lose experienced workers at a high rate you actually end up with no one to do the job you're complaining they don't do!

Plus I'm sure there's going to be a fantastic education in classrooms full of students grieving their teacher or ta.

WhenSheWasBad · 26/02/2021 18:39

Wilshaw is a dick.

There is a massive gap in health outcomes if you compare disadvantaged communities with advantaged ones.

Where I live the average death rate for males in a disadvantaged area is 15 years lower than the wealthier borough. Is this the fault of the NHS - of course not.

I have nothing good to say about that man.

herecomesthsun · 26/02/2021 18:43

no

DarceyDashwood · 26/02/2021 18:43

I am in awe of the teachers at my sons school. And beyond grateful. The hey have gone above and beyond throughout this crisis. The right wing media have an anti-teachers agenda and it is disgusting.

Howshouldibehave · 26/02/2021 18:47

Wilshaw should not be given a second of airtime-he’s just a man who used to work for Ofsted. I’m sure he won’t be going unvaccinated into any schools now.

Why don’t they interview actual working teachers and heads and see what their views are?

Pieceofpurplesky · 26/02/2021 18:52

Words fail me. Which is unusual

mnahmnah · 26/02/2021 18:53

I’m confused what he thinks we have been doing since last March and what he thinks we will be doing from March 8th.

AhFiddledeedee · 26/02/2021 18:57

The teachers at my school have nothing more they can commit imho.

They are teaching dual classes, those in the class room and those on teams simultaneously.

They are giving feedback on my childs profile at 10.30 at night and uploading the class timetable and worksheets for the week each weekend.

I cant believe anyone thinks they should be doing and giving more

EarringsandLipstick · 26/02/2021 18:58

@PheasantPlucker1

Headline, "Teachers should be prepared to sacrifice their lives".

I notice he isnt volunteering to go first.
Or even risk entering a classroom.

Yes. That's the headline, which is nicely goady.

He didn't actually say this. Appalling journalism.

EarringsandLipstick · 26/02/2021 18:59

I think it's utterly disgraceful to suggest teachers should be prepared to die because of unsafe conditions in schools.

Well, he didn't suggest it.

He said medical professionals have in some cases sacrificed their lives, and the same commitment should be expected of teachers.

I don't agree with this either, btw, but it's not actually the same dramatic statement as 'teachers, prepare to die'

SweetPetrichor · 26/02/2021 19:00

Teaching is just a job. I don’t expect teachers to sacrifice anything for their pupils. My parents were both teachers - the switched off at 5pm and didn’t work weekends or during holidays. Pupils are just pupils. Teachers don’t owe them anything.

Pinkflipflop85 · 26/02/2021 19:01

Hes an attention seeking dick.

GinJeanie · 26/02/2021 19:02

I have no words... 😱

TheMoth · 26/02/2021 19:08

IT 'S FRIDAY NIGHT PEOPLE!!!
TEACHERS: STEP AWAY. You KNOW you can feel your stress levels rising here, so DO. NOT. ENGAGE.

katieloves · 26/02/2021 19:11

My dcs teachers have literally made me cry a couple of times during this lockdown with absolute gratitude at their commitment. Whilst I am frustrated with the school situation (mainly the GCSE issues ) non of my frustration is to do with their school or teachers who couldn’t have done any more.

Lemons1571 · 26/02/2021 19:11

Whoever this guy is, he should be prepared to show you all how it’s done. In a small unventilated room of 30 16 year olds. Unless he leads the way his opinion counts for nothing.

LolaSmiles · 26/02/2021 19:24

DO. NOT. ENGAGE
It's why I've avoided Facebook tonight as quite a few of my teacher friends are posting about it. It's not worth it.

Xerochrysum · 26/02/2021 19:27

Our school's teachers are already committed enough.

Heyha · 26/02/2021 19:28

Wilshaw is the one that said to headteachers something along the lines of "if staff morale is low, you know you're doing it right". I can't understand why this irrelevance of a man keeps getting air time.

Monkeytennis97 · 26/02/2021 19:30

@Heyha

Wilshaw is the one that said to headteachers something along the lines of "if staff morale is low, you know you're doing it right". I can't understand why this irrelevance of a man keeps getting air time.
This.
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