So much for ‘protect the NHS’

[littlelionboss]

This is a ranty post & I apologise.

I’m really starting to get pissed off with the vaccine situation.

My area are now onto vaccinating the over 40’s!!!

I’ve got family & friends that have been called for theirs... fit, healthy, no underlying health conditions.

I’m early 30’s two health conditions and I’m in group 6 for the vaccine.

I can’t book online and when I’ve spoken to my GP (today) they’ve just said I will have to wait for them to contact me.

My sister in law has been given hers on the basis that she’s a carer.
She “cares” for her husband who has a bad back.
A back so bad that over the summer he’s completely transformed his back garden, alone!

It just really doesn’t seem fair at all.

I have a small child and I’m a single parent, surely I should be vaccinated as a carer?!

I know we are all entitled to the vaccine, but hasn’t the point all along beeb to protect the NHS?!

How are we protecting them by jumping ahead to the fit and healthy and leaving the vulnerable ones behind?!

Everyone will get a vaccine. It's a matter of months between us all.

The more people are vaccinated, the lower the rate of circulating infection - so every vaccine helps every one.

GP surgeries have messed up group 6. Receptionists seem to be deciding which health conditions meet criteria
It was predictable though this would happen

Most areas aren’t anywhere near vaccinating the over 40’s and each area is different. Here they are still doing over 65’s and those who are vulnerable. It’s easy to call up people determined by age but harder for doctors to pinpoint everyone who had a health issue. I can understand your frustration but they will get to to you! 🌸 I’m at the point now that the more of that are vaccinated the better. Yes some people are more in need of the jab than others but we just have to sit tight! I’ve had a letter today inviting me (I’m 30) because I’m a carer of a disabled child! I feel kinda guilty but he doesn’t see his dad much and I do worry about getting seriously ill!

@lojojomo

Everyone will get a vaccine. It's a matter of months between us all.

The more people are vaccinated, the lower the rate of circulating infection - so every vaccine helps every one.

This!

I don’t see the issue.

We will all be done at some point.

However, the more people who badger the GP’s and other service providers the more time is wasted.

Let them get on with their jobs.

I think carers are being called because of how much it would cost should a carer become sick im my mums carer and if I got covid then she would need home carers at least 3 times a day that would cost a lot more than the £67 a week they pay me so i had my vaccine today after being invited to and mostly to protect my mum and also because I wouldn't like strangers looking after her I feel its my job x

@Justforphoto

Group 6 is a disaster and I suspect the reason they have opted to do the rest strictly by age.

I agree. I was contacted earlier today (waited a week for clarification) by my GP confirming that, despite my three overnight stays in A and E on oxygen for asthma, that doesn’t count as ‘admissions’ (even though she thought it should) and I won’t be in group 6. Literally minutes after the call I heard the JCVI had now announced the next groups will all follow in age order. And frankly, at 49, I imagine I could well get it based on age criteria before I would have got it in group 6 anyway, tbh. The hubs are ripping through the age groups here. I was surprised when the GP told me last week they’d prioritised getting invites to group 6 over group 5, I now understand why. It seems more complicated and slow. Meanwhile group 5 have been swiftly processed through the hubs, because they can book online as soon as their group opens up, while the GP still tries to identify all group 6 individuals.

My 30 yr old cousin got a vaccine 2 wks ago because she volunteers at a shelter & has been doing so for yrs & throughout covid. Another friend who looks healthy & is young has just been invited but has a underlying heart condition. Just because some one is young doesn't mean they don't deserve it.

[quote littlelionboss]@rosiejaune

And anyway, anyone who has it protects you indirectly.

How? Does the vaccine stop transmission?![/quote]
Yes, almost certainly. All the data and reports out recently show that this is the case, as was always expected. (they just couldn't confirm it until they had data to support)

@littlelionboss
I wouldn't worry too much about the waiting time...Most people in groups 40-49 and 30-39 won't be having jabs, so your turn comes a lot quicker than you think. Initially they wanted to get everyone vaccinated by the end of the year and now we are talking summer time. This means only one thing - people are not taking these jabs as the gov hoped for. They are so desperate now that started using big guns like the Queen!

Most people in groups 40-49 and 30-39 won't be having jabs, so your turn comes a lot quicker than you think.
Won't they? How in earth can you predict that with such certainty?

Initially they wanted to get everyone vaccinated by the end of the year and now we are talking summer time. This means only one thing - people are not taking these jabs as the gov hoped for.
Take up percentages look pretty good to me. We're taking summertime because we are (for the most part - appreciate group 6 is not going great) vaccinating lots of people very quickly.

Your issue really is that you don’t agree that carers should be ahead of you in the queue. I can’t agree and think as a young healthy adult you should take your turn and let those in more need go first. Either your BIL is lying to get benefits (highly unlikely as disability benefits have a tiny rate for this sort of behaviour) in which case do you REALLY think we should recheck each disabled adult before vaccinating them, OR, your BIL is far more at risk as is his wife than you are. Either way YABU at best.

None of us are going to be out that much till the summer at the very earliest. Sit tight and stop this jealous thrashing around it isn’t good.

I wish my ed got hers before I had mine as she has a underlying health condition but it is not on the lists (CRPS). I, on the other hand, am relatively fit and healthy, ignoring the anaemia.

My husband is in group 6 and got a text message on Tuesday inviting him to book online and he was vaccinated that evening. He has several colleagues who also fall into group 6 who have also been able to book online and have been vaccinated this week The online booking appears to be a Nottinghamshire specific link.

@Beep9724

I’ve had a letter today inviting me (I’m 30) because I’m a carer of a disabled child! I feel kinda guilty but he doesn’t see his dad much and I do worry about getting seriously ill!

Oh gosh. You shouldn’t feel guilty and I hope my post doesn’t contribute to you feeling that way.

I don’t begrudge anyone having a vaccine and especially those in need.

I can only base my feelings on the people I know personally and the rate of vaccinations in my own area!

The people I know that have had a vaccine so far (with the exception of parents and grandparents) are all in the non priority groups.

Be glad you're in the UK. Our German friend's 97 year old mother has got to wait till April for her first shot.

@time4anothername

I don't blame you for the rant. I am finding it incredibly cruel that people with health conditions that have had to live with an extra layer of worry and pressure this year for fear that they may have Covid worse than average are having to wait and watch while those less at risk get the vaccine.

I totally understand this but what do you think these people should do? Do you think they should turn the vaccination down? Every single vaccination is a good thing. Do I think the system is perfect? Absolutely not, but I cannot understand people being resentful of another person being given their vaccination. As someone said above, this anger is misplaced.

Gosh. So many threads like this.

It's not faaaiiiiirrrrr.

Maybe the government should have made everyone wait a bit longer and then have a grand "mass vaccination" event where everyone in the country gets their vaccine at exactly the same time to make it fair.

@Beaniecats

GP surgeries have messed up group 6. Receptionists seem to be deciding which health conditions meet criteria It was predictable though this would happen

Absolute tosh.

The receptionists are absolutely not deciding who meets the criteria, that is a GP and Nurse decision following NHS criteria.

The receptionists are fielding a high number of calls from understandably anxious patients, many of them taking their frustrations out on the reception teams.

I'm group 6 and still waiting, not that it matters when I've been unwell with covid for over a month.

Some people in my area are getting their over 60s vaccination contact, but then within households I know some couples in the same category where one has been contacted and the other hasn't.

FWIW I think they're doing their best in our area to roll it out, but no system is perfect and I think group 6 has caused a huge headache.

I can see why it's frustrating. As has been said, the reason is that age is very easy to pull from a centralised data base, group 6 is made up of those who GPs find to fit the criteria; and it's not info or data that is already available, so has to be sorted at a more local level.

It is frustrating OP. It's not fair when you know you are vulnerable and you have the added stress of being a single parent. Totally get it. It will come. Just not fast enough!

@littlelionboss

I don’t begrudge anyone having a vaccine...

You clearly do otherwise there wouldn't be a thread.

@lojojomo

Everyone will get a vaccine. It's a matter of months between us all.

The more people are vaccinated, the lower the rate of circulating infection - so every vaccine helps every one.

Exactly. There's an argument that young, healthy working age people should be vaccinated first because they're the ones who are out and about spreading the virus. While I don't agree with that exactly I don't think it does any harm for younger people to start being vaccinated before group 6 has been completed.