Is anyone planning on refusing to allow their children to have the lateral flow tests.

[Witchcraftandhokum]

I'm really not looking to start a bunfight. Just tying to better understand the reasons if you are not planning on allowing your child to be tested.

I am happy they are opening now

Would like to see

Pcr testing of children with any symptoms including sore throat etc

More ventilation in classrooms where possible

Not sure about masks. Would like to see more evaluation done on best mask types etc. I won't refuse to consent though.

End to such extensive isolation of close contacts. Or at least to sending home half the year group.

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Results within 2-4 hours if it now possible to produce results in a test which has been proved very accurate. I was a Facilities Manager in schools for 40 Years and a school Governor for 35 years we used to organise Jabs for the school children which were mandatory and ran by the NHS and Local Council Health Workers and was completed in 6 hours we vaccinated 1100 children. We would use our sports hall and it was extremely well organized.

The PCR test takes about one third more time to complete The government have had plenty of time to organise Mobile Labs and convert Secondary school Labs to test Centres and they should have been doing this.

They have decided to do things on the cheap with the lateral flow test which was proved to be reliable in only 50% of tests in the Liverpool testing Pilot Scheme. The reason given was that it was not carried out by skilled Health Workers and not a crowd of Volunteers who would be parents and possibly some Teachers and Support Staff I think it is wrong and it could be so much better the government's Handling of this Pandemic in my opinion has cost many thousands of avoidable deaths. The evidence seems to point that Children if they get Covid get a mild form and death of a young person from is rare but we have forgotten that even Mild covid can leave young people with Long Covid. Also they should be provided with medical masks free of Charge as they do in France and also keep at least one metre away from each other which in most schools is impossible so they should be providing the means to keep their Distance otherwise there will be outbreaks.

Our children are so precious that they should be protected by the test which gives the Best Possible results. Also the government should practice what their Slogan says Hands face and Space but in schools they have not so far have any Space

No consent given here. If DD tests "positive", that's 4 adults in the house isolating along with her. Of those, only 1 gets sick pay. We had 3 isolation periods between September and December for her, all from close contact with people who were not ill but tested positive. I have no faith in the test.

What possible reason could anyone have for not allowing their child to be tested?! 🤷‍♀️

@Lulu49

What possible reason could anyone have for not allowing their child to be tested?! 🤷‍♀️

See the post directly above yours for one example!

@SpringHasSprung12 You should still take your child to get PCR tested if they have symptoms. That hasn't changed.

You'd rather continue to work with a positive family member in the house?
Where I am, if you test positive with lateral flow you then need to get a PCR to confirm. So yes household would need to isolate for the day/2 days/half day it would take to confirm or falsify.

@DonGray @RandomGrammarPun

That document seems to say confirmation pcr needed after home testing starts

It doesn't say what happens then. I assume if negative the legal obligation to isolate ends and close (or not so close) contacts come back to school. It isn't really clear.

@ChairinSage

No consent given here. If DD tests "positive", that's 4 adults in the house isolating along with her. Of those, only 1 gets sick pay. We had 3 isolation periods between September and December for her, all from close contact with people who were not ill but tested positive. I have no faith in the test.

What if one of your family subsequently passed it onto someone who became really sick, god forbid one of your family or colleagues needing hospital care ? I understand it’s tough financially but l couldn’t have that on my conscience.

@wildchild554 not read the entire thread but have you tried to book online?

@RubyViolet - passes what onto someone? If DD is not showing any symptoms, she's not ill. The number of false positives makes me suspicious of the test's reliability. If any of us were ill, we'd isolate

• whether that's with covid or flu or anything else - that goes without saying. My conscience is clear.

[quote Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum]@SpringHasSprung12 You should still take your child to get PCR tested if they have symptoms. That hasn't changed.[/quote]
A lot of children have stomach ache, vomiting, sore throat, headache, fatigue as symptoms but the only ones you are suppose to test for are temp, cough, lost of taste and smell.

I think it would be good if all newly unwell children were given a pcr test. Better than the lateral flow idea.

Reassured though to find that there will be pcr confirmation once the initial mass testing is over.

@QueenPaw book what a covid test? no, he had a home test because he can't cope with the medical environments given to him by school when he was ill before christmas and then he just couldnt cope with test itself.

@ChairinSage- You really are unbelievable- so if your dd catches it you'd rather not know and instead would allow her to continue going to school, spread to everyone she comes into contact with and and for yourselves to continue life as normal spreading it to all your colleagues as well! And why were people who were not ill getting tests before Christmas?

If DD is not showing any symptoms, she's not ill.

Just because someone isn’t ill doesn’t mean they can’t become ill or pass it on to someone else as most children are asymptomatic.

Mine are teenagers. So they will decide themselves. One is having vaccine next week, so I don’t care. GP’s have had vaccine.
So they will continue home learning if they have too. If it’s voluntary, it’s voluntary so they can say no. Otherwise it’s compulsory. I won’t be guilted it into it.

@wildchild554 I might have tagged the wrong person.. it was the post about you being CEV and waiting for a vaccine?
< scrolls back up to check >

@TinaYouFatLard

I am so far past caring what you sanctimonious lot think. I think lining up children, to stick swabs up their noses is a dehumanising process.

But hey, got to keep those case numbers up. Add to this the new symptoms (fatigue? headache? FFS) and we’ll be back up shits creek before we know it.

yep agreed , my dd had already said said shes not having the tests and at 12 yrs old i cant force her and why should i ?

@QueenPaw oh yeah probably was me no I was just pointing out I haven't been called up yet. I was going to wait till I have my appointment with the specialist first, I'm awaiting blood test results and also have severe allergies and reacted badly to flu vaccine when I had it both times so need to discuss it with them first anyway as I'm on my own with the kids and possibly sort out a back up plan for the kids which is diificult for one of them due to his SEN. GP wanted me in hospital last year because I was struggling to breath, not covid, but I refused to go because simply had no way of finding childcare for my autistic son and he eventually treated me best he could over the phone. Have very little help in place yet with him. So I have to be very cautious about it and in fact everything I do at the moment.

@QueenPaw just trying to make people aware not all vulnerable has been called up yet, my sister has heart failure she still hasnt been called up and my dad was last week and a friend 3 days ago. My friend is 58 and my dad is 69. My sister is 48 so i think they are focusing on the ages more so with who they call than just health conditions. Just on observation from what I've seen.

No haven’t consented I feel it’s overkill. Children who arent being tested are back to school as normal, I had to look into this on gov website as the letter from the school made it seem as if testing was mandatory.

@KatyR090909

Then it’s not lateral flow. I understand, those are terrible. However, I work in pharmaceuticals and I take a PCR (what you’ve described) 3 times a week. It’s not that big of a deal. But it does suck.

Every single reference I've seen to the tests, describes them as lateral flow - whether only nasal or nasal and throat swab - maybe they are being inaccurate, but it is what the tests are being called by schools/gov and Public Health England.

Nick Gibb confirmed today that masks and tests are not compulsory. www.itv.com/news/2021-02-25/covid-tests-and-face-masks-not-compulsory-but-recommended-at-schools-says-education-minister

A number of schools have stated that they haven’t been provided enough tests to carried out the required testing.

@Notestinghere

No haven’t consented I feel it’s overkill. Children who arent being tested are back to school as normal, I had to look into this on gov website as the letter from the school made it seem as if testing was mandatory.

Even if it is overkill, what harm do you feel it would do for them to be tested? And does that harm overlay the potential extra layer of safety?