Is anyone planning on refusing to allow their children to have the lateral flow tests.

[Witchcraftandhokum]

I'm really not looking to start a bunfight. Just tying to better understand the reasons if you are not planning on allowing your child to be tested.

@croci

What happens about the pupils who have had a vaccination.

Obviously I know there is a theoretical chance of transmission in someone vaccinated, but it is tiny and only theoretical.

My DS is CEV, had the vaccine, so what's the point of putting him through all this and taking up the school's capacity?

Could I just send them proof of vaccination?

You can still get covid after having the vaccination, it should be a mild case but in those circumstances you may be able to pass it on

Even the NHS have stopped enforcing the LFTs on their vaccinated staff.

My relative who is critical care nurse started off having to do 2 a week and send a photo of the result.

Now they have had at least one vaccine each, no-one is bothering about them any more.

My daughter will be having hers - it isn't the way anyone would choose to start the day but she'll be fine.

I was admitted to hospital in May with a life threatening condition and I was tested when admitted and then weekly from there. Even given my condition it was considered necessary to keep every patient and member of staff on the ward safe. It was fine - the nurse said if you gag then they've got the right spot!

You can still get covid after having the vaccination, it should be a mild case but in those circumstances you may be able to pass it on

I think it is more a case of the difficulty of proving a negative.

Policy is directed by evidence and it is hard to prove that something doesn't happen.

I don't think there is any evidence pointing to any troubling transmission from vaccinated people, especially wearing masks and asymptomatic.

btw I am not against LFTs - personally and IMHO I found them surprisingly easy and not uncomfortable, and I am a big fuss-pot. DS would cope fine.

Just thinking about wasting time and resources and saving someone some work etc.

It's a lateral flow test - meaning spitting into a dish/test tube. They have chosen it because it causes no pain - no intrusion. PCR is different. Get the test.

I have signed the consent forms our school sent out. However, the forms stated that if the child has tested +ive for Covid in the past three months (my DCs did at end December) then they won’t be tested as test likely to be +ive and therefore pointless.

(and saving me several 30 min car journeys back and forth in really crappy traffic for very little good reason, other than theoretical)

The LFTs we have do not involve spitting into anything! They are swabs

@KatyR090909 I think the lateral flow test is the cotton bud up nose and down throat test. I know the name is a bit misleading.

@KatyR090909

It's a lateral flow test - meaning spitting into a dish/test tube. They have chosen it because it causes no pain - no intrusion. PCR is different. Get the test.

At dds school it is a nasal and throat swab.

Yes, the LFTs I have taken a very thin bendy stick that I could hardly feel (I think it's the PCRs that have thick end like cotton bud)

@TinaYouFatLard

I am so far past caring what you sanctimonious lot think. I think lining up children, to stick swabs up their noses is a dehumanising process.

But hey, got to keep those case numbers up. Add to this the new symptoms (fatigue? headache? FFS) and we’ll be back up shits creek before we know it.

I take it you haven't experienced covid? Lost someone to covid ? Lateral flow test are done at home so no lining up of kids

@croci

You can still get covid after having the vaccination, it should be a mild case but in those circumstances you may be able to pass it on

I think it is more a case of the difficulty of proving a negative.

Policy is directed by evidence and it is hard to prove that something doesn't happen.

I don't think there is any evidence pointing to any troubling transmission from vaccinated people, especially wearing masks and asymptomatic.

There is certainly evidence that they reduce transmission. However I know a few people who have got covid after being vaccinated. If you’ve got covid you can almost certainly pass it on. I suspect it’s a lot less likely as the viral load is generally lower. Also not everyone responds to the vaccination. So on a population basis there will be less transmission, however as an individual you may not have responded to the vaccine at all, you may have a milder form of covid, you should not presume that you can’t pass it on

@Sleepthief I think that ANY child that isn't taking the lateral test should stay home, not specifically SEN kids.

Today 18:02 FenceSplinters

I spoke to the parent of a child in my school today, who said she wouldn’t be giving permission for her son to have the tests. She said it wouldn’t be fair for him to miss school if he was asymptomatic. 🤷🏻‍♀️“

Jesus H Christ. I wish we had a vaccine for stupid.

Only school staff who have are in the relevant groups have been vaccinated. Most staff and children will not have been vaccinated by the time they return to school.

Schools are already reporting that they have not been given anywhere near enough tests to test all children.

The instructions sent in January were for a proper swab of tonsils and high in the nose. Different to the NHS ones, who know what has actually been sent to schools!
The instructions say you are under an obligation to report to senco every Wednesday and Sunday. Is that meant to be through school holidays too? Did I read correctly that if PCR is negative they still have to isolate and that a positive LFT means 10 days isolation in any circumstances? If so I need to check the false positive rate as that means the entire family isolating for 10 days

Jesus H Christ. I wish we had a vaccine for stupid

@Whatisthisfuckery

I won’t be giving consent to test my child, and as far as I’m concerned I don’t owe anybody any justification for my decision.

Fine. We'll just assume that you think it's a trick so that Bill Gates can insert a chip and your child can be monitored using the magic 5G beams.

I see some people here with genuine reasons why it might be tricky for their child and that's fair enough.

I’ve signed the permission form but it does state he can refuse on the day and that they won’t be sent home or not allowed in so who knows if he will actually do it.

Bill Gates and his microchip is going to be the next Godwin's Law isn't he? You cannot show any reservations or dissent about Coronavirus, testing, asymptomatic spread or vaccines without being accused of believing Bill Gates is microchipping us. It's just a way to close down discussion.

@DenisetheMenace

Today 18:02 FenceSplinters

I spoke to the parent of a child in my school today, who said she wouldn’t be giving permission for her son to have the tests. She said it wouldn’t be fair for him to miss school if he was asymptomatic. 🤷🏻‍♀️“

Jesus H Christ. I wish we had a vaccine for stupid.

Yes we all wish there was a vaccine for stupid. Guess who would be first in line for it?

@TinaYouFatLard

My children cannot and I do not consent to any regular, invasive and dehumanising procedures to be carried out on my perfectly healthy children.

If they show any sign at all of illness, then I would test.

Dehumanising - hilarious!!!

Get off your high horse, you silly woman.

My children will be tested.
For them, for their friends, for their teachers.
We are in this together and we all have a responsibility to each other.
You cannot expect school staff to risk their health if your kid can’t stand 15 seconds of discomfort.
Don’t do the tests, stay at home.
Simple.
I also think primary kids should be tested weekly.