Is anyone planning on refusing to allow their children to have the lateral flow tests.

[Witchcraftandhokum]

I'm really not looking to start a bunfight. Just tying to better understand the reasons if you are not planning on allowing your child to be tested.

I think if children can then they should. Obviously SEN aside. Teaches them how to be a positive and helpful member of society. Surely most children would rather help to keep their friends and teachers safe as well. My children are too young but if they were asked to do it to keep schools open and people they care about safe then I would, because I'm bringing them up to think of others.

I don't think we're going to bother to fill in the consent form. It's up to younger teen DS if he consents, otherwise. Older DS says he consented months ago so that's sorted.

I don't want to write down reasons because people just make personal attacks in their replies.

I agree it wasn't pleasant what I said but it was a bit dramatic saying it made your eyes water and that was a reason not to have it. I say this as someone who is tested twice a week and yes it makes my eyes water but so too does plucking my eyebrows.

And I did not say that my personal experience was a reason not to have it! MORE twisting and putting words into someone's mouth that are not there! I simply stated my experience. It did happen to me, as dramatic as you think that is, guess I could do like you and accuse you of calling me a liar.

You got personal and nasty and have carried on twisting and making up words that are not there and tbh I wish this place had an ignore and block poster because you're unpleasant and personal, you made it personal right away.

No longer listening to your manipulation of things that I didn't say.

Works well IRL, your tactics, you'd end up with a nosebleed alright if you had the balls to bully people like that to their faces.

I would end up with a nosebleed - from what then? angry words back?

One is to prevent a disease, the other is a test, noble. That's a non-comparison . But you can't see that because you're trying to push an agenda. Thank you for playing, please try again.

Oh don't be so bloody obtuse. The whole point of testing is to diagnose the asymptomatic carriers do the rest of the staff/children don't catch the disease. Can't you see that?

No test for my kids. No thank you.

@scamander will you be continuing to homeschool then?

@toocold54

No test for my kids. No thank you.

@scamander will you be continuing to homeschool then?

Children who aren’t tested don’t have to be home schooled. Whether or not people agree, testing is voluntary for children and school staff

From someone who might not take your sneery sarcasm in response to their stating what happened to them in real life. Not me personally, then I'd use 'I' or a personal pronoun. But it's something to keep in mind when you're going keyboard warrior and immediately pounce on someone with insults. But again, I have enough in real life of petty arguments with my son, I don't need them on here from you. So off you go. I'm using my own ignore function and quite sick of making this all about you. It isn't.

Oh don't be so bloody obtuse. The whole point of testing is to diagnose the asymptomatic carriers do the rest of the staff/children don't catch the disease. Can't you see that?

It's not the same as a vaccine. Can't you see that?

No problem with ds having them he has had a couple now and can do it himself.

FWIW... I’ve asked if I’m allowed to continue to homeschool if my son is refusing the test, the answer was no and test is voluntary.
So those telling us we have to do “our bit”, are mistaken. Tell the government to fund the people who are clinically extremely vulnerable to shield fully paid. It would make sense for them to work from home until fully vaccinated.

There’s no need to point fingers at people whose children refuse a VOLUNTARY test.
I’d back schools to continue remote learning for children who are unable to perform the test. 100%.

As for personal attacks on anyone, regardless of their opinion - wow. I hope you sleep well at night.

I think it means they don't give a toss about anyone else and transmitting the virus, personally, because it would inconvenience them to keep their children at home for (yet more) isolation periods.

Well if that's the case it could backfire if child is a close contact of a positive case as no negative test will no doubt equal having to self isolate whilst those with negative tests remain at school

I was unsure when I read the plans before Christmas, but the most recent info from the school clarified that the tests won't replace isolation of close contacts. I'm much happier to give consent on that basis.

Don’t get the refuseniks at all, it’s just a simple test to everyone’s benefit.

Well I do get them - they are neurotic obviously - but testing apart it’s a pity that this neuroticism will likely get passed down to their kids.

@TinaYouFatLard

Thank you for demonstrating perfectly why we are still struggling to bet this pandemic.

Please keep your keep at home as well

I've emailed DS college. He has asd and a physical disability and group 6 and waiting for vaccine.

I've asked for appointment at certain time or for them to be sent home so I can administer it.

They'll be a number of children who would have test with support and I think school will work with parents if you work with them.

I can understand why some people genuinely can't have them. As I said we agreed as a staff body not to request consent for our cohort of pupils with sld and pmld and for us to test frequently ourselves to manage it as best we can.

I certainly explained to ds the reason for the tests, consequences of mass testing and rationale behind it. I'm proud he's decided to do something he'd find difficult and wanted to me to help find a way he could do it.

And I agree those who refuse on no basis what so ever should choose to homeschool. The same I think parents who send in symptomatic pupils or pupils waiting for results should be fined (a lot!)

My daughter has a genuine phobia of vomiting/gagging and she usually faints in those situations, I’ve consented but there was a section on the form to explain why testing might not go ahead smoothly, the way her school worded it made it seem compulsory

I think some people that are saying no to consenting might find their teenagers disagree. Especially when school returns.

I know at our school mask wearing become a thing the majority did. This was because some felt a social responsibility to protect their fellow students and staff. Others followed this example.

When a child was stupid enough to let it know he came to school whilst waiting for a test. Well half his year group went nuts. Parents had to delete his social media because he was getting so much hassle.

Teenagers know what is happening in the world. Most have elderly or vulnerable relatives. Often people in their own households. They want this over with as much as anyone else. I think most would think this discussion is crazy and say to just consent. It really is a no brainer unless your child is sen.

@toocold54

No test for my kids. No thank you.

@scamander will you be continuing to homeschool then?

Ha! They'll continue to attend school like every other child

You won't be able to have the home tests unless you consent to the first three in- school tests, under current policy. This is because the first three are supervised tests into the child gets the hang of it, before taking the tests home. It's a safety measure the schools all have to comply with as part of their liability, so they can't just hand out the home tests to pupils instead. They can ask pupils to come in before 8 March, but can't enforce it - so if you refuse to allow them in before 8 March, their first on site test will be after that date.

@Vallmo47

FWIW... I’ve asked if I’m allowed to continue to homeschool if my son is refusing the test, the answer was no and test is voluntary. So those telling us we have to do “our bit”, are mistaken. Tell the government to fund the people who are clinically extremely vulnerable to shield fully paid. It would make sense for them to work from home until fully vaccinated.

There’s no need to point fingers at people whose children refuse a VOLUNTARY test.
I’d back schools to continue remote learning for children who are unable to perform the test. 100%.

As for personal attacks on anyone, regardless of their opinion - wow. I hope you sleep well at night.

‘tell the government to fund the CRV to shield at home fully paid...’

@Vallmo47 - another of the ‘money grows on trees’ brigade - excellent! - because of course the pandemic hasn’t been expensive at all, and that expense isn’t going to have hideous knock on effects without us adding to it unnecessarily....

WTF / 🙄 / 🤷‍♀️ / 😂

@Fembot123

My daughter has a genuine phobia of vomiting/gagging and she usually faints in those situations, I’ve consented but there was a section on the form to explain why testing might not go ahead smoothly, the way her school worded it made it seem compulsory

It’s encouraged but it’s voluntary for both children and school staff

I think a number of employers can now ask for tests for their employees.

I will be consenting for ds1 to be tested. However, he has additional needs and is extremely anxious about it all so whether he actually has the tests done remains to be seen. The school can't force him and neither can I. He's had a test before due to symptoms and it was traumatic for everyone involved. I do want him to be in school and I know that he should be tested.

Thanks @Jamboree01, I’d like her to give it a go. I’m not sure if there’s any scope for just doing a nose swab rather than a throat one as that would help.