Is anyone planning on refusing to allow their children to have the lateral flow tests.

[Witchcraftandhokum]

I'm really not looking to start a bunfight. Just tying to better understand the reasons if you are not planning on allowing your child to be tested.

It’s up to my sixth former to consent to this so I will leave it to him. He would still be allowed in school if he doesn’t give his consent.

How many employers are having to ask staff to consent to twice weekly lateral flow tests? Very few. It’s typical to pick on the younger generation once again as if they are the only ones who transmit it!

I genuinely don't get why people wouldn't consent?

Being part of a collective national effort to open up education again and keep numbers within control is surely part of being a responsible citizen.

I wonder if all those "I won't consent and won't justify why not" people would still expect equal access to healthcare if they caught it? Not willing to help stop the spread but want equality when it does

Of course children who have SEN, sensory issues, MH issues that make them frightened of the test should not be forced.

But parents with NT non-anxious kids who believe in principle that their kids must not be invaded / dehumanised etc through a test need to carry on homeschooling, IMO.

You have no right to risk illness and anxiety about getting infected in others. IMHO.

Nah. I think we're at the point now where you should homeschool if you won't test and you can't give a good reason why. Same as masks. The option is there now with oak academy. I have come to think same about all vaccinations and schools too.

Completely agree!

I bet those that complain about their DCs having the test will be the first to complain if they had to isolate due to a child in their DCs class passing it on.

rawalpindithelabrador

Look up the definition of bullying please and if you read my last post I said aside from SEN....so crack on with your lame attempts when you've no idea what bullying means! ha ha!

@rawalpindithelabrador I do it twice a week, it's no biggie. Obviously if someone has sensory issues or something that would be more challenging. I have no idea of your personal circumstances, I was talking generally. It seems to me parents saying to their kids, no don't get tested for a medical condition that may have long term ramifications for their child's attitude towards medical tests in the future, eg smears. Not what I would want for my kids, but each to their own (except in a highly contagious virus then it seems a bit more selfish...)

How many employers are having to ask staff to consent to twice weekly lateral flow tests? Very few. It’s typical to pick on the younger generation once again as if they are the only ones who transmit it!

Everyone I know who works in a school need to have it done at least once a week.

@Awalkintime

rawalpindithelabrador

Look up the definition of bullying please and if you read my last post I said aside from SEN....so crack on with your lame attempts when you've no idea what bullying means! ha ha!

Crack on with your lame attempts to minimise, sneer at and patronise people who shared their experience of the test . Great job! Haha.

rawalpindithelabrador

Crack on with your attempts to threaten someone with ASD.

@rawalpindithelabrador

"Because the person personally is old enough to consent and does not want the procedure on themselves . Same way, some women opt out of smear tests. As you can with any procedure you don't want on your body."

So, just the same as the children in school also can opt out of testing (even if their parent/care has given consent). Not a single child can be or will be MADE to do the test. Parents initially give consent for those under 16, then on the day in school the children have the option of doing it or not and if they don't want to, they don't. Simples!

Mine will be doing it. They don't like them at all but they know they've got to suck it up to get back to normal.

I've had the pcr test and it was with a cotton bud sized testing bit and I found it uncomfortable

The flow test is a very thin brush thing and way more comfortable intact I didn't even feel it go in my nose it was a tiny tickle

Its not bad what so ever so don't worry about you children finding it uncomfortable because they won't.

@Awalkintime

rawalpindithelabrador

Crack on with your attempts to threaten someone with ASD.

Threaten? Oh, please! I shared my experience of the test and you immediately got personal with an ugly retort. I doubt you'd do that to someone's face but find it acceptable on here. How was anyone to know if a poster has ASD unless they use it in their signature. At any rate, I try hard to teach my son not to reply like you did in real life because it can lead to someone responding in a very unpleasant way. But carry on with your agenda. 0/10 but you'll get there.

How many employers are having to ask staff to consent to twice weekly lateral flow tests? Very few. It’s typical to pick on the younger generation once again as if they are the only ones who transmit it!
Nhs workers / care workers the teachers themselves , I would be more than happy if my employer paid for me to be tested twice weekly then if I get it , I can isolate an try and keep others safe

@toocold54

How many employers are having to ask staff to consent to twice weekly lateral flow tests? Very few. It’s typical to pick on the younger generation once again as if they are the only ones who transmit it!

Everyone I know who works in a school need to have it done at least once a week.

The testing of school staff is also voluntary. Not all are being tested as some choose not to be.

rawalpindithelabrador

You threatened to break my nose.

How was anyone to know? You don't but it was quite interesting to see you suddenly put your child into the mix when that wasn't even what I commented on and had previously said SEN aside. However, you chose to ignore that fact and use that as a reason to justify making threats towards someone who themselves has SEN.

Works well IRL, your tactics, you'd end up with a nosebleed alright if you had the balls to bully people like that to their faces.

I agree it wasn't pleasant what I said but it was a bit dramatic saying it made your eyes water and that was a reason not to have it. I say this as someone who is tested twice a week and yes it makes my eyes water but so too does plucking my eyebrows.

Yes, voluntary tests often mean more people are tested. It is one reason the UK has one of the most taken up vaccination programmes now and in the past on the planet because it is voluntary.

@toocold54

How many employers are having to ask staff to consent to twice weekly lateral flow tests? Very few. It’s typical to pick on the younger generation once again as if they are the only ones who transmit it!

Everyone I know who works in a school need to have it done at least once a week.

I work in a school and do it on the weekly testing.

It's a special school and none of our children have been asked to. Heads decision and agreed with staff on consultation with us.

So therefore as staff we do it frequently as we trust it's our duty.

Can't say I look forward to swabbing mh throat and nose frequently but if it keeps our kids in school I'll keep going!

@Iootraw1

How many employers are having to ask staff to consent to twice weekly lateral flow tests? Very few. It’s typical to pick on the younger generation once again as if they are the only ones who transmit it!

Healthcare staff School staff Nursery/early years staff

Relax fellow posters. Antagonistic personal attack tennis posts makes for unpleasant total sum loss reading and does not paint antagonists in a favourable light. I am sure you are wonderful mothers so don't get heated in an online chat with strangers.

Chill it's just a Covid risk mitigation measure (combined with all others) that is scientifically right to try to balance the benefits of fully reopening certain activities balanced against alternatives of blended or home schooling etc. We are trying to find ways to do things in a pandemic that may also save lives.

No one is asking for an swab up your bum (yes that's a thing in some parts overseas!) but just a swab in the nose etc which even my young child has been doing frequently over the past year. There is an ongoing pandemic medical war. This is hopefully once in a hundred years but our economy has suffered worst since records began economic damage and NHS overwhelmed with so far 0.1+million excess fatalities lost. This is very very serious and not usual times and so specific measures needs to implemented to save lives and livelihoods.

However if your child is vulnerable medically or socially/mentally and cannot for physical or mental reasons be tested then naturally there should be exceptions and alternative specific provisions to cater specifically for this unique cohort. However as with non mask wearing exemption this does not scientifically mean exemption from Covid infection nor onwards transmission particularly much asymptomatic. If you don't test while the pandemic is ongoing - you are more likely to be a part of the cause rather than a part of the solution. We are all in this together as what you do or don't do directly impacts those in your proximity and neighbourhood. This is then exacerbated to the local, provincial and national level.

Let's try to get on to new normal so test test test (unless you can't!).

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No test for my kids. No thank you.

Mine don't want them. I don't really have any control over that. Their body, their choice.

Testing of staff in schools is on a voluntary basis so not all staff in all schools will be getting tested.

You threatened to break my nose.

NO, I did NOT. I said people might not take your comments like that well and respond accordingly. That is NOT telling you I would break your nose. So give over! My son has ASD and I have to teach him to be very careful of making retorts like yours to people in real life because that type of thing doesn't go over well with people.