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If they open up schools all at once, I'm done with every other precaution

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BettyBoomerang · 21/02/2021 23:21

If the 'leak' is true and they are stupid enough to open up all schools to all kids at the same time (thus leading to uncontrolled transmission of variants and increased risk of vaccine escape, further lockdowns and a redo of the vaccination programme) then I'm done with any kind of compliance.

I'm not staying at home like a fucking stupid sitting duck, waiting for my kids to come home with Covid anymore. The kids can see their friends, have sleepovers and we'll go out and about and visit friends and relatives and do the maximum we can.

You can pile in and call me selfish or whatever - I genuinely don't care anymore. I'm not putting my life on hold just for the government to fuck the recovery up again. I'm the most compliant of pretty much everyone I know but this is it for me, and many others I suspect (most of whom are already doing way more than me). If it's safe for my kids to go to school, then everything is safe.

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gigity · 22/02/2021 00:05

But it's not okay to come to a thread where someone is obviously struggling and beat her up.

Bit dramatic....

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BettyBoomerang · 22/02/2021 00:06

I'll be interested to see the announcement tomorrow but it does sound like a done deal.

Even the phrase 'Big Bang' is so offensive. But I'm not sitting at home while my family participates in the Big Bang festival.

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gigity · 22/02/2021 00:07

🙄

MrsHamlet · 22/02/2021 00:08

@gigity

But it's not okay to come to a thread where someone is obviously struggling and beat her up.

Bit dramatic....

Is it? Look at how some posters have spoken to her.
gigity · 22/02/2021 00:09

I don't see it as akin to being beaten up.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 22/02/2021 00:10

@TableFlowerss

*All the vulnerable ARE NOT vaccinated yet*

So why are the banging on about all the vulnerable groups being vaccinated and now they’re moving on to younger people?

By the 8th Match hopefully they all will be!

They need to be vaccinated + 3 weeks for immunity though. Which means they all need to have been vaccinated by last Monday.
ineedaholidaynow · 22/02/2021 00:10

All vulnerable people aren't vaccinated yet. They can't all be vaccinated and have the 21 day period for immunisation to take effect by 8th March. A large amount of people in hospital currently with COVID are not in the groups that have now been vaccinated, they are group 6 which have just started to be vaccinated in some areas. Many parents and teachers will be in group 6 and not vaccinated when schools go back en masse. How can this be sensible?

everythingisstillginandroses · 22/02/2021 00:11

'Big bang'. What a total load of arse.

Downthefarm · 22/02/2021 00:12

The odd thing is that the Kings app -the Zoe app-says that in the last week new cases have stopped dropping and R rate is near to 0.9

snowballer · 22/02/2021 00:12

Prioritising schools is the right thing to do and I'm so pleased it's all in and not leaving some/most year groups behind.

Plenty of other posters have pointed this out but in order to prioritise schools, the rest of the restrictions have to stay in place. FFS if everyone says "fuck it, if my kids can mingle then so can I" then that's where we'd be in trouble, and that would be the one and only time I'd support the government saying to the mingling general public "it's your own stupid fault, you colossal fools."

Pastanred · 22/02/2021 00:13

Op do as you choose

People have sacrificed enough. The at risk (not those who perceive they’re at risk) will be vaccinated by then. The worried well should stay at home. We have sacrificed enough. This has to stop.

Pandapotato · 22/02/2021 00:13

@BettyBoomerang
“But it makes no sense anymore. I exist too. If it's OK for members of my household to attend group social gatherings every day then why is it not ok for me? Especially if the people I gather with are also gathering with the other people that my household members are gathering with?!”

Because our children’s education is more important than your need to keep up with the Jones’s.
They think we can afford some transition - so schools are opening. Every contact is a chance for transmission. Adults just need to be adults and wait a bit longer for a fucking coffee date so that kids can go to school.
But they won’t, and we will be back to sqare Ond

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BettyBoomerang · 22/02/2021 00:13

Thank you @MrsHamlet I think this is just how Mumsnet goes but I do appreciate the support.

I'm literally just saying 'I'll do what everyone did last time'. Yes my 'everyone' is anecdotal and I'm sure there are people who've been as careful as me who will carry on being careful, but I genuinely have hit a wall of sudden realisation. What's the point? I have several kids in several classes, who will encounter around 100 others a day. There's little point in me sitting home like a goody two shoes anymore. Besides, the government must know how much mixing goes on when schools are open so I'm sure they've factored it in. (Maybe!)

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PADH · 22/02/2021 00:14

@Violetlavenders

I'm happy to sacrifice the option to mix more as an adult, to give our society's limited capacity for increased infection to our children. The government has treated them utterly shamefully throughout the last year. Schools definitely should be the first things to open. Haircuts and coffees with your friends can wait.

I agree.

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Pandapotato · 22/02/2021 00:14

*square one & it will all be blamed on schools and not ok the supposed adults who can’t understand the concept of putting children first.

Pastanred · 22/02/2021 00:14

Whilst group 6 may not be fully vaccinated, 90% deaths are in the groups 1-4

We are not going for zero deaths we are jus managing nhs

catsarecute · 22/02/2021 00:15

I'm vulnerable - group 6 and won't be vaccinated by 8th March, let alone vaccinated +3 weeks.

This government are fucking nuts. I feel sick.

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BettyBoomerang · 22/02/2021 00:15

@snowballer

Prioritising schools is the right thing to do and I'm so pleased it's all in and not leaving some/most year groups behind.

Plenty of other posters have pointed this out but in order to prioritise schools, the rest of the restrictions have to stay in place. FFS if everyone says "fuck it, if my kids can mingle then so can I" then that's where we'd be in trouble, and that would be the one and only time I'd support the government saying to the mingling general public "it's your own stupid fault, you colossal fools."

This is what will happen anyway though. My only choice is whether to sit at home like a muppet and let it happen to me or actually have my life back. The end result will be the same.
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Bagamoyo1 · 22/02/2021 00:15

Opening schools but keeping other restrictions is to minimise risk, whilst allowing things that are considered important.

It’s like buying Diet Coke with your Haagen Dazs ice cream. You drink the calorie-free drink, in order that you can allow yourself to high-calorie ice cream.

I’m happy to sacrifice my own social life a bit longer, to enable my kids to go back to school.

Violetlavenders · 22/02/2021 00:16

Plenty of other posters have pointed this out but in order to prioritise schools, the rest of the restrictions have to stay in place. FFS if everyone says "fuck it, if my kids can mingle then so can I" then that's where we'd be in trouble, and that would be the one and only time I'd support the government saying to the mingling general public "it's your own stupid fault, you colossal fools."

This. And I don't see why that's difficult to understand!

TableFlowerss · 22/02/2021 00:17

@Pastanred

Whilst group 6 may not be fully vaccinated, 90% deaths are in the groups 1-4

We are not going for zero deaths we are jus managing nhs

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Pieceofpurplesky · 22/02/2021 00:17

Tableflowers I am over 50, asthmatic , overweight and a full time teacher as well as a carer for elderly parents (diabetic and heart condition). I haven't had my vaccination and my surgery tell me they are starting the next band in a week - so even if I get mine on day one (which is highly unlikely) I will still have 14 days with 32 x 6 kids every day.
So no, not all vulnerable have been done

DenisetheMenace · 22/02/2021 00:18

I know you know you’re just being daft and sounding off because you’re angry.

Because your kids will be going back, you need to be careful with everything else until more people are vaccinated. You know that already though.

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BettyBoomerang · 22/02/2021 00:19

I just 100% don't believe that if I stay at home, like I have so far, that everyone else will do the same. I know how much mixing went on amongst my kids' friends and other families. Plenty of them are mixing now and schools aren't even back yet - they'll be all over it once they get what they see as the green light from the government.

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EasterIssland · 22/02/2021 00:20

“ The end result will be the same.”
Apart from you might catch it because you met with that friend whose child is gone back to school as well and got it without having symptoms. You might get quite ill and need a ventilator. But it’s better that than being at home like a muppet.

Or ... we all follow guidelines and stay at home like a muppet and there is no new lockdown in spring and we can all go and have fun in the hairdresser or the pub or travelling abroad or r staying at home like a muppets.

My son is going to nursery. I still am following guidelines even if it’s killing me mentally. But I want this to be over and don’t want to feel that I am responsible foe the current situation