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WarriorN · 22/02/2021 07:12

Xenia, maybe you have Eyam genes.

WarriorN · 22/02/2021 07:18

Dh is snorting that boots stuff as he knows he won't be getting the jab for some time.

Although, ironically, he caught a little cold recently from the toddler that I, bf and co sleeping with, did not...

I do feel different this year after religiously taking more. I started taking cod liver oil too which has a bit in it along with vit a as I'm bf, but my parents swear their joints are good due to taking that since the 70's.

WarriorN · 22/02/2021 08:01

Nhs/ DFH: babies

The Department of Health recommends that:
• Babies from birth to 1 year of age who are being breastfed should be given a daily supplement containing 8.5 to 10 micrograms (µg) of vitamin D to make sure they get enough. This is whether or not you're taking a supplement containing vitamin D yourself.
• Babies fed infant formula shouldn't be given a vitamin D supplement if they're having more than 500ml (about a pint) of infant formula a day, because infant formula is fortified with vitamin D and other nutrients.
• Children aged 1 to 4 years old should be given a daily supplement containing 10µg of vitamin D.

alreadytaken · 22/02/2021 11:30

The lancet editorial thinks different rules should apply in a time of crisis www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(21)00003-6/fulltext

Apparently Andalucia didnt wait - and appear to be seeing the benefit www.nutraingredients.com/Article/2021/02/08/UK-PM-urged-Look-to-Andalusia-s-vit-D-use-for-COVID-19

Worknoplay · 22/02/2021 11:47

I didn't think there was ever a suggestion that vit D was a cure.

It can lower the odds of getting a severe infection if you have covid, but it doesn't treat it. The research has never been clear cut, it's not a cure-it-all. But some studies have clearly made a link between vitamin d deficiency and severe infection/pneumonia caused by the flu.

SugarfreeBlitz · 22/02/2021 13:17

I did read a (SAGE report commissioned by the government) that said a lack of vitamin D could contribute to increased risk of illness (but I cant find the study now) I also think that many BAME deaths could have been avoided if it is the case because darker skins need more Vit D. If that's the case, the government's misinformation is devastatingly shocking.

RedMarauder · 22/02/2021 13:49

@WarriorN people's immune systems aren't the same. So it isn't surprising that your DH got a cold and you didn't even if you had more exposure to your toddler.

Parker231 · 22/02/2021 14:15

The advice has always been to take a supplement in the winter months.

WarriorN · 22/02/2021 17:04

[quote RedMarauder]@WarriorN people's immune systems aren't the same. So it isn't surprising that your DH got a cold and you didn't even if you had more exposure to your toddler.[/quote]

As an sen teacher I've definitely had more exposure over the years!

DianaT1969 · 22/02/2021 18:30

@Parker231 - unfortunately the advice to take a supplement I'm winter months is woefully inadequate. They recommend 400iu daily, which won't lift anyone's levels out of deficiency.
Combined with more people using sunblock in summer and staying out of the sun, certain groups covered up in clothes all year round for religious reasons, and elderly people not getting out much in the summer - telling people to take a paltry 400iu in winter is inept. To not change the guidance during a pandemic is more than inept.

CherryBlossomOsaka · 25/02/2021 15:05

An open-label randomized study of 87 vitamin D deficient hospitalized Covid patients found that vitamin D supplementation (60,000 IU/day for 8-10 days) lowered inflammatory biomarkers.

Inflammatory biomarkers are compounds in the bloodstream which are excessive during cytokine storms.

Therapeutic improvement in vitamin D to 80-100 ng/ml has significantly reduced the inflammatory markers associated with COVID-19 without any side effects. Hence, adjunctive Pulse D therapy can be added safely to the existing treatment protocols of COVID-19 for improved outcomes.

www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-152494/v1

All hospitals should be using this protocol - Dr Quinton is successfully using this type of protocol in Newcastle Hospital which is the second best performing England covid 19 hospital.

This is the 30th replication of these types of results in a worldwide study. You can add it onto the pile of approx 60 positive studies on vit d3/UV/deficiency.

It's not a double blind RCT, but who would want to be a deficient D3 patient in a placebo arm of a RCT study?

Fortherosesjoni70 · 25/02/2021 15:39

@bobbiester

The much talked about Nogués et al preprint on "Calcifediol Treatment and COVID-19-Related Outcomes" - where they claimed to have randomly allocated patients to either receive Vitamin D or not - has been taken down by The Lancet...

papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3771318

"We have removed this preprint due to concerns about the description of the research in this paper. This has led us to initiate an investigation into this study."

As I've said in another thread - I'm taking loads of vitamin D - but the evidence that it's an effective treatment for COVID-19 is still lacking.

So book your vaccines folks - it's the one thing you can stick into your body that has been shown to substantially reduce your risk of getting ill from COVID-19!!

Its not a cure. Why not take it any way? We all lack it anyway. I don't know anything about the research but can't read it now anyway. I will continue to take it.

Fortherosesjoni70 · 25/02/2021 15:41

@SugarfreeBlitz

I did read a (SAGE report commissioned by the government) that said a lack of vitamin D could contribute to increased risk of illness (but I cant find the study now) I also think that many BAME deaths could have been avoided if it is the case because darker skins need more Vit D. If that's the case, the government's misinformation is devastatingly shocking.

And this. I will continue with it. Definitely no substitute for the vaccine and never was.

Original poster

bobbiester · 09/03/2021 18:13

Two new studies described here...

Vitamin D supplements may offer no Covid benefits, data suggests
www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/09/vitamin-d-supplements-may-offer-no-covid-benefits-data-suggests

OP posts:

Nousernamesleftatall · 09/03/2021 18:24

May offer no benefits so it might. I started taking it last year and feel so much better. No harm to take it.

Weird post. As another poster said it sounds like government coms.

notrub · 09/03/2021 18:33

@bobbiester

The much talked about Nogués et al preprint on "Calcifediol Treatment and COVID-19-Related Outcomes" - where they claimed to have randomly allocated patients to either receive Vitamin D or not - has been taken down by The Lancet...

papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3771318

"We have removed this preprint due to concerns about the description of the research in this paper. This has led us to initiate an investigation into this study."

As I've said in another thread - I'm taking loads of vitamin D - but the evidence that it's an effective treatment for COVID-19 is still lacking.

So book your vaccines folks - it's the one thing you can stick into your body that has been shown to substantially reduce your risk of getting ill from COVID-19!!

There's no earthly reason why Vit D WOULD work - and if you're taking "loads" you need to be careful not to overdose!

What we know about Vit D is that it plays a part in the immune system, so Vit D DEFICIENCY is thought to perhaps play a part in covid-19 susceptibility - indeed this may be a factor in things like flu being seasonal as in summer our Vit D levels are higher... but that's speculation.

The key thing is to make sure you don't have a deficiency of any vitamin, but think of vitamins and minerals like oil in your car. There's a level you need for the engine to work, below this and bad things start happening. Too much and bad things start happening. There is no benefit at all to having MORE than the required amount.

SugarfreeBlitz · 09/03/2021 19:57

I've seen actual papers that prove that Vitamin D is in fact good for your immune system but I think they have been removed because I can't fnd them now.

Are you sure you don't work for the government?

HSHorror · 09/03/2021 21:39

Fact is a scientist suggested before covid our food should be fortified with vit d. Because the cost was tiny and the illnesses it would prevent would be significant

Even if nothing else vit d has been implicated in MS.

And has an affect on blood sugar.