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No school for us til 9th April at the earliest. Royally fucked off now.

725 replies

WeAreFromThePlanetDuplo · 18/02/2021 17:30

Announcement just made for NI that most kids won't be going back to school until after the Easter holidays, and there's no guarantee of that. So fed up.

OP posts:
Watchingbehindmyhands · 18/02/2021 21:07

Any vunerable child should be allowed to be homeschooled if parents wish

This again. Vulnerable children have a right to be educated alongside their non-vulnerable peers in as safe an environment as is possible. Currently, there are next to no mitigation’s taking place in schools and as such, they are not even vaguely safe environments for the vulnerable. Why should vulnerable children be denied an education and cut off from their friendships? We keep talking about rights and mental health so what about the rights and mental health of vulnerable children?

Huginamugg · 18/02/2021 21:08

@peachgreen

All NI hospitals bar are at 97% or above capacity. Most of them are above 100%. DH was admitted to hospital (not with Covid) in September, between lockdowns, when things were about at their best. Even then staff were pretty overwhelmed and DH had to wait for 2 days in a theatre for an ICU bed. In October he went to A&E with irregular heart rhythms. There was no room for him to be admitted so they made him a further outpatient appointment. He died two days later. If he had been in hospital he might have survived. Who knows. It's not just about Covid cases. It's about the health system being unable to cope. Sorry if that means kids have to stay at home for another 3 weeks, or even 3 months. It sucks, but it's temporary. My DD doesn't ever get her Daddy back. And there are many more like her out there.
I'm so sorry about your husband Peachgreen I read your story a few weeks ago. I realise you have been through so much, so our offloading does seem a bit ott.

We are just using this place to let off a bit of steam.

Fembot123 · 18/02/2021 21:08

@Mummy195

Around 1000 deaths per day, (not per month/ week, but per day) from an infectious disease that can be brought down sounds like people dying like flies to me. That death is permanent.

I would rather sacrifice a few more weeks/ months of being 'fed up' , than have that unforgiving death.

Where?
gallbladderpain · 18/02/2021 21:08

Perhaps i'm just not full of negativity !
Be positive for the kids sake if nothing else. Everyone knows it's a shit situation, it is shit for everyone but there is nothing we can do to change that right now, the decisions are not in our hands so try to get some enjoyment with the children !

peachgreen · 18/02/2021 21:11

@Huginamugg Don't get me wrong, I do get it - in desperate for DD to get some normality and for me to be able to get some support from friends etc. But I just know what the consequences are of restrictions being lifted too soon and it's not as straightforward as some people seem to suggest. The survival rate from Covid isn't the only figure that needs to be taken into account. And it also needs to be remembered that it's low BECAUSE hospitals are able to treat these patients.

HauntedPencil · 18/02/2021 21:11

@gallbladderpain

Perhaps i'm just not full of negativity ! Be positive for the kids sake if nothing else. Everyone knows it's a shit situation, it is shit for everyone but there is nothing we can do to change that right now, the decisions are not in our hands so try to get some enjoyment with the children !
What makes you think I am being negative to mu children? That's really rude. I'm chewing the fat on an adults only parenting forum!

Honestly what an idiotic and patronising comment.

gallbladderpain · 18/02/2021 21:11

@Watchingbehindmyhands

Any vunerable child should be allowed to be homeschooled if parents wish

This again. Vulnerable children have a right to be educated alongside their non-vulnerable peers in as safe an environment as is possible. Currently, there are next to no mitigation’s taking place in schools and as such, they are not even vaguely safe environments for the vulnerable. Why should vulnerable children be denied an education and cut off from their friendships? We keep talking about rights and mental health so what about the rights and mental health of vulnerable children?

I agree.

The rights to an education and mental health only apply to 'healthy children' on here it would seem.
Children need socialisation with their peers .....but if they have health problems they can just be stay at home and be homeschooled so everyone else can get on as normal.

Woolff · 18/02/2021 21:11

@MarshaBradyo

They've had 12 months of this! It's been two terms of online learning! They've only been in a term!

Wtf are you talking about? Are you trying to say my year 6 has had more than one term in school over last three terms? Unless back 8th March

I do not get what you are going on about. I know when he has not been in school

So odd

What the fuck I'm talking about is that this is in the context of a whole education, not a year.

Year 6. He'll get 21 terms before secondary school.

There's 1 and a half left in time until then. He's had 19 and a half.

Even if he was off from the first national lockdown (23rd March 2020) til September (and I believe year 6 were invited back in June 2020, but nevermind that) and then from this national lockdown, 5th Jan 2021 until now, that represents 1 and a half terms at home (apparently some online learning, you say) . 18 in school.

18/19.5 isn't really the worst thing they could have happened to him.

ThePenIsBlue · 18/02/2021 21:13

[quote Mummy195]@ThePenIsBlue

Sorry, my numbers are from the data I heard of closer to 800 beginning of the week and over 1000 from before. I heard that these numbers are actually just hospital and care home numbers, so there are more.

But my point stands, still 400 too many deaths.

Our DCs are not in bunkers and I sorry, as I said death is permanent, but I don't see how children from loving homes can be so scarred for life that it's comparable to people dying permanently, when those DC are allowed to go for a daily walk etc.

Problem is that we have always seen this virus as a passing thing, so no provisions were made. Maybe the gov can look into dispatching some kind of support in place like distanced counselling, giving people practical ideas on how to help with cabin fever etc.

What I'm uncomfortable with is risking people dying, because you have no way back from that.[/quote]
You’re uncomfortable with risking people dying? However do you live in the real world? However do you go about a normal day to day life?
Death is a part of life. People need to get real.

peachgreen · 18/02/2021 21:16

@tootiredtospeak This thread is about NI and the hospitals here are overwhelmed. Almost all at over 100% capacity. I absolutely agree that schools need to be the number one priority for going back as soon as possible and I am desperate for DD to get some normality. But it's not as simple as "the survival rate is high, the vulnerable have been vaccinated". If the NHS cannot treat patients, they will die. And that's forever.

gallbladderpain · 18/02/2021 21:16

@ThePenisBlue

Let's not treat anything again then. When you or your child is unwell just stay at home don't seek medical treatment because at the end of the day if you die, it is part of life after all.

MarshaBradyo · 18/02/2021 21:16

Woolf he’s year 6 now so no he wasn’t. He was year 5 then of course.

Honestly you can do all the leaping around you want. Two terms stuck at home out of three is a lot.

I’m not going to do some convoluted addition of his whole school life as much as it makes you feel better for some reason.

canary1 · 18/02/2021 21:19

Woolf is keen to stay working from home, and to hell with the well- documented harmful effects caused by lockdown to the children. Can’t argue with stupid.

Fembot123 · 18/02/2021 21:19

@gallbladderpain

Perhaps i'm just not full of negativity ! Be positive for the kids sake if nothing else. Everyone knows it's a shit situation, it is shit for everyone but there is nothing we can do to change that right now, the decisions are not in our hands so try to get some enjoyment with the children !
Rude.
jackieweaverforpm · 18/02/2021 21:19

You shouldn't be "teaching your children" nor feeling like you need to be qualified to do so. Your child's school should be providing the work and support to do that and if they aren't, you should be speaking to them. As a parent, your job is to encourage them and get them into a place where they are able to learn.

I hope that it's Easter and I say that as a mum or two, one of which is in year 2 who I am supporting with learning whilst working full time at her side. I want this to be over as much as everyone else but we're not there yet and those extra weeks could really make a difference.

savethewales · 18/02/2021 21:20

Can’t help but think people are painting a rosy picture of their children playing out after school and socialising with their peers; when in reality they’d be at home on screens playing with their friends.
Would be interesting to see how many people were kicking off about schools not closing in January?

diggetydoolittle · 18/02/2021 21:20

@HauntedPencil

And 2 of those will likely be heavily restricted barring no home school what's the difference really between term and holiday any more?

I've actually found it worse. Don't be pedantic

You can make the best of it. Last summer holidays were difficult because of Covid but at the end of it my DC said we'd done so much stuff that they never would have normally done - all of it free - and that'd it'd been a good summer. You just have to think outside the box and work out ways of doing things with your children.
Woolff · 18/02/2021 21:20

@MarshaBradyo

Woolf he’s year 6 now so no he wasn’t. He was year 5 then of course.

Honestly you can do all the leaping around you want. Two terms stuck at home out of three is a lot.

I’m not going to do some convoluted addition of his whole school life as much as it makes you feel better for some reason.

He should be perfectly fine at home. And as you can see, the majority of his (and everyone's) education is in the bank, and will still take place in future.
HauntedPencil · 18/02/2021 21:21

I'm not asking for advice thank you very much as I've made abundantly clear.

MarshaBradyo · 18/02/2021 21:21

@savethewales

Can’t help but think people are painting a rosy picture of their children playing out after school and socialising with their peers; when in reality they’d be at home on screens playing with their friends. Would be interesting to see how many people were kicking off about schools not closing in January?
Same people as wanting them to stay closed now?

Closed to most of course not all Hmm

Fembot123 · 18/02/2021 21:21

@savethewales

Can’t help but think people are painting a rosy picture of their children playing out after school and socialising with their peers; when in reality they’d be at home on screens playing with their friends. Would be interesting to see how many people were kicking off about schools not closing in January?
Baseless nonsense.
Fembot123 · 18/02/2021 21:22

That’s a pretty patronising post @diggetydoolittle 😂

ThePenIsBlue · 18/02/2021 21:23

[quote gallbladderpain]@ThePenisBlue

Let's not treat anything again then. When you or your child is unwell just stay at home don't seek medical treatment because at the end of the day if you die, it is part of life after all.[/quote]
Absolutely treat it, throw all the medicine in the world at it. Don’t shut the world down and ruin the prospects of future generations. If you’re 6 and you’re dying it’s a tragedy, if you’re 40 and you’re dying it’s a tragedy, if you’re 80 and you’re dying, it’s a fact of life.

We were told locking down was to protect the nhs, who can’t cope with car accident victims or 34 year olds who get cancer, or the young grandad who has prostate cancer. But who gives a fuck about them as long as people don’t die from Covid.

Covid is a fact of life now. People will die from it. We need to get on with our fucking lives.

MarshaBradyo · 18/02/2021 21:23

Woolf no he is better learning with friends rather than via a screen. You should be perfectly fine in school though too right?

diggetydoolittle · 18/02/2021 21:24

Even if he was off from the first national lockdown (23rd March 2020) til September

@Woolff