Why are cases rising?

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I feel so depressed today. I had the vaccine last week and now I’m thinking what was the point?!

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They aren’t rising are they? The official figures show there’s been a drop in the past week of more than 20%

It was on the news earlier.
Somebody saying they are starting to see a slight upturn in some areas.
Nothing to worry about yet but watching with some concern.
Their words.

Oh FFS

Possibly complete lockdown fatigue. An article in the Guardian today with Professor Mark Woolhouse:

"He told the committee that the public health benefit of a lockdown declines over time. “You get half the public health benefit … in the first two weeks. And the next two weeks is only half the benefit again and then half the benefit again. So the actual public health benefit you’re getting from lockdown diminishes over time,” he said."

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/17/uk-covid-lockdowns-can-be-eased-quicker-due-to-vaccines-and-data-mps-told

Our ZOE cases rose by 500 last week, though have just had a drop finally.

Not sure why though I know of one family, one business and a care home locally that have all been affected.

It's hospital admissions I am looking at

We all know even with vaccinations you still get

Tim Spector from Covid app tweeted about this earlier. There's a suggestion that people are logging side effects of vaccines in the app and this might be showing as rising cases. Another suggestion is people not being careful in first two weeks after vaccination when there is NO protection.

The 7 day total is down by 24% from the previous week.

cases never seem to go down in the north west.

it's too easy to blame 'poverty', which is largely insulting to most who live here, as there are many, many areas of high income, not-depressed populations. I am in South Lakes, for instance, and it is currently low here, but my partner is in a larger urban area between Liverpool and Manchester, and it literally NEVER drops down there. It just persists and persists, rising and rising.

I wonder why though. Is it because there are so many large towns in a string across the country, all close together?
Do less people in the NW work from home?
Are people less compliant?

Personally I see a mixed bunch, and I work from home anyway (before covid) so it is hard for me to give an opinion.

I do find it incredibly depressing though, how the NW keeps goddamn rising, it even managed to keep a fair pace with London when stuff got out of control there. And even now, in the flagging stages of a long lockdown, the NW still keeps a possessive hold on the case rates.

Why?

Ffs.
Terrible headline
You look at the 7 day average

ah the Mail, home of world class journalism, razor sharp intellect............oh wait confusing it with something else.

Tim Spector would be the first to admit that the Zoe app is not infallible, nor is it a crystal ball.

Check out their January 29th press release covid.joinzoe.com/post/januarys-drop-in-cases-is-starting-to-slow and then compare it with what actually happened.

Haven't looked at the numbers but work in healthcare. Our trust sends us almost daily emails to remind us to social distance in breaks etc as there have been so many outbreaks amongst staff who are in the first 8 days post jab. It gives a false sense of security when there is no benefit at the point. I guess this could apply to the wider population, older people having confidence to go out where as previously they stayed at home etc?

I know it sounds awful but it's making me hate the place. I feel ashamed of that. This virus has a lot to answer for. :(

@Sleepyblueocean

The 7 day total is down by 24% from the previous week.

Better to look at this op

The media have been fucking appalling throughout this

The vaccine doesn't stop cases.

Cases going up isn't a bad thing once the vulnerable are vaccinated it means you would only get a mild case of it and recover

Have a look at Tim Spector on Twitter for more discussion about the Zoe app.
It could be recording side effects from vaccines as potential cases.

my partner is in a larger urban area between Liverpool and Manchester, and it literally NEVER drops down there. It just persists and persists, rising and rising.

@Sallygoround631 what? Cases are down loads in the NW compared to the start of the year and still falling, as is the case in Manchester, Liverpool, Salford, Trafford, Blackburn, Warrington, Wigan, St. Helens, Preston, Chorley, West Lancs and Halton. Bolton and Bury have levelled off a bit but also have significantly fewer daily cases than they did in January. Where exactly is this 'large urban area' that you're referring to?

@icantthinkofanamehelp 👌👌👌

The media have a lot to answer for an a lot of people's mental health issues on their conscience. Disgusting.

People thinking they are free to ignore SD after a dose of the vaccine. People mixing regardless of the rules. Large numbers in schools. Shopping seen as a leisure activity etc.

Look at the trend, not the figures on a particular day. Cases are falling.

Also, the Daily Mail Utterly irresponsible reporting.

I haven't seen todays numbers yet but good to hear that the rolling average is still going down. Surely we all know by now that there are going to be day to day fluctuations for various reasons

IceCreamAndCandyfloss do you never take a day off from the finger pointing?

Cases and deaths are down on last week

Plus there are 5000 less people in hospital with covid this week compared with last week

I think cases will keep rising as we know you can still test positive after having the vaccine, but less people will need to be in hospital so it's the hospital admissions we need to keep an eye on