Shops/pubs/indoor mixing 'not till cases under 1000 a day'

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According to The Telegraph.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/02/16/covidlockdown-continue-cases-drop-1000-day/

First it was save lives.
Then it was prevent hospitalisations and protect the NHS.
Now it's all down to cases apparently.

Beginning to think the whole thing is pointless. OK so schools may partly open and some outdoor mixing but even that is sounding unsure.

I was looking forward to getting my vaccine soon (group 6) but not sure I see the point now if vaccines aren't our way out...

It is all just gossip. No point of getting worried or worked up until we actually hear the plan

I am waiting for the next lot of research from our current vaccination program. Sounds like it will be pretty reassuring. Then we will know how things are going to play out.

I don't think it will take us to long to get to very low figures and reckon they will slowly open up schools, then retail etc with 3 week gaps. To monitor the situation. By the time you get to hospitality we would be below 1000 easily.

As I understand it, it’s about driving down transmission, because the fewer cases there are, the fewer chances the virus has to mutate.

Large gatherings, offices, holidays and Christmases have ceased to exist forevermore? Jesus, I’m a pessimist by nature but even I think that’s goady bollocks.

@RedFrog2 how many times have you name changed to post the same bollocks? This must be about your 10th.

How does it were all the user names similar (red in the name?) or is it just literally the same rubbish posted and style of writing?

It’s all speculation until the 22nd. I’m pleased, if true, the gov have learnt their lessons from unlocking in June. The old covid thinking was about protecting the NHS but with the new variants around we could find ourselves in dodgy waters very quickly if one took hold. The number of cases need to be kept low to help prevent new variants taking hold.

*work not were

@Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum

How does it were all the user names similar (red in the name?) or is it just literally the same rubbish posted and style of writing?

Same style of writing. I can spot it a mile off now. Wish I could remember the other user names!

Look out for phrases like "the army should be patrolling on the streets", "get used to spending a lot more time at home", "unnecessary trips to the shops for gin and chocolate".

Still all spin and no substance as all speculation until announcement a few days away.

However seems to make some scientific sense as possibly strike the right balance of risks versus social and economic benefits.

May be tiers but hopefully no more perpetual yo yo open and close cycles causing longer term greater damage with more lives and livelihoods lost than temporary short sighted "fixes."

mad as a bog of redfrogs....like ww1 this current lockdown is the lockdown to end all lockdowns.....

It is going to be wall to wall headlines and threads like this until Monday ☹

What joy!

I'm glad to hear this.
I don't want a knee jerk reaction.
I'd rather the crucial years went back eg gcse and a level. Perhaps when year 7, 6.

Gently see how that goes with the key worker groups. I really want a good summer, I never like this time of year, even when we can go out we never have money, the weather is awful...

I'd rather wait and let rip safely.

Oh gosh I see this has been knocked off....

As usual headline more sensational than the content.

Oh no wait you came out with that bastion of scientific fact, “I’m afraid”. Oh well then must mean you’re right

Those who are frozen with dread at the thought of long COVID are welcome to stay indoors forever.

I think most people will not be joining them.

No covid. What a nightmare. Why would anyone want that!

I hate to mention false positives, as they are regularly latched on to by Covid deniers, but aren't they going to be relevant here? We're generally testing around 500k+ people a day now, far more than we were in the summer when cases got below 1000. And we're now carrying out random testing e.g. healthcare workers, door-to-door testing.

This article from October discredited the dodgy argument that the majority of cases were false positives. However, it mentions a false positive rate of 0.8% for PCR tests. No idea how reliable that is but if it is correct then that would result in 0.8% of 500,000 = 4,000 false positives per day.
www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/54270373

The next article considers the false positive rate for lateral flow tests. The false negative rate is a far bigger concern for these tests, but the article suggests a false positive rate of 0.32%. 0.32% of 500,000 is still 1600 cases per day.