Return to School Conditions

[Bing12]

I see a lot about when should schools open in the press, but very little about what should be in place before they reopen. Wondering what the feeling is - I imagine it’s a whole spectrum 🤷‍♀️

For a start I think it should be made a criminal offence for parents to send a child into school if the child should be isolating.

@RafaIsTheKingOfClay

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I perceive that social distancing has greatly hindered how well DC can understand how to do anything. They can't be shown, they can't show their work. They don't get inspired. There is no personal connection or inspiration. That's what social distancing means.

I don't care about covid transmission around DC.

My feelings obviously don't change what happens. DC will start to actually learn things again when social distancing stops. I hope that is soon.

No... that's not going to happen. Because yr12 DS is going to drop out probably, instead. Hopefully he can find a way to get job skills another way. But other DC might still start to learn things, sometime soonish.

Is there any new evidence that transmission has changed in children? Is there any new evidence that schools are a source of outbreaks in the community?

If not, same rules as the autumn, gradually relaxed as more people are vaccinated.

And one reason I say the same rules as the autumn is that the ever-changing rules are an absolute nightmare for teachers and children, and everybody is exhausted. Some predictability would be a welcome relief.

I cant see much changing tbh ,we'd of heard by now, Boris cant fart without it being leaked to the public minimum 24 hours notice 🙄

I think we should be sending them back part time/blended learning OP.

There's no plan though is there? We could start this whole debate up, but the government aren't interested in adapting or changing the status quo.

It's full time as usual. Or nothing (unless you're a KW child)

I think they will just go in as normal. There is no political appetite to make schools safer.

I strongly suspect masks will be mandated at secondary schools but everyone back. Wouldn't be surprised if teachers weren't offered vaccination if over 50 as a priority next week.

www.nasuwt.org.uk/advice/health-safety/coronavirus-guidance/school-and-college-reopening-during-the-pandemic.html

In Wales foundation phase (3-7 year olds) are returning from 22nd.
Teachers will be wearing masks in class and having twice weekly lateral flow tests. Not sure if that’s every school (the tests) but ours are.

Otherwise it’s pretty much the same as in the Autumn.

@ArosAdraDrosDolig

In Wales foundation phase (3-7 year olds) are returning from 22nd. Teachers will be wearing masks in class and having twice weekly lateral flow tests. Not sure if that’s every school (the tests) but ours are.

Otherwise it’s pretty much the same as in the Autumn.

That’s interesting, didn’t know teachers in wales were wearing masks.

@HalfPastThree

Is there any new evidence that transmission has changed in children? Is there any new evidence that schools are a source of outbreaks in the community?

If not, same rules as the autumn, gradually relaxed as more people are vaccinated.

There is quite a bit - if you google Israel and Italy you’ll see they’re having quite a few problems surrounding schools. And ONS data shows 5-8 age group as the highest infection rate (despite more asymptomatic spread so less testing and less children in school).

@Dustyboots

I think we should be sending them back part time/blended learning OP.

There's no plan though is there? We could start this whole debate up, but the government aren't interested in adapting or changing the status quo.

It's full time as usual. Or nothing (unless you're a KW child)

I agree, hoping for part-time/blended and choice. I’m not sure even this government would be stupid enough to enforce attendance again. The new mutation and current infection rates in schools must be causing some alarm.

[quote Hugepeppapigfan]www.nasuwt.org.uk/advice/health-safety/coronavirus-guidance/school-and-college-reopening-during-the-pandemic.html[/quote]
Thanks for this 🙂

@lljkk

I perceive that social distancing has greatly hindered how well DC can understand how to do anything. They can't be shown, they can't show their work. They don't get inspired. There is no personal connection or inspiration. That's what social distancing means.

I don't care about covid transmission around DC.

My feelings obviously don't change what happens. DC will start to actually learn things again when social distancing stops. I hope that is soon.

No... that's not going to happen. Because yr12 DS is going to drop out probably, instead. Hopefully he can find a way to get job skills another way. But other DC might still start to learn things, sometime soonish.

I often think that, I helped out my child’s primary, I can’t see how you could help children with the situation re covid as it is. Your son will get back on track. I really hope the next six months will give us more hope especially as the weather and o trope opportunities improve.

What ever is proposed by government will be refused by unions... and vice versa.

I think the fact that case numbers have come down so dramatically really shows how big the spread was in schools and then their communities before xmas. The November lockdown was very limited in comparison.
The govt need to really think about not making the same mistakes. The testing in schools will definitely help this. A logistical nightmare and there will be school staff who are almost permanently testing to get through a whole school community once a week, never mind the twice a week some are suggesting.

A blended learning approach similar to other countries would be the safest option. 50% of the cohort in at any time. Again, a logistical nightmare and not the best for education but 'Covid loves a crowd' and schools are completely overcrowded.

I also think school staff should be able to wear masks if they choose, rather than this be at the Headteachers discretion. If classrooms have no ventilation they should not be being used IMO.

Lots of primary aged kids have been positive at my school. Nearly all asymptomatic (only known as parents tested because of close contact). Problem is staff are not asymptomatic and quite a few are still off months later. But nothing will change except there will be more room on icu if we need it. 😡

MN really is a site of two halves, this thread is for those that think schools can’t open unless covid free- hope you aren’t the same people crying about your children suffering depression and refusing to home learn.

Schools can, and should open, but with a much higher level of mitigation. It is being done in other countries and we should stop with the all or nothing approach!.

@OnlyFoolsnMothers

MN really is a site of two halves, this thread is for those that think schools can’t open unless covid free- hope you aren’t the same people crying about your children suffering depression and refusing to home learn.

It is not a choice of covid free or back to normal. There is plenty in between.

We aren't being told we must wear masks in class in the wales guidelines. Just that they should be considered when social distancing can't be maintained. Guidelines not rules. So you have to hope your HT is sensible in the way they interpret that.

When ks2 come back I won't be wearing one at my desk where i have a bit of room, just about 2m from the front row, but will wear it in corridors and when walking around the room helping the kids with their work.

We have to have tables spaced 1m apart if poss (not poss with 30) and they have to face front.

lonelyplanet apart from kids sitting in lessons for 6 hrs a day in masks I’ve yet to hear of what these additional
Measures could be.