Covid vaccine safe?

[Duemarch2021]

Dad had the covid vaccine today and i was originally really happy about it as he is 71 and has very severe asthma ..I was terrified that if he caught covid he wouldn't make it... but now I'm starting to worry that in a few years time, we will all be hearing that the vaccine wasn't safe and that its causing problems in people who have been injected!.. anybody else worrying about this or AIBU?

@LagunaBubbles

Savannah seems to be on Planet Conspiracy.

Not conspiracy just common sense. Unlike many that believe anything there told by those that have a vested interest in things so it seems

People are very into piling on. If asked whether I am nervous about the vaccination, I say yes. I am about any vaccination - why wouldn't I be? I do remember stuff around the swine flu vaccines in 2010 and a friend's young child having some side effects, but that seems to have passed now. I don't see why we all have to be jubilant about the prospect of getting the jab. It is a necessary procedure to avert something potentially awful. I can still worry about it and whether it might kick something bad off in me and mine.

@Duemarch2021 I feel the same and think you’re worried are completely justified. I really worry about what we don’t know about these vaccines. Saying that I’m CEV and had mine last week, it didn’t sit right with me to have it really and I question if it was the right thing to do, but I equally worry about catching covid and becoming very sick/dying from it. So to me there wasn’t really a right or wrong answer.
I also have health anxiety and this past year has been incredibly hard, all we can do is hope for an end being in sight and try hard not to worry too much about the future and the unknown

anybody else worrying about this or AIBU?

I'm not worrying about it, no.
Most vaccinations are safe and these have been through the same safety features. Most issues are discovered during trials.

Having had covid and being in hospital, and still suffering with ongoing issues over 3 months later, I'd rather have the vaccine that risk catching it again.

I'm cv so joint I won't wait too long.

Not conspiracy just common sense
Unlike many that believe anything there told

I have no time for anyone who thinks its "common sense" that vaccines are poison. Stupid and ignorant. And dangerous.

I’ve had Covid & remain unconvinced that I will need the jab, especially given the PHE findings so far.

Furthermore, if everybody gets the jab, there can be no assessment of the effectiveness of natural immunity can there?

@UmbilicusProfundus

In another thread OP you were wondering whether you might have Asperger’s. Have you got any further looking into this?

The vaccine’s safety has been assessed to the same degree as any other vaccine that gets produced. We don’t have enough evidence to be certain about long term efficacy but that is different from safety. Yes you can argue we don’t have enough longitudinal evidence for delayed/long-term side-effects but these are vanishing rare for other vaccines and no reason to think this would be any different. And clearly the risks of covid are far greater!

Why are you bringing up irrelevant threads? You do indeed sound like a bully.

Out of interest (and bearing in mind that this vaccine has been tested as much as any other, just in a more accelerated way as it's had cash and political will thrown at it) how many vaccines have been shown to have long term side effects?

To answer the OP, I had the jab yesterday. I'm mildly worried (unpleasant side effects experienced) but my reasoning is: would they inject valuable front line workers with a substance that could hurt them?

Yes OP, it does worry me. Currently we are still in what can only be described as a large trial phase. I can understand why, as govts want to crack down hard on this virus, but that doesn't mean there won't be reactions and effects later on that will show up due to the millions having the jabs, particularly those who are in health groups that didn't receiver the vaccines during their earlier trials.

Having said that, though, it's very much a case of weighing up age and risk factors to determine whether the risk of a later vaccine reaction/side effect is worth it. My own feeling is that for your DF who is 71 with severe asthma, then the risk is probably worth taking.

@LagunaBubbles

Not conspiracy just common sense Unlike many that believe anything there told

I have no time for anyone who thinks its "common sense" that vaccines are poison. Stupid and ignorant. And dangerous.

Mmm seems you like to think your right but everyone else isn’t allowed there own opinion or decision. How sad

@SavannahMiasMum, If 'their' own opinion is shared as gospel, accusing people who actually listen to scientists and not some hocuspocus 'doctors' on Youtube to not have any common sense, then we are right to point out that your opinion is plainly wrong. And very dangerous.

[quote Worknoplay]@SavannahMiasMum, If 'their' own opinion is shared as gospel, accusing people who actually listen to scientists and not some hocuspocus 'doctors' on Youtube to not have any common sense, then we are right to point out that your opinion is plainly wrong. And very dangerous.[/quote]
Agree with all of this. Opinions aren't created equal. Some are both wrong and dangerous and I have no patience with them.

@MummyPop00

I’ve had Covid & remain unconvinced that I will need the jab, especially given the PHE findings so far.

Furthermore, if everybody gets the jab, there can be no assessment of the effectiveness of natural immunity can there?

I think the boat has sailed on natural immunity. Pursuing natural immunity would have led to far more deaths and illnesses than developing a vaccine would ever have done. NI would have been scientifically and morally reprehensible.

Yes I get that, but having had the disease I’m not convinced a vaccine (at this stage) offers any benefits way & above that but obviously one keeps an eye on the ongoing situation.

I think it is worth looking at the vaccine damage payments scheme when considering vaccine safety. There have been 941 payouts in 40 years. To me, that demonstrates the overall safety of vaccines and I see no reason to believe this one is any different.

fullfact.org/online/vaccine-damage-fund/

Giving birth is much more risky than having a vaccine, figures suggest around 69 women a year die due to complications.

www.npeu.ox.ac.uk/news/1917-mbrrace-uk-release-mbrrace-uk-saving-lives-improving-mothers-care-2

@SavannahMiasMum

For sure there will be plenty die like in Denmark. But it will be swept under the carpet to justify them putting poison in your body.

Are you talking about the deaths in Norway @SavannahMiasMum? If so have a read of the following. If you don't mean the deaths in Norway and there is some data from Denmark, could you share please as I couldn't find anything when I googled.

"A report by the [Norwegian Medicines Agency](legemiddelverket.no/nyheter/covid-19-vaccination-associated-with-deaths-in-elderly-people-who-are-frail) stated that 23 people died after receiving the Pfizer vaccine. However, the agency noted that the country is starting its vaccination programme focusing on the most vulnerable, and those in nursing homes. It notes that “an average of 400 people die each week in nursing homes and long-term care facilities.” Thus, the baseline for deaths is quite high. It goes on to state that: "In Norway we are now vaccinating the elderly and people in nursing homes with serious underlying diseases, therefore it is expected that deaths close to the time vaccination may occur."

Any death that occurs closely following a vaccine injection is recorded by the government for safety studies, even, the agency says, “when the causal relationships appears very unclear.” In short, the number of deaths reported in these headlines is factual - but the association with vaccination is speculative and unproven."

www.covidfaq.co/Claim-Vaccines-were-rushed-and-might-be-unsafe-fa5a911616044816b1bd690c9918b0ad

Not worried in the least. Had it last week and couldn't roll my sleeve up fast enough.
Every vaccine is a step closer to freedom and nothing to me is more frightening then the thought of continuing to live like this.
Plus, yes, I do believe it to be safe.

Nope, all my clinical colleagues including senior doctors wanted the vaccine as soon as possible and are not concerned, therefore neither am I. Vaccines are a very normal part of western medicine.

I guess a concern in regards to vaccinations is the development of an autoimmune disease ?

@LadyMayoGoodway Really? You must really have your anxiety under control then, because I’ve got bad health anxiety and this has absolutely crossed my mind more than I’d like.

I’ve had lots of jabs, even unnecessary ones for rare illnesses like Japanese encephalitis (I was going to SE Asia) but conspiracy theories about those vaccines weren’t shoved in my face 24/7 like they are with Covid.

OP, all will be fine. Your dad made the right decision.

My issue is the long term safety on Pfizer. It’s not there and we would be collating it for the next year or so but I think the desire to vaccinate everyone means we won’t get that chance now either. This does trouble me.

I would take the AZ vaccine if offered but it’s made using fetal kidney cells which I’m not hugely happy about. My desire is only to protect others. I’m personally at very low risk.

Do my concerns make me a lunatic QAnon flat earther? Or do I just have a healthy cynicism? Life has generally taught me it’s the latter and it has served me well.

All I would say is imagine someone you love has a disease. A new drug is available with very promising results. Do they take it? V few people decline - because the alternative is often far far worse. Who knows what happens in 5 years, you have to make that far first.

Life is balancing risk - we do it every day in our choices. The vaccine is not rushed or any of that if you want to read more and the govt is not purposefully going to make people ill long term. Think of who’ll pay the taxes!! . So no one can say never, but for me the risk is so negligible I wouldn’t even consider it a concern tbh.

@Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow

Please read this re. the cells used for the vaccines (and in what way) as I just posted on another thread. Lot of false information/ misinformation out there being passed on which is very dangerous.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/factcheckni.org/articles/covid-19-vaccines-and-aborted-fetuses/amp/