Covid vaccine safe?

[Duemarch2021]

Dad had the covid vaccine today and i was originally really happy about it as he is 71 and has very severe asthma ..I was terrified that if he caught covid he wouldn't make it... but now I'm starting to worry that in a few years time, we will all be hearing that the vaccine wasn't safe and that its causing problems in people who have been injected!.. anybody else worrying about this or AIBU?

Vaccines aren't new.

It's a very well researched technology and they know how to replicate the virus and have used already known techniques to make it.

The way I see it is that yes, we don't know the next 5/10/15 years and if there will be effects. But.... as it replicates covid and causes the same immune response it can't be any different from catching it?

But by not catching it and having severe illness you avoid death, bad lungs, CFS, long covid etc.

We know measles can cause infertility in males but the vaccine doesn't.

Try and relax. I'm confident they are confident it won't cause long term health issues as they wouldn't be racing to vaccinate a population who they had a good idea would need the nhs in their millions in a decade or 2.

I had mine via work (ward NHS) and I was relieved my dad had his recently . He is 70 with medical issues, no we don’t know about long term side effects but I sure as hell don’t want covid or long covid either. We don’t know the long term effects of those either. I trust the science and did a lot of research and feel it’s safe as we can hope for right now/

@Twistered

was just thinking back to years ago when people were given injections and then it was realised they weren't actually safe

What injections were these?

I was wondering that myself

To goad: something that encourages, urges, or drives; a stimulus. Of course it's a word.

If you want to stay in lockdown forever it's your choice. I had the first jab last week and will have the second in three months.

Don't have the vaccine and you may not be around in the future to worry about it.

was just thinking back to years ago when people were given injections and then it was realised they weren't actually safe

When did this happen?

don't really understand how this post could provoke anyone to answer with annoyance if I'm honest.

Because you have questioned the vaccine and for some that's like a red rag to a bull.

I don't think it is the fact that the OP has questioned the vaccine, I would expect anyone to do the same as you should know the facts being getting a vaccine, but for me the fact that she has questioned it without actually doing any research that is irritating and suggesting it has been rushed etc which is clearly untrue.

Wow, I'm really shocked that so many responses are so unkind. If you read my posts correctly, you'll see that I was simply asking if anybody is worried about any future repercussions of the covid vaccine... not once have I said that it shouldn't be given or slagged the vaccine off in any way. I did not say it was rushed - i said i was worried that they may have been rushed through - worried and may being the key words!

I personally WILL get the vaccine when I am offered it, but still doesn't stop me from worrying about trying a new vaccine. I did not once say that nobody should have it and that we should all live in lockdown forever!

Some posters asked which vaccine were found to be unsafe - i wrongly said vaccine but there was the drug in 1960s given to pregnant women for sickness which was found years later to cause birth defects. If YOU do some research on vaccines over the years you will also see that trial and error is put into all vaccines...

Someone mentioned that I'm annoying because ive done no research - im just asking an opinion on mumsnet for god sake, i dont need to do research to ask an opinion. I haven't had an opinion other than its a worry thats on my mind...if i was trying to force opinion on people i could understand why everyones being so snotty

To the person who said of course Goudy is a word. It isn't a word, 'to goud' or be 'gouding' are real words but goudy isn't - check the dictionary.

The poster who mentioned asperges- I think thats quite rude of you, you dont need to read through my previous posts from months ago in order to answer this thread, it's almost like you've done that to bully. I do not have asperges and even if I did, it's completely irrelevant to this thread

From now on I wont bother coming onto mumsnet for a hand hold and to air my anxieties hoping for NICE people to settle my mind because the majority of you are sad bullies with nothing better to do other than search for posts to pick apart...

The way I always explain it is that you only get long term side effects from medicines you take long term.

You can of course have a reaction to something that will cause long term issues, but it will still happen immediately. What in the vaccine could possibly cause a sudden massive side effect years after it was given? Long term side effects can occur when a medicine is being taken over many years and builds up in the tissues for example, or has a gradual effect that builds up over time.

There hasn't ever been an example of a vaccine that caused side effects years on. If you were going to react to it, it would happen as soon as you had it.

OP, you would be better off posting this on the Coronavirus board as opposed to AIBU. AIBU is known for pulling no lunches and can be quite direct at times. Also, lots of people have the Coronavirus board hidden and don't like to see Covid threads popping up elsewhere because they want a break from endless Covid talk. Lastly, "goady" is common MN parlance, like "grabby" is too. It is commonly accepted shorthand, regardless of its existence in the dictionary or not.

Pulling no punches, not lunches! 😀

Thalidomide wasn't a vaccine.
"Goud" isn't a word.
I trust the vaccines to be properly researched, developed and tested. I'm not remotely worried and I'm very keen to get mine as soon as I'm called.

Thalidomide is precisely the reason we have such robust procedures in place to test new drugs before approval. Procedures that have been followed fully, just fortunately very efficiently, alongside expert experience and understanding of how vaccines (which thalidomide was not) behave.

I believe that thalidomide had an immediate effect on the developing foetus. It was a drug given to pregnant women for morning sickness. As far as I know, it wasn't taken and then effects showed up years later. Although of course it may have damaged a woman's eggs and ovaries, but again, that was while taking the drug.

AIBU isn’t the place to air anxieties really.

Back to your question- no I’m not worried. There have been no vaccines so far that cause issues “down the line”. This has been robustly tested and has caused no major side effects so far.

You have to weigh up the facts:
Vaccine that prevents disease with 3% mortality rate and has no immediate risks
Vs no vaccine - lockdowns for next 10 years, or up to 3% of the population dies

I’d much rather take the jab.

I have had the vaccine. It was explained I might feel bad for 24 hours and I did feel very rough. 24 hours later I was fine . Did I have a little worry just before I had it? Yes because it’s something new but I know it’s the right thing to do for me and everybody else.

I have my concerns regarding this too. As do some of my colleagues. That being said, I think the benefits of having the vaccine outweigh the risk of not having it.
I had mine 3 weeks ago - short term affects were a sore arm and slight headache - I would recommend taking paracetamol an hour before getting the vaccine and for the rest of that day. I guess we all have to wait and see if there is any long term affects

@TheJerkStore

was just thinking back to years ago when people were given injections and then it was realised they weren't actually safe

When did this happen?

I'm a scientist, I work in the pharmaceutical industry. The most famous example I can think of was the Cutter Incident, where there was an issue with the manufacture of the new (dead virus) polio vaccine and so the virus wasn't completely killed and so some people who were vaccinated got polio. That was in 1955. Just like Thalidomide 10 years later this event lead to additional controls of pharmaceutical manufacture to avoid it happening again. There were ongoing issues with the live attenuated polio vaccine (the sugar lump one) for another decade or two but it was still much much safer than catching wild polio. Since the Covid-19 vaccines aren't dead or live attenuated vaccines the historic issues with the polio vaccine are not relevant.

Almost 130M people have now been vaccinated against Covid-19 worldwide, the regulatory authorities are reviewing any unexpected side effects (e.g. the EMA has already reviewed the deaths in Denmark and concluded they were not due to the vaccine) and beyond mild flu symptoms and localised pain there are no major side effects.

Savannah seems to be on Planet Conspiracy.

To be fair to the OP, serious side effects of vaccines that manifested some time later HAVE happened in recent times. There's plenty of info out there regarding the 2009 swine flu vaccine in which several people who received this developed narcolepsy. The NHS has paid out damages compensation to affected individuals. (Google "Pandemrix").
Yes, the Covid vaccines are well-tested in line with other vaccines, but it's impossible to be able to consider long-term side effects of a vaccine whose trial has lasted months. Nobody should be taunted for considering this.

HOWEVER, as in the above example, this was a rare side effect that affected very few recipients. It's important to consider that the risk of becoming seriously ill from Covid is, for most people, much higher than the risk of becoming ill due to the vaccine. For this reason I will be having the vaccine but that won't stop me worrying.

The op literally asked if anyone else was worried about it, that doesn't mean she has anxiety, she didn't say she won't be taking it. How on earth is this goady?? Frankly it was a bit weird for the PP to read through the OP's previous threads and bring them up on here, especially as is has no relevance to the conversation. Do you really have nothing better to do with your time than try and catch out or harass someone over an anonymous forum?

To those who suggest she should research something before posting, how will research tell her whether other people are worried about the vaccine 🙄 and IMO a lot of the threads on here could easily be solved with a quick Google or a call to a midwife etc, but people post on here for a conversation, not to be attacked.

The op literally asked if anyone else was worried about it, that doesn't mean she has anxiety, she didn't say she won't be taking it. How on earth is this goady?? Frankly it was a bit weird for the PP to read through the OP's previous threads and bring them up on here, especially as is has no relevance to the conversation. Do you really have nothing better to do with your time than try and catch out or harass someone over an anonymous forum?

To those who suggest she should research something before posting, how will research tell her whether other people are worried about the vaccine 🙄 and IMO a lot of the threads on here could easily be solved with a quick Google or a call to a midwife etc, but people post on here for a conversation, not to be attacked.