UK plans certification system for those who want to travel to countries that may demand it as a condition for entry. *title edited by MNHQ at OP's request*

[Frequentflier]

In the Times. www.thetimes.co.uk/article/government-plans-covid-vaccine-passports-to-allow-foreign-holidays-3mc9vd0xk

@iveturnedintoachip

What about if you have young dc?

I'm guessing they will need a negative test to travel with vaccinated parents.

People will travel where they're allowed to go, so if e.g. France and Spain keep their borders closed to UK citizens, but Greece and Turkey don't, people will go to Greece and Turkey.

Money talks - you watch - once the UK population is vaccinated I'm willing to bet that countries will be trying to entice us to go and spend our holiday money with them.

It’s just for Greece. Anyone else read the entire article?

A lot of European countries are talking about it. Makes sense.

Personally I can't live like this for another year! There will have to be some allowances made to enable the economy to get going again. Unless people want to emerge from this with no businesses or travel companies left!

Just seems like too much flaff. I imagine they’ll will still be mandatory testing at either end. Wearing a mask in the airport and the aeroplane. And at the other end. I just couldn’t be bothered with it all.

Some countries are vaccinating children though - so how will a U.K. child travelling there work?

I’d agree with that if every adult has had the chance to be vaccinated (and children exempt or able to be vaccinated). I’ve had to prove yellow fever vaccination for travel before.

I wouldn’t agree if it means that young adults can’t travel while older adults can. Young adults are the group most likely to have been made unemployed or furloughed, while at lowest risk for the virus. They shouldn’t have extra restrictions when they’ve already been giving up so much, mainly to protect other people.

Some countries are vaccinating children though

Which ones?

I know Israel is vaccinating 16-18 (or talking about it) and perhaps some extremely CV children are being vaxxed, but there is no vax approved for under 16s anywhere as far as I know.

I am a bit confused - i thought the vaccine is only supposed to stop the recipient from getting unwell but won't stop the recipient from getting the virus and passing it on? So someone can have a VP and catch one of the many variants the uk seemed to be plagued atm and carry it with them to another country along with their passports? Or has that advice changed now and have they said vaccines guard against catching and spreading as well? I appreciate herd immunity will stop the spread but I wouldnt have thought we would be able to get herd immunity by summer? Genuinely confused.

@TheKeatingFive

A lot of European countries are talking about it. Makes sense.

Are they?

Anyway, like I said (because I’ve read the full article) it’s just Greece, at the moment.

plagued with* atm

But aren't they super spreaders?Firstly no, they aren’t.*

That was a little tongue in cheek based on so many threads this yr/last yr.

They shouldn’t have extra restrictions when they’ve already been giving up so much, mainly to protect other people.

I absolutely agree that they’ve given up a huge amount, but it would only mean a delay if a few months for them, then will get to travel soon.

I just don’t see why countries shouldn’t let vaxxed adults in if it suits them to do so. They alternative is probably limiting travel for all.

That was a little tongue in cheek based on so many threads this yr/last yr.

Oh

@southeastdweller

It’s just for Greece. Anyone else read the entire article?

The Greek PM also said that they were

“not going to make vaccination compulsory or a prerequisite for travel, persons who have been vaccinated should be free to travel.”

@southeastdweller

It’s just for Greece. Anyone else read the entire article?

It says the govt is preparing a passport for countries that may ask for it. True that we don't yet know which countries may.

Singapore Airlines , btw, is trialing a similar system. Can't link right now but there is a demand for this in Asia.

Are they?

There was an article about Denmark doing the same the other day, it also mentioned Sweden and somewhere else (Italy???)

I’d be surprised if it isn’t widespread policy soon

@Frequentflier

Why do you keep pushing this? You sound obsessed.

The article says that the UK is working on issuing proof of vaccination, which is fine.

The words vaccine passports is between inverted commas - I don't know if you've noticed

It's not going to be up to us @Siepie

It's expected restrictions from other countries, and how we maximise the ability of UK residents to other countries. It's also not noticeably fair for it to be impossible for someone vaccinated to be unable to travel to see their family (including for compassionate reasons) because UK isn't issuing proof of vaccination because not every potential holidaymaker will be eligible at the same time.

I think I may start to self-identify as a 20-year old until I decide to take a vaccine, that will do

Also how selfish are we going to look if we have vaccines to go on holiday whilst other poorer countries are waiting for vaccines?

You know that will be thrown at us!

It’s not about holidays for me. My husband hasn’t been able to see his family for coming to to 2 years. Is stick anything in my arm to be able to see them and them to see their grandchildren 😢

Also how selfish are we going to look if we have vaccines to go on holiday

That’s not the primary reason why we’re vaccinating. It just happens to work out well for countries who want the tourist income from travellers who aren’t a big Covid risk.

[quote trulydelicious]@Frequentflier

Why do you keep pushing this? You sound obsessed.

The article says that the UK is working on issuing proof of vaccination, which is fine.

The words vaccine passports is between inverted commas - I don't know if you've noticed[/quote]
ok 😂 you will note that as a person who currently cannot visit her mother, daughter or sister because British passengers are banned, I might be rather keen on a method that allows me to, by August. Not me who is pushing it. Countries will make their own choices.

@TheKeatingFive I know that but you know the Guardian will go with that title!