UK plans certification system for those who want to travel to countries that may demand it as a condition for entry. *title edited by MNHQ at OP's request*

[Frequentflier]

In the Times. www.thetimes.co.uk/article/government-plans-covid-vaccine-passports-to-allow-foreign-holidays-3mc9vd0xk

Good.

@TrustTheGeneGenie

It's fake news

@frozendaisy

This isn't just about holidays though is it? It's about a two-tier society with vaccinated v unvaccinated (omitting those who don't want a vaccine).

The higher risk activities should only be opened up once all adults have been offered a vaccine, the oldies need to be patient now for the youngers to catch up.

Otherwise it will feel so very unfair and that breeds resentment, which would be a terrible society to re-emerge into as there are plenty of other problems to address.

Absolutely this.

@TrustTheGeneGenie

Oh FFS.

I have had my first vaccination, so i'll be able to go abroad... yayy!!

alone, because my other half is a healthy 40yo so wont get his any time soon, and my child will not be vaccinated for a v long time considering its not licensed for children...

what a brilliant idea

That's not what the aricle says. Read Floridaflipflops earlier post - the OP is basically fake news.

article!

If children are not to be vaccinated, does that rule out family holidays for the foreseeable future? Or are children excluded or intended to be vaccinated at some point ? Lots of unknowns here.

(As an aside, it says a lot about the MN demographic that holidaying in the U.K. is referred to as a ‘staycation’. Nope-a ‘staycation’ is where you take time off work and stay in your actual own home).

@Frequentflier

Jeez, I don;t think it's scaremongering- I thought it was a way out for those of us stuck here- but fine, I will email MN to change the title to "UK plans certification system for those who want to travel to countries that may demand it as a condition for entry".

I'm sure you didn't mean to scaremonger, but your OP is very misleading. With all things Covid it's best to be accurate because there is so much misinformation being spewed around that then causes people to turn on certain groups as illustrated by Beaniecats ageist post.

@TheKeatingFive

I just don’t see what people think should be done to make it fairer on younger people?

We can’t control who other countries let in.

Should we bump them up the vaccine list? Hardly.

Or prevent others from going? Really?

Well, of course we could prevent others going. Just as everyone (regardless of vaccine status) is currently not allowed to go.

I wonder what the charge will be for the vaccination passport as let's face it, it won't be free!

I get it in theory but does that mean under 50’s with no underlying conditions can’t go on holiday?
And will business travellers be able to get the vaccine?

I think it would terribly unfair for younger healthier people to not be allowed to go on holiday this summer when others are as they haven’t had their vaccine yet. If nothing else if another strain did pop up and we had to lock down again or increase restrictions the young low risk population would be far less likely to comply if they’ve been screwed over by this.

surely you just show your id that proves your're under 50? or however far down it goes.

But surely TUI etc will be in chaos. Imagine all the non-vaccinated adults and children having to have covid tests 48 hours before they fly, and then testing positive because they already had covid 3 months earlier! No one is going to book a family package holiday knowing they could lose thousands on the basis of a test result the day before they leave. And all the thousands of package holidays that were booked in 2019 and still not yet happened. Surely the operators are desperately hoping these can go ahead in 2021. God what a nightmare.

It’s not a passport, it’s proof of vaccination which some countries are saying they might decide to require before visiting, like other jabs. Apparently Greece aren’t enthusiastic about all types of vaccine.

If we want to beat this virus, I think it's necessary. Even if it means some people can't travel in the near future for 'fun'.

If we want to travel abroad, I don't think we'll have a choice tbh. If other countries demand one, our government will have to comply.

In terms of people coming here, I think it's a good idea too. If another variant slips in, we'll be in lockdown again.

@cathyandclare

This does seem extraordinarily harsh on the teens and young adults. Locked up for a year for an illness that is of little danger to them, the last to be vaccinated and allowed to travel, and stuck with the bill for their working lives.

Yep nice isn't it

It will be up to other countries as to whether we can travel there and you the U.K. government to decide whether you then need to go to a quarantine hotel on your return.

It’s nothing to do with age.

@Jaxhog

If we want to travel abroad, I don't think we'll have a choice tbh. If other countries demand one, our government will have to comply.

In terms of people coming here, I think it's a good idea too. If another variant slips in, we'll be in lockdown again.

They don’t have to comply with anything. Every person that has a vaccination will have a vaccination card. That should be evidence. However if you actually READ the article you will see it’s about what the Greek PM is saying and that he WONT make it compulsory.

Honestly I think people have lost there minds. I’ve never seen so much misinformation, chaos and division. I’m really starting to believe this is being done on purpose. An article gets published which has no real factual evidence or substance and people have a knee jerk reaction and don’t even bother to actually read it. I’m really starting to believe people in the media and SM are purposely trying to cause chaos and people are lapping it up.

We’ve done fantastic on our vaccine role out, rates and deaths are falling and the Gov have repeatedly said they have no plans for a vaccine passport.

An article gets published which has no real factual evidence or substance and people have a knee jerk reaction and don’t even bother to actually read it.

This happens frequently on here and on social media to be fair. 😀

Hence why Twitter now asks you if you want to read the article you are about to retweet before you retweet it, which is quite funny when they do it to the person who actually wrote the article (which has happened).

People on Facebook have commented on or shared articles they obviously haven't read since the start of Facebook and the same thing even happens with comments under newspaper articles on the newspapers own websites.

The Telegraph posted an article 40 mins ago stating that at 8:24am this morning the Government (James Cleverly) stated they had NO plans for a vaccine passport.

People stop buying in to the bull the papers are pumping out.

This thread should just be zapped, all it does is stir up aminosity.

@pinkearedcow

This thread should just be zapped, all it does is stir up aminosity.

Absolutely.

This does seem extraordinarily harsh on the teens and young adults. Locked up for a year for an illness that is of little danger to them, the last to be vaccinated and allowed to travel, and stuck with the bill for their working lives

Except that is not what is happening cathyandclare

Yes I think it should be deleted as well. Shame the OP couldn’t be arsed to properly sum up the article and title, which most people can’t access, leading to all this confusion and anxiety.