This clap for Captain Tom idea

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I've just seen a lot on social media about this clap for Tom on Thursday at 8, similar to the clap for the NHS.

I'm a bit ambivalent about this. The one organised the other week was a damp squib and nobody got involved. The weather is still dark and cold (it wasn't in the summer when the pots and pans were out for the NHS). However, for a nation in mourning at Tom's passing, perhaps this could help really bring the country together on Thursday.

@joystir59

I'm not in mourning for Captain Tom. I don't even know the bloke. I'm in mourning for my wife who died 7 months ago today. I'm certainly not taking part in any ridiculous clapping for him or anyone else. Get a grip!

I'm so sorry for your loss

We don't need anyone to raise charitable donations for the NHS, it's s professional health service funded through taxation and national insurance, and £35m is a drop in the ocean. A gesture. I can't stand the charitisation of the NHS.

That said, I will personally give a good Anne Summers celebratory bumming treat to the first person who patents a Lego Kit to commemorate this, especially if it's got moving parts. I literally cannot wait.

Honestly, what is it with everyone clapping like seals these days. Sorry but no.

No more clapping.

I don’t know @slashlover. That is the glorious and whilst injured, a very much alive Virgil, isn’t it?

I'm sad he died. I'm sad for everyone who had died from Covid.

I'm fucking devastated that my dad died from Covid.

So no, I won't be clapping or whatever bullshit others want to do.. but please go ahead.

@Londonisburningg

So will everyone be clapping for the other 100,000+ who have died of covid, or other illnesses throughout the pandemic? Seriously sick of this hero worshipping shit

When you personally have raised more than £30million for any charity then you'll be entitled to your jibe, but until then perhaps it would be better if you kept your opinions to yourself.

@SquirtleSquad

This is much more disrespectful than anything posted on this thread. No clapping. His family don't want it and nor do most sensible people. Of course it's sad that he's passed away after raising such a great amount of money for the NHS but he was 100. It could have happened of any cause at any time.

Please stop the Diana references, it's entirely different.

Absolutely agree with no clapping etc but genuinely interested to know what was different about Diana ? She wasn’t a state figure in any shape or form before her death. My recollection is that Londoners and the press demanded that the Queen and the rest of the Royal family including her young sons returned to London so they could show that they actually cared about her death. There are scenes that are mawkish in the extreme of women clutching onto Harry and William as if they were the ones truly suffering. In contrast our esteemed PM accused Liverpool of wallowing In ‘self pity’ after Hillsborough and the execution of Ken Bigley. Perhaps MN experts could provide a guide on those people who are worthy of people expressing even a simple sympathy for and those who don’t quite cut the cloth

@IdblowJonSnow

I would happily do this. I'll probably have a tear in my eye for all the other people who've died and their loved ones mourning them. Costs me nothing and it feels nice to do something at a time when we're fairly helpless/powerless.

And fuck off with the virtue signalling bollocks, I have massive fences and no one will see or know, or probably care, that I'm doing it.

But why would you stand outside your house and clap specifically? Especially behind fences alone? If anything it's slightly more understandable if you're doing it as part of a community thing but why would anyone ever think to go outside and clap? Is that what you do usually to mourn the dead? Did people stand in their gardens clapping at the sky like a confused seal when other "national treasures" died over the years?

@visitorfromtheplanetzog

When you personally have raised more than £30million for any charity then you'll be entitled to your jibe

The NHS isn't a charity. It's a public health service which we all pay for that's been fatally underfunded by this government. Normalising raising funds for it is to do it a great disservice. We should all be kicking up a stinking fuss rather than being distracted by clapping.

@Doomsdayiscoming oh my days can you actually imagine when that happens if people are like this about an old man they don't know!

Why would you care ? Someone wants to do this. No virtue signalling but to this person something he/she wants to do. Same way that I am lighting a candle for Captain Tom. Nothing on Facebook and in no way trying to pretend I share even remotely the grief of his family/friends - just a recognition that he brought , at least for a short time , a sense seems of togetherness that I honestly feel we have lost forever

I'm getting a bit fed up with all these "instructions" to clap. They tried to start up the "clapping for the NHS" thing lately - Jon Snow on Channel 4 News said he was sorry they couldn't broadcast the weather but they had had instructions to leave time between programmes for people to go out and clap. I had no intention of responding to an "order" to go out and clap, and it appears my neighbours thought similarly because no one appeared.

I very much admired Captain Tom and was so sorry to hear of his death but actions of this nature should be unexpected. It is actually quite a cynical move to use groups of people or individuals for what, in my opinion, are propaganda purposes.

That was to squirtle Squad but no idea how to link !

For those that seem to have to swear to get any point across and politicise even this, it’s not just about him is it? People are not just upset about him? It’s about him being a representation of a bygone era . People who fought for a freedom, an eccentric , a gentleman and a non whinging doer.

In a way it is a sadness for all the elderly people we have lost to covid , because we don’t know them all as individuals , he became a figurehead .
Yes he was old , but he was as bright as a button and meant a huge amount to his family as did all the others we have lost .

So each to your own , but I prefer his little sayings to some of the vitriol that’s posted on here.

And well dine to him for his unintentional mark on society he left behind. .

@BoredBeforelEvenBegan

Well you certainly live up to your name.zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Clapping isn’t respectful enough, get his face tattooed on your arm if you really want to show respect.

Collectively we should be embarrassed that the NHS is being funded by an elderly man.

Is someone clapping for my mum? Probably not. She didn't die of Covid (cancer, how respectable) and she didn't make it to an advanced age. She also didn't get a book deal, TV coverage or any of that stuff. She did raise a shitload in charity donations after her death from the people that actually knew her - not millions, granted, but amazing amounts for someone who didn't ever sell herself.

I think what Cpt Tom Moore did was great - of course it was! And I am really, really sorry for his family who grieve his loss. He was a personal relationship to them - they knew him, they loved him. But what he did wasn't so remarkable. I looked at a poster just yesterday from a local man same age hoping to raise lots by walking his garden supported by the Rotary Club. Cpt Tom Moore caught the zeitgeist and the media and associated industries bloody loved it because they needed a feel-good story to lift the national mood. But all over this country people do brilliant things, mostly unremarked upon, and they do it all the time, ceaselessly. I'm sure Cpt Tom Moore did loads for charity before he hit the headlines - people like him just do, if they're inclined to.

I'm not ever clapping about anything pandemic-related outside my house ever again. I didn't much want to the first time. And I think NHS workers of all stripes are amazing. It's performative BS and it has the potential to piss people off more than bring them together.

God bless Captain Tom Moore, and I wish his family great peace

@user1471448866 eh? You can't differentiate between the death of the mother of our future king, the princess of Wales who had her life cut short at a young age and this?

And I didn't say I cared, I asked a question to a poster (not you) because I am really genuinely curious why on earth they'd chose to go outside and start clapping about the death of this man. Not light a candle, say a prayer or have a quiet drink and think about what Tom did or what sense of collectivism he provoked or whatever.. but specifically go out and clap at the sky.

@BaliB1

Clapping isn’t respectful enough, get his face tattooed on your arm if you really want to show respect.

Collectively we should be embarrassed that the NHS is being funded by an elderly man.

The "NHS" isn't being funded by his fundraising. His fundraising efforts aren't paying doctors and nurses salaries or buying drugs.

It will go into the "NHS Charities" funding - the extras that are crucial but not in a life-saving -people will die - if not funded sense. So stuff like therapy support services, extra equipment for rehab, rather than respirators and vaccines.

It's massively valuable. But no one needs to be "embarrassed that the NHS is funded by an elderly man".

Because that's in no way accurate.

Clapping isn’t respectful enough, get his face tattooed on your arm if you really want to show respect.

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There was a thread last week about where some of the money had ended up but I'm pretty sure it got zapped. @NoSquirrels is right it doesn't go straight to the NHS it went to NHS charities. There was someone on the thread saying their sister was a nurse and got a £20 high street gift voucher from it and someone else saying their ward got some extra bits they needed.

I personally have already begun work on transforming my house into a x36 scale replica of the man.

@LakeGeneva some inspo for your home