“No onesies please as it makes the children in school jealous”

[Lemons1571]

A message from the head of our primary. Please could all parents at home please ensure their primary children are fully dressed in day clothes ready for their class 9am zoom. No onesies. Apparently the children actually allowed to go to school are annoyed seeing their classmates lounging at home in onesies / pj’s / loungewear.

Ummm, I’m sorry, I thought I heard you issuing instructions on what I must / must not do in my own house. What possible authority does a school have to do this? Kids forced out of face to face education. Being shown some lovely examples of the artwork done by the kids at school over zoom with the caveat “oh don’t worry I know you can’t do this at home”.

Read the room ffs. Just another request to put other people’s children before my own. As it happens my primary child gets dressed of his own accord, but if he wanted to wear a onesie then quite frankly anyone else’s opinion can fuck off.

Physically going to school = uniform worn as per school rules.
Physically barred from school = my house my rules.

No doubt I’m overreacting but it annoyed me!

@Xerochrysum

People who are saying this is another teacher bashing, new low to blame kids in school etc, I don't think that's the reason people are annoyed by this request from OP's HT. The wording was wrong, " Don't wear the onesie because it makes children jealous." make it sounds like children at home are having great time, when it's far from the truth. I think if the HT said please let the child wear day clothes to instill routine and right attitude to learn, or whatever, reaction could have been totally different.

I made the comment about a new low specifically to a poster who wants the kids in school told they are lucky to be there not the OP.

nannawend my daughter has seen me going to work every day working with vulnerable people in a hospital don’t think she needs educating thank you very much for your ignorant opinion.

Genuinely surprised by this, my kids do get dressed in the mornings before ‘lessons’ start, but quite often will choose to wear a onesie over their clothes because it’s nice and cosy on these chilly days and because they like the characters on them. And I’ve never thought to stop them 😳

'No onesies' is clear enough.'

Yup. I'd opt for a 'twosie', T shirt and pyjama bottoms if the house is warm, dressing gown on top if not. Definitely no cameras though, I doubt anyone from school would want to see me in bed anyway.

If ‘as it makes the children in school jealous’ is a comment actually made by the kids then these children do need to be told how lucky they are to be getting their normal education rights which the kids at home aren’t getting. If it is over protective teachers trying to isolate their pupils from the real world with their overprotective observations that’s a whole new call game.

I certainly will not be telling her how lucky she is when she comes back home with hands red raw and practically bleeding, Luck does not come into it she knows that if her mummy doesn’t go to work people won’t be discharged from hospital and there will be no hospital beds available for potentially you and your family need it. I won’t tell her she’s lucky she knows it’s what she needs to do and I do thankfully I am not bringing her up to be an aggressive person like you clearly are.

If my child came gomme from school with ‘her hands red raw and physically bleeding’ I would report to local authorities as this is abuse. What does your school head say about kids with raw and bleeding hands.

@nannawend

If ‘as it makes the children in school jealous’ is a comment actually made by the kids then these children do need to be told how lucky they are to be getting their normal education rights which the kids at home aren’t getting. If it is over protective teachers trying to isolate their pupils from the real world with their overprotective observations that’s a whole new call game.

Of course it wasn’t the kids 😂

@Glitterbug76

I certainly will not be telling her how lucky she is when she comes back home with hands red raw and practically bleeding, Luck does not come into it she knows that if her mummy doesn’t go to work people won’t be discharged from hospital and there will be no hospital beds available for potentially you and your family need it. I won’t tell her she’s lucky she knows it’s what she needs to do and I do thankfully I am not bringing her up to be an aggressive person like you clearly are.

My DS’s hands are the same, it’s the repetitive washing and hand sanitizer

@nannawend

Perhaps those kids who are in school should be told how lucky they are to be at school and that the children in their onesies would swop places tomorrow. Liberal lefties get in the real world and educate your children for life and the real world.

You're assuming that the kids actually said that they were jealous. If the kids commented then it was something like "I wish I was wearing a Pokémon onesie" rather than "It's not fair" Kids have often gone into school wearing a onesie for Children in Need or dressing up days and enjoy wearing home clothes at school.

Then who is making the assumption that they are jealous

@nannawend

If my child came gomme from school with ‘her hands red raw and physically bleeding’ I would report to local authorities as this is abuse. What does your school head say about kids with raw and bleeding hands.

Do you always over-react?

It's the handwashing. Many children react badly. Just send your own soap, no need to call the DM to show your angry face

@nannawend

Then who is making the assumption that they are jealous

We don’t know if that was the specific wording and if it was don’t you think it would be more likely to be the parents of the kids at school or the school themselves trying to fudge a reason why children should be dressed as it does foster a sense of normality

Its because they have to wash there hands so often you perhaps don’t know that. My daughter has sensitive skin. Perhaps your child or children who don’t go into school. My cousin who like me works on the front line daughter has just developed diabetes it’s suggested it could be linked to when she had covid, I’m sure that you would like me to tell her she’s lucky. I take it your not a key worker and you haven’t had to put your self on the front line potentially subjecting your family to picking up covid ??

@Xerochrysum

People who are saying this is another teacher bashing, new low to blame kids in school etc, I don't think that's the reason people are annoyed by this request from OP's HT. The wording was wrong, " Don't wear the onesie because it makes children jealous." make it sounds like children at home are having great time, when it's far from the truth. I think if the HT said please let the child wear day clothes to instill routine and right attitude to learn, or whatever, reaction could have been totally different.

They won't say that though.

I’d be irritated by this too.

Why raise issues that don’t exist. If the children aren’t finding it a problem what gives the right of over protective parents sowing the seeds of discontent. Just get on with it and don’t make a horrible situation even worse.

I do also force my kids to get dressed. But I also fully get how the OP's hackles rise at this kind of request. Without blaming anyone in particular, the whole homeschooling situation is unpleasant and invasive enough.

My friend's school decided to set a 'no screens Wednesday' (all day, not just schoolwork) for the kids. Probably on behest of the stay at home parents, who are doing a lovely job, and want to make clay figures or something.

But just the utter fury it caused, and the temerity of putting more guilt and pressure on parents who are working full time AND homeschooling - it's too much. 70% of furlough requests for childcare have been turned down, many of us are working 60 hr plus weeks to get through this. It isn't the time to give advice that makes us feel as though, despite this, we aren't good enough. That's the core problem here.

[quote Blessex]@WorraLiberty ffs. My kids clean their teeth. But if they choose to do their mandarin lesson in their onesie I am not going to lose my shit whilst I am on a call negotiating a contract.[/quote]
I vote this Most Mumsnet Post Ever.

@nannawend

Why raise issues that don’t exist. If the children aren’t finding it a problem what gives the right of over protective parents sowing the seeds of discontent. Just get on with it and don’t make a horrible situation even worse.

We don’t know that this is even the case. It is nutty to want little kids hassled for a choice that wasn’t there’s to make though.

YABU and very selfish and thoughtless

YABU.
I am fed up of being told what to do also, so can understand why it may have annoyed you. But

1. it’s a safeguarding issue, both in terms of the teacher and of your child/other children
2. the school haven’t personally barred your child. They are doing everything they can set around guidance that is being constantly updated by the government.

I don’t think the head has used the correct reason, ‘the other children are annoyed’ is pretty unprofessional IMO.

I don’t get the comment proper education either the first lock down my daughter had a class room assistant joe wicks and Bbc bite size. She actually thought that joe wicks was a pe teacher.
This time teacher does teams with all the home school children and the children in school at the same time
Do you think in between instead of having a lunch break she teaching the key worker mandarin !!!!

Expecting children to be appropriately dressed for school is reasonable. I'm taken aback that anyone would allow their kid to do otherwise.

Can someone explain what wearing a onesie has got to do with safeguarding?