WHO urges Britain to pause covid jabs after treating the vulnerable

[Jay2020]

Link

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/30/who-urges-britain-to-pause-covid-jabs-after-treating-vulnerable

I am beyond broken if this means we can't get to any kind of normality.

This is really making my blood boil.

The UK has been fundamental in vaccine development. Our scientists and genome sequencing are detecting and identifying new variants. We have our own factories making the vaccines. We are doing our bit and some to bring this pandemic under control. We've only being vaccinating since the middle of Dec, 6 weeks. We have done a really good job of it. Now people want us to scale back.

We haven't stockpiled vaccines at other people's expense. Europe and other places could have been vaccinating at the same time and at the same pace if they hadn't fart arsed around. Other country's vaccines are delayed by their own government's inadequacies, red tape, and/ or corruption.

The UK is doing better than anyone else so let's cut them down a peg or 2 to bring them down to our level. Let's drag it out longer and have more people die.

What utter bullshit. How's about we crack on with what we are doing and then when we have saved ourselves we can then go out and help others. The WHO forget that they caused COVID to spread by lying and siding with their paymasters China in the early days.

Also, it doesn't just kill elderly people. It is now killing people in their 40's and 50's. I've said throughout the past months that one of the most vulnerable groups are middle-aged men, who are slightly overweight. Vaccinate the top 4 groups only and let everyone go back to commuting and pass it around and then you will start to see many more deaths in younger groups.

If you agree with WHO then fine, pass on your vaccine when you are contacted. I won't be. As someone who lost a family member to this back in May, I certainly will not be supporting what WHO says and expect my government to deliver on its promise to vaccinate all adults before Autumn. What I would like to see is everyone here vaccinated and as soon as it looks like it is going that way, for our Govt. to share out the other vaccines to the poorest countries. We can do this in parallel once we have got over the bump.

In Morocco they will start to vaccinate over 40s from next week.

For me, the fact we are doing so well at vaccinating just shows how selfish we are.

Hahahahaha that’s the funniest thing I have read on any of these threads, I needed a good laugh, thanks!

Also the world will never be an even place we have drugs and vaccines here that we don't think twice about ,that in other countries they don't that could save lives.
Sad but true.
People want the world vaccinated because covid needs to be challenged around the world so it stays out of your country etc so they ultimately want it to save them as well.
Someone dying because they don't have access to antibiotics doesn't affect them.

@Wherediditgo

I think Perfect28 is getting an unfair thrashing here! I just thought after I posted the above, I’ve had Covid. It was very mild and I was absolutely fine. Is it really fair for me to be vaccinated for something that didn’t even cause me to have time off work while people all over the world are dying of it?? It just feels wrong.

Yes because while you yourself might be 'fine' you could still transmit the virus to someone who could get a severe dose.

The BBC website is sad. I try not to go on it.

It was truly excellent at one point too.

Human nature is selfish. Doesn't mean we can't try, but recognising our flaws would be a good start, and would prevent some of the cruel finger pointing

I didn't realise it was such a novel idea. Looking back at history & what currently goes on in the world I thought it was generally accepted.

OK so let's vaccinate a task force of volunteers to help vaccinate others then. How is that an argument for vaccinating all of our healthy and young?

Good on Morocco, I'd heard they were raring to go.

Is it really fair for me to be vaccinated for something that didn’t even cause me to have time off work while people all over the world are dying of it

Remember that last week the UK had the highest death rate per capital in the whole world.

This is one of those inverse situations where a normally rich country like the UK allowed the virus to become so rampant that unusually we have the worst rates in the world.

Many poorer countries took the only options available to them last year and closed their borders. This meant they have much better case rates and death rates than us.

It takes a mind-change to acknowledge that the place in the world where "people all over the world are dying of it" most is actually right here in the UK.

Our government's strategy will be proven in history to be one of the worst in the world and the only sensible approach is to direct vaccines to those areas where case rates and death rates are highest, and while this is not just the UK, it certainly includes the UK.

Have the WHO heard of Taiwan yet?😂

The BBC website is sad. I try not to go on it.

It’s so slow at reporting too.

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Someone dying through lack of antibiotics you don't here such loud shouting as ultimately it doesn't affect them , where as covid not being managed could.
Im not against waiting if safe to do (once we have bit better idea ) and vaccines being diverted so all vulnerable can have , as long as the list is the same and this is applied to all countries and not just a few.

It's so complicated that I don't feel I can judge on what we or others should do for the best.

What I do know though is that it's scary that there is such a precious and yet rare commodity with such a high value to the entire world.

I can't help but feel that this way a war lies. Anyone remember oil in the Middle East?

@MaxNormal I apologise if I have misunderstood you.

Have the WHO heard of Taiwan yet?

Yeah that is outrageous

@Perfect28 no worries I was trying to make a point but perhaps didn't phrase it very well then.

Yes because while you yourself might be 'fine' you could still transmit the virus to someone who could get a severe dose.

But it’s now pretty apparent who gets a ‘severe dose’ and it’s almost always people with certain underlying conditions
The number of healthy young(ish) people getting it badly is vanishingly small

So you include those with underlying conditions are vulnerable, and then pause?

@Perfect28 how do you determine the list of countries & people who need it more?

@Sparechange do you know what the list of underlying conditions are?

*Hungary vaccinating athletes first?

SEE ?! Other countries just want the vaccine, they are not wringing their hands over vulnerable people. Poland have prioritised actors and officials; Germany has MPs ahead of the vulnerable*

Hungary vaccinating athletes first?

There are many extra people in the UK now, with mental health problems. I dont call it selfish, for them to have the vaccines if they want them, before a Hungarian athlete or a Polish actor.

BoGo I think it is a fixed mindset issue.

There was a young medic / charity spokesperson on TV weeks ago talking about vaccines for poorer countries and I was thinking then that logic in this particular disease is that older, fatter, more inactive populations are far more at risk.

The mental health crisis is huge right now here.

It's mass trolling tbh!