EU has triggered article 16 over controls on vaccine exports

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@FlaviaAlbiaWantsLangClegBack

It's one product that is already available.

We can't get batteries and loads of other stuff posted here from GB, that makes more impact on my life than this.

I think than England made this mess mostly and we're having to put up with the shit show they created so I don't have much sympathy for their government not being able to bring vaccines in by using us as a back door.

How? How has "England" created a mess with a contract signed between the EU and a company that is part British, part Swedish and probably has many overseas shareholders?

There are some very strange posts on this thread. Was there any suggestion at all that the UK government would "steal" vaccines from NI for the rest of the UK?

I'm just pointing out that stuff like that has far more impact on life here that this has.

But it will be used by politicians for their own ends and gain and half the people whinging about how unjust the EU is won't have to live with the consequences of the divisions crested by those politicians.

Oh yeah... Batteries... See that over 80 year olds here and in other countries like Australia, sweating over whether they will get a second jab of a life saving vaccine

Well, it was an English party that called a Brexit vote and England and Wales who voted for it as a majority so yes, I'd say that's creating a mess.

@ZooKeeper19 bless!

What a knobber.

@FlaviaAlbiaWantsLangClegBack

I'm just pointing out that stuff like that has far more impact on life here that this has.

But it will be used by politicians for their own ends and gain and half the people whinging about how unjust the EU is won't have to live with the consequences of the divisions crested by those politicians.

So basically, you having trouble finding AA batteries in your local Tesco's means it's fine for the EU to play fast and loose with a highly sensitive agreement reached after 4 years of tortuous discussions?

CaptainMarvelDanvers

I’d absolutely agree with that!

I don’t regret studying law though, it’s been worth it.

I don't think people should necessarily look at one desperate act and completely generalise that every aspect of being in the EU is negative. That's far too simplistic.

They have made some bad choices. They backed the French vaccine and it bombed. We have been lucky.

What about the poorer nations. We are all fucking losers if those countries do not get vaccinated!

3 months ago not a peep from leavers, because of the remainers.

Now, not a peep from remainers. My, how the tables have turned.

@FlaviaAlbiaWantsLangClegBack

Well, it was an English party that called a Brexit vote and England and Wales who voted for it as a majority so yes, I'd say that's creating a mess.

Well, if you want to go by that 'logic', it's 'England' that's ensuring that vaccines are being rolled out in NI at a much faster rate than across the border.

Would you be happier being part of the EU vaccination scheme?

"But the EU believed this could be used to circumvent export controls, with NI becoming a backdoor to the wider UK."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55864442

Northern Ireland on sky, her voice is shaking!.. Said its an incredible act of hostility.

Arghhhhhhh, Northern Ireland s first minister..

I'm gonna sound thick here but what does article 16 mean for us? The news channel I am watching is as clear as mud about it.

Well, to a certain extent, yes. It makes much more sense someone on the same island as me getting the vaccine before me because they're more vulnerable due to work or illness.

Love, this is not the first bad act at all, maybe it's the first one, people are interested in?

This is the last in a long line of awful acts or lack of action.

@FlaviaAlbiaWantsLangClegBack

Well, it was an English party that called a Brexit vote and England and Wales who voted for it as a majority so yes, I'd say that's creating a mess.

I wanted to remain in the EU, but whatever you think of David Cameron's stupid decision to call a referendum this is nothing to do with the UK (sorry "English" government), and everything to do with the EU making decisions that have turned out badly (especially the Sanofi one).

The UK could have ordered its own stock of vaccine if we'd still been in the EU. In fact we were in the transition period when we did.

We may see companies pulling production out of the EU due to threats to intellectual data. They are totally destroying their international reputation. USA not happy. What are they thinking?? It's utter madness.

I'm thinking more of the divisions it's caused in society. The loyalist paramilitaries gearing up.

It's hard not to look back before Brexit and see how much we've lost so quickly.

@FlaviaAlbiaWantsLangClegBack

Well, to a certain extent, yes. It makes much more sense someone on the same island as me getting the vaccine before me because they're more vulnerable due to work or illness.

You're really not making sense.

The EU has phucked up the vaccine procurement scheme but Britain has done a very good job. People in Northern Ireland will benefit from that.

We ordered our own stock and were massively shot 👇 for being utterly stupid and reckless! And not availing ourselves of the wonderful joy of working in unison with the others!!

Four years of Brexit negotiations to avoid a hard border on the island of Ireland. 21 years of the Good Friday Agreement. All potentially blown to smithereens by the stroke of a bureaucrat’s pen in Brussels.

What the fuck do they think they are doing?

I don't see what's hard to understand.

I live on the Island of Ireland. Yes, in Northern Ireland but we're all on one island. The idea of me getting the vaccine while someone more vulnerable has to wait just because they live on the other side of the border isnt exactly a happy one is it?

www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/corona-impfstoff-knappheit-die-eu-hat-einen-machtverlust-erlitten-und-das-bekommt-sie-jetzt-zu-spueren-a-7dc4101c-abb8-4883-b4f6-4acad29b5acb

Good article from Germany's Spiegel about the Commission's mindset and desperation at root of its antics.

@MaddieElla

3 months ago not a peep from leavers, because of the remainers.

Now, not a peep from remainers. My, how the tables have turned.

You'll hear from me, but I was a floating voter right up until I voted remain on the day. My spirit is that of a leave voter.