Vaccine queue jumping making me feel angry

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SIL has been vaccinated already- she is a healthy 40 year old, works from home, no caring responsibilities.

It's made me feel surprisingly angry. I'm not clear how she managed it at this point. On a personal level I like SIL so am pleased for her but god I feel angry at the injustice.

I know some people have picked up "spare" doses but surely even the spare doses should be managed according to health priorities? Eg at least finding someone in groups 1-9 to vaccinate if not in groups 1-4.

AIBU to feel angry about this?

I don’t think it’s particularly mean spirited to be honest. It’s been drummed into us that PEOPLE WILL DIE. If you’re higher up the priority list than the queue jumpers then there is a high probability that YOU will die. It’s not really so bad to have a normal emotional reaction, over someone who’s lower risk getting the chance to lower their risk even further, while you remain just as vulnerable.

My employer has negotiate with the CQC and agreed we can be counted as group 2 and get vaccinated. We aren’t front line health and social care workers but do work closely with them.

So maybe it’s something like that?

I mean CCG.....blimey I have CQC on the brain today!

Yes YABU every fucking day someone is moaning that somebody else has got the vaccine
FFS give it a rest. Let's throw them all away until every person can get it at exactly the same time

@Covidcorvid

My employer has negotiate with the CQC and agreed we can be counted as group 2 and get vaccinated. We aren’t front line health and social care workers but do work closely with them.

So maybe it’s something like that?

I hope it’s not my CCG, we’re already well behind the rest of the country here.

@Covidcorvid

My employer has negotiate with the CQC and agreed we can be counted as group 2 and get vaccinated. We aren’t front line health and social care workers but do work closely with them.

So maybe it’s something like that?

Can I ask what line of business?

If the CCG is allowing vaccination of people indirectly connected with health/social care, they should consider the families of ICU/critical care/Covid ward staff who are exposed to very high virus levels from these staff members. I know critical care nurses who are still having to wear uniforms that they have to bring home and wash in their home machines after spending all day wearing these uniforms treating Covid patients.

Can I ask what line of business?

Nursing lecturers, other healthcare lecturers. So as well as face to face teaching in a classroom with students who are working on the wards (inc covid wards) in normal times we visit the students on the wards when they’re on placement.

@Backbee and @ancientgran thank you for your supporting messages, I went online this morning and will be having my vaccine early next week. I didn’t think there would be a centre near me but there lots! The relief is huge.

@Covidcorvid

Thanks - it is interesting to hear.

I am happy for the individuals who get vaccinated and don't consider it queue jumping in any way. The way the system is set up means this would always happen and can be justified.

I would point out though that not everyone on the priority list is elderly or frail or extremely vulnerable. Those groups have already been invited at this stage or will be very shortly.
There are several priority levels below level 4 that are relatively mobile and could attend a vaccination site at short notice even at anti-social times so the explanation that elderly and frail people cannot be mobilised at 10pm so the only option is to give it to healthy young people is not true.

As I mentioned earlier I am on priority level 6. Ironically I did volunteer in December as a non-medical volunteer at a vaccination site but the volunteer organiser told me it wasn't a good idea and I should wait for a vaccine first. Now all those volunteers are classed as healthcare workers and are in level 3 and already vaccinated ahead of me. So if I had ignored here and insisted on volunteering I would be vaccinated by now. And the health volunteers she selected for volunteering ended up in priority level 3! No wonder she now has a very long list of reserve people on a waiting list desperate to volunteer!

DH and I have both had the vaccine. We're both on Furlough and have been volunteering at a vaccine centre. We were offered defrosted Pfizer's at the end of vax clinic (after loads of no shows!) .. should we have refused? we're both priority 6

@Trunkysbun

DH and I have both had the vaccine. We're both on Furlough and have been volunteering at a vaccine centre. We were offered defrosted Pfizer's at the end of vax clinic (after loads of no shows!) .. should we have refused? we're both priority 6

Absolutely not. And I have a sneaking suspicion that people like the OP wouldn't have either

I think it is totally fine to get the vaccine if you are volunteering there and it's ready and available and would otherwise be wasted.
And you are priority 6, after all.

I do think the GPs should give the vaccination sites a list of people not currently in the eligible priority levels (so that is level 5 downwards I think) who have expressly stated they can come at short notice.

At the moment, my GP will not engage with anyone who is not in level 4 and above, but at the end of vaccination days they do find themselves with leftover vaccine and everyone agrees it shouldn't be wasted and so there are no criteria for who gets called in so the people at the vaccination hub have the task of deciding who gets it at the end of a long tiring day as described by a pp. The GPs do know who is in group 5 and and 6 and are desperate, because people like this would have made contact and said they can come at short notice.

You could have just posted in aibu that you dislike your SIL. It was a spare one, she did not elbow anyone out of the way. I rather have them use spares for non priority groups then binning them.

what an odd thing to get worked up about.

You could have just posted in aibu that you dislike your SIL

I don't see it as queue jumping. Waste not want not!

However friend getting it just because she works for the NHS in a senior role is queue jumping I think but what can you do? 🤷‍♀️

Bit tactless gleefully announcing it on social media and teacher friends up in arms 😤 but as the government itself had proved, if you know people in power who can do you favour then go for it. 🤔

@RiverSkater

I don't see it as queue jumping. Waste not want not!

However friend getting it just because she works for the NHS in a senior role is queue jumping I think but what can you do? 🤷‍♀️

Bit tactless gleefully announcing it on social media and teacher friends up in arms 😤 but as the government itself had proved, if you know people in power who can do you favour then go for it. 🤔

I agree it is tactless to announce it on sm. Did your teacher friends write that they weren’t happy on the post? That must have been awkward!

However friend getting it just because she works for the NHS in a senior role is queue jumping I think but what can you do? 🤷‍♀️

She is an NHS employee? Sorry, I don't understand why that would be queue jumping.

However friend getting it just because she works for the NHS in a senior role is queue jumping I think but what can you do? 🤷‍♀️

What’s the problem with that?

@VinylDetective

However friend getting it just because she works for the NHS in a senior role is queue jumping I think but what can you do? 🤷‍♀️

What’s the problem with that?

She has an office job working from home?

Yeah my NDN got it as a 'front line worker'. She hasn't worked at all (never mind for the NHS) for 5 years since her first child was born. She is a SAHM. On the one hand you might shrug and say she may as well have it as anyone else, but with all my elderly parents and PIL still waiting (all in their 70s, most with underlying health conditions) I do wonder how much queue jumping is going on and what effect it's having.

DH has his this afternoon, I'm driving him because I have an errand nearby. I'm CV (group 6) and work in a school and he fully intends to ask if there are any spares and can I have one. I'm prepared for them to say no and I wouldn't take one from someone else but a spare at the end of the day? Damn right I want it!
Meanwhile people in groups 1 to 5 will still be waiting. Well done.

I’m Group 5 @ancientgran and that’s absolutely fine by me, because I understand that where millions of people are involved you can’t be spending a lifetime pondering over exactly what order people should be done in.

@RiverSkater

I don't see it as queue jumping. Waste not want not!

However friend getting it just because she works for the NHS in a senior role is queue jumping I think but what can you do? 🤷‍♀️

Bit tactless gleefully announcing it on social media and teacher friends up in arms 😤 but as the government itself had proved, if you know people in power who can do you favour then go for it. 🤔

I’m a teacher and I must admit I felt bitter when a parent of a child in my DD’s class paired she had the vaccine. She works 10 hours a week in hospital records although has been off work sick with anxiety for the last year. There will always be loopholes and people want to ‘get back to normal’. I just hope the vaccinated still adhere to social distancing measures and they’re not relaxed too so those of who who aren’t vaccinated - and won’t be for some time - can still be offered some protection.

However friend getting it just because she works for the NHS in a senior role is queue jumping I think but what can you do? 🤷‍♀️

What’s the problem with that?

Lots of my senior nhs working friends haven’t set foot in a hospital since March and work solely from home, they’ve been vaccinated before the over 70s and CEV.

It’s a bit annoying but I guess the more vaccinated the better for herd immunity and all that.

@TooManyDinosaurs1

My sister works for the nhs in an office based role, her office isn’t based anywhere near the hospital and she’s been working from home since March. She’s 27 and very fit and healthy. She got the vaccine about 4 weeks ago through work. My mum couldn’t believe it (though she’s obviously pleased she got it) my mum is a nurse looking after covid patients, she knows paramedics still waiting for their call up!! She can’t understand why nhs office staff who never see patients anyway and who are literally never leaving the house are being offered it before people who are dealing with covid positive patients on a daily basis, it’s madness.

I know someone else who is office based nhs staff, she’s 30 and again healthy, currently on mat leave and not due back until September and she got hers weeks ago too! She’s not even at work!!! She advertised it all over Facebook too, posting her appointment card and that she’d been done, I had to sit on my hands not to comment!

But your mum is eligible. I assume that is just bad management practice in her own department and lack of information sharing.

@LucyLockdown

Yeah my NDN got it as a 'front line worker'. She hasn't worked at all (never mind for the NHS) for 5 years since her first child was born. She is a SAHM. On the one hand you might shrug and say she may as well have it as anyone else, but with all my elderly parents and PIL still waiting (all in their 70s, most with underlying health conditions) I do wonder how much queue jumping is going on and what effect it's having.

I don’t understand how she managed to get one then?