I cant see schools going back at Easter

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If the new variant is more deadly

I really dont think they'll open before summer

The government need to get a plan if action now

I dont think shops etc will open up either, we need much more people vaccinated twice to see if the vaccines help us

Shit.

@DfEisashambles - I can’t fathom why people have to start a new thread on the same topic every single day when there has been no significant change in the overall situation. Why not just join one of the thousands of others that already exist full of people wondering when, if, how schools will eventually re-open!

The reason I object to these threads (not that I'd say anyone shouldn't post them, they can post what they want) is there is a distinct lack of factual information and a lot of speculation that makes people who are already anxious even more anxious.

@Inastatus it goes without saying that on the eve of this announcement of new developments (possibly postponing schools re-opening) there will be a new thread.

Simply don’t click on the school threads.

So basic... I warm weather have huge gazebos in school playing fields.

I thought it would be Easter. But I agree op in that I fear it will be longer. And it’s not just the vulnerable children that need help. My DH and I work. So our 2 DC get very poor home schooling.

@ChimaeraEgg as is the case with most covid threads. You’ve contributed to this schools one and I’ve learned from you, they can be useful too and many insightful posters say just as much to calm people down.

Everything depends on the vaccination programme, which is exceeding expectation (because, thank providence, the NHS and the Army are organising it rather than a private company.
Remaining hopeful for after Easter here.

Covid won't go away, the same as flu hasn't gone away.

But we have vaccines, that can be tweaked for new variants' that hopefully a lot of adults will take up. We will have better treatments, the weather will get warmer and this will help too.

Sure we might have to wear masks for a while yet and maybe huge concerts won't take place again this year but stop with the doom and gloom. Spanish flu killed millions and it turned into normal flu (still around) today without a vaccine or decent treatments. What makes lots of people convinced that the world will end this time.

What makes lots of people convinced that the world will end this time.

I don't know if I necessarily agree with your rhetoric but I do know that, in the west at least, people generally lead lives that are relatively free of hardship or curbs on their freedom. So such a huge seismic shift is very hard to come to terms with.

It relates to what I was saying about my Dad earlier. You don't realise how quickly everything can change. One minute he was a child in a very liberal country, living a happy life with parents and siblings who loved him, the next people were being openly gunned down in the street and removed from their homes at night never to be seen again. Most people in the west have no experience of that sort of thing on a collective national level. So for many of us this it is unfathomable that this has happened and we can't picture it ever getting better. Whereas if you talked to my Dad he would tell you that better times are coming because they always do.

Note this is not me saying that we should feel grateful because others have it worse- I hate that!

@velveteenrabbittales @GrumblyMumblyisnotJumbly @LynetteScavo so all of us seem to be on the same page then. The ‘everything’s fine have a jab’ veneer seems to be fading...

No false hope of ‘Easter egg hunts’ etc to celebrate a victorious lockdown

Getting serious on border control as is everyone else

Tokyo Olympics cancelled again admission they can’t go ahead

Strains popping up too often for my liking

Vaccine delay tactics, lots of manufacturers, all very confusing and distracting, what is in them exactly, here have a jab, don’t know when the next one will be.

Drip drip of ‘maybe’ vax won’t work against new strains

Rumours of reinfection becoming more common

Its 13 in a 1000. Instead of 10 in a thousand!!
Ffs!!!

@Didyousaynutella or

3000 for every 1 million
30000 for every 10 million
300000 for every 100 million

It’s a lot when you play with those numbers on a global scale. Factor in further mutations and it becomes a bit of a potential dangerous mess

Thewiseoneincognito

Do you think your posts are helpful to those feeling anxious on this thread? How do you think they will help?

I think it is always hard to see a way out when we are in the darkest of times. I remember last March/April was the same and we did see some light.

These things just dont last forever - they simply dont. We just have to keep on going

@Thewiseoneincognito But what are you trying to say? This is all deliberate? For what reason?

I honestly don't understand why people with crippling anxiety put themselves through the trauma of these threads.

Schools will go back when transmission is at a manageable level and the R rate has reduced. Nobody knows more than this. Viruses mutate all the time. It's what they do.

There us good news. Cases are coming down, quite significantly in some areas it is no surprise Glastonbury and the Olympic have been cancelled. These events 100s of thousands of people and require mass movement of people. We shouldn't then think these cancellations are anything but expected and sensible.

There us a good news thread on here. Can I suggest those who feel these threads made their anxiety worse come on over.

The figures were based on over 60 males. So you can’t multiply that over the whole population either.

So long as they vaccinate the TAs and teachers then I think back at Easter.
Teachers and TAs had 333% higher rate of infection than the rest of the community last term so the government need to protect us!
Opening a window a crack, if you are lucky enough, is not good enough.

@ChimaeraEgg those figures help put into perspective the point that @Didyousaynutella was trying to imply that it was ‘13 in a 1000 instead of 10 in a 1000 FFS!’ (Her words)

it’s only another 3? Of course it is but Then you multiply it and all of a sudden her FFS remark seems juvenile and misleading, intentional?

@ChimaeraEgg I would hope those of an anxious nature are avoiding these threads, mainly because of the false hope being peddled in some twisted fashion as though it’s going to manifest DC into being back at school during a global pandemic.

Has anyone else been on the jolly denial thread yet?

Echobelly

I don't think there is evidence the new strain is more deadly, just more people have it“

Unfortunately, there is. According to today’s briefing, 30-40% higher mortality.

@OwlWearingGlasses

So long as they vaccinate the TAs and teachers then I think back at Easter. Teachers and TAs had 333% higher rate of infection than the rest of the community last term so the government need to protect us! Opening a window a crack, if you are lucky enough, is not good enough.

People working in food service, for example, are also far more likely to get covid than the general population and are also more likely to be from high risk groups. Border staff are more critical than ever, more likely to get ill, and we are massively under-resourced post Brexit. Why should teachers get vaccinated asap while these groups have to wait, especially as there is no chance for even the vulnerable among them to work from home? Once the group of vulnerable.(not just critically vulnerable) teachers are vaccinated, I'm not sure I'd support everyone else being a priority.

Otherwise you'll end up with a healthy female 25 year old teacher, with a tiny risk of severe illness, being vaccinated ahead of a 52 year old bame and overweight delivery driver. That doesn't seem like fairness, nor is it likely to be medically the best outcome.

Any one providing mask free personal care should be right up at the top of the list. In my opinion, this includes a lot of SEN teachers and assistants. I cannot see how a delivery driver has anything comparable in terms of exposure. Vaccination is hopefully not just about preventing hospitalisation, but about creating barriers to spread. People who have close contact with many others being removed from the pool of people the virus can use as a vector is also important.

@DenisetheMenace that is true but it’s gone from 1% to 1.3% in over 60 males. Saying 30-40% higher mortality alone can be misread here and cause panic.

And can I add that’s in people who get it not the whole population. I’m not saying this isn’t important and worrying but things can be twisted and read out of context. We need to be rational.