Lockdown until summer?

[Thedarksideofthemoon30]

Arghhhhhhhhhh.....

I actually can’t take anymore. I’m barely holding on by a thread as it is and I’m really trying to not read the news but it’s everywhere.

I was expecting March/April but summer?!

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9172621/Boris-Johnson-refuses-rule-lockdown-lasting-SUMMER.html

Boris actually said restrictions unlike to be lifted.

Not lockdown unlike to be lifted.

To different things

We all know that we will live under slowly decreasing restrictions for sometime

The media is a complete arse some times. Again a story about nothing. How many has that been in the last 48 hours?

The article states that scientists have delivered a "grim warning" that vaccines will not be enough to stop the spread and restrictions will continue. How is anyone meant to feel hopeful reading that? People can be rude and dismissive towards the OP but it is written in black and white.

We've been locked down in Wales since December 21st and cases are now at their lowest in some areas since October. Add in the vaccination schedule and I would be absolutely baffled if we were still locked down towards the end of Spring.

*unlikely

Yes I heard this on the bbc news @Thedarksideofthemoon30

Really thought I was hearing things.

Also heard this new strain is much more infectious and more virulent, meaning it makes you more ill.

Jesus Christ

@LucilleTheVampireBat

The article states that scientists have delivered a "grim warning" that vaccines will not be enough to stop the spread and restrictions will continue. How is anyone meant to feel hopeful reading that? People can be rude and dismissive towards the OP but it is written in black and white.

The scientists have said the vaccines are not likely to complete stop the virus. We have known this all along. The plan is to stop people getting seriously ill and dieing. Which the vaccine has been proven to do.

@ssd

Yes I heard this on the bbc news *@Thedarksideofthemoon30*

Really thought I was hearing things.

Also heard this new strain is much more infectious and more virulent, meaning it makes you more ill.

Jesus Christ

No it doesn't make people more ill.

It infections more people

Big difference

The percentage of people needing hospitalisation is more because there are more people catching the virus.

Also heard this new strain is much more infectious and more virulent, meaning it makes you more ill.

Where have you heard the new strain makes you more ill @ssd? Everything I’ve read states there is no evidence it makes ton more ill, just transmits more easily. They are very different things.

Why do people say "if it goes on much longer people will refuse to comply"? With all non-essential businesses closed, no leisure activities in my area e.g swimming allowed I have no choice but to 'comply' as there is fuck all else to do. Government can continue that for as long as they want.

The non compliance will be meeting friends and family. Inside and out.

I heard it on the news tonight. I was shocked, I understood it is more contagious, but didnt make you more ill, but apparently it does.

I hope I heard it wrong.

I heard this too and was surprised. I think what's difficult this time round compared to the first lockdown is that everyone is having quite different experiences. For example, I know a lot of people who resent the fact that so many children are in school and seem to be getting a better deal than their children. I think this makes it harder for everyone.

@LucilleTheVampireBat

The article states that scientists have delivered a "grim warning" that vaccines will not be enough to stop the spread and restrictions will continue. How is anyone meant to feel hopeful reading that? People can be rude and dismissive towards the OP but it is written in black and white.

It might be written in black and white, but it's written by the Daily Mail who are not exactly known for their sensible, balanced science reporting. They are not the only ones guilty of this of course, but what they are reporting on is a pre-print (not yet peer reviewed) study, these should always be treated with caution and in any case as usual it's a bit more complicated than their over-simplistic reporting of it: www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-a-preprint-on-vaccines-and-herd-immunity/

That would only be 4 more weeks then you were expecting. No one knows what will happen.

He can’t rule it out because then a changing situation would mean he’d have to backtrack. They’ve done that too many times so the line of never confirming anything is politically right.

I do question when we will ever get freedoms back because I’m in a pit of doom, not because I truly believe we have moved to a dictatorship.

As for people not complying and rising up? We’ve been saying that from the first time, it won’t happen, people are too weary.

It's been reported on the BBC as well as the Fail. We won't know how long schools will be closed, it depends on what happens to deaths, hospitals, virus rates, vaccination roll out....all sorts of things which may change between now and the summer.

However, I for one am incredibly pleased that Boris is keeping an open mind and is prepared to keep schools closed for longer in order to make this the last major lockdown....very wise. We can't keep opening up and then locking down again, better to do it properly this time. Schools should certainly be shut until Easter and thereafter, well, we need to see.....

@CoffeeandCroissant thanks for the link, very interesting and quite reassuring by some of the scientists.

The Daily Mail has had several headline articles just this week

Lockdown until March

Lockdown until Easter

Lockdown until summer

Schools closed until half term/ Easter/ May / June etc etc

Tomorrow it will be : lockdown until Christmas

It's all sensationalism and often taken out of context

For example, a politician will be asked

'Will we have restrictions until summer?'

Politician - 'it's too early to speculate on when restrictions will be lifted'

Generates the headline 'LOCKDOWN UNTIL SUMMER - government refuses to rule out a 6 month lockdown'

@Hairwizard Poland too apparently. It's amazing how people's fear of the virus diminishes when their ability to feed and house themselves is threatened.

The government has (for once) taken a consistent line that they won’t speculate on when lockdown might end.

This story came out of today’s lobby briefing where the PM’s spokesman stuck to the line against questions designed to elicit that kind of headline.

Ie: ‘can you rule out that lockdown could continue to the summer?’
‘I’m not going to speculate on when restrictions might be lifted.’

Repeat ad infinitum. Nothing at today’s lobby suggested lockdown until summer was likely or a probability - simply that the government isn’t (currently) being drawn on likely timeframes.

The vaccination programme is going apace and, I think (happy to be corrected) ahead of schedule nationwide.
Hang on in there. My husband hasn’t left the house barring fearful medical appointments since last February. Our vulnerable youngest hasn’t attended College since then to keep himself/dad safe. We get our shopping online and I, younger than DH and fit and healthy, only dare venture out in the pissing rain and dark when sane people are at home. I haven’t hugged my daughter or son in law or cuddled our 6 month old first grandchild.
But we will be vaccinated, we will do those things again and they will be the sweeter for it.
❤️

Seems sensible given the numbers. Thankfully I don’t put just over a year’s disruption to my child’s education over the welfare of his teaching staff so I don’t mind.

@Thatusernamewastaken

Seems sensible given the numbers. Thankfully I don’t put just over a year’s disruption to my child’s education over the welfare of his teaching staff so I don’t mind.

@Thatusernamewastaken

Seems sensible given the numbers. Thankfully I don’t put just over a year’s disruption to my child’s education over the welfare of his teaching staff so I don’t mind.

Just out of interest at what point is your child at in their education? It’s pretty easy to take the moral high ground if they’re KS1. Not so much if they’re y11 or y13

@maxnormal

Dp facetimed with a friend 2-3 weeks back. His friend is italian. Lives in naples i think. Dp was asking how things were there. He sort of laughed and said 'soon the people will be cannibalizing each other for there is no money.' Italian gov not paying anyone anything.
All these people bleating about stricter lockdown clearly arent financially affected.