Highest number of daily deaths today, beating the previous record from yesterday

[StealthPolarBear]

I suppose we knew this was coming but it is incredibly worrying and depressing

It’s horrendous. Sadly exactly as predicted and expected but very painful to see.

We have more knowledge about the virus than we did last year. We wear masks, we socially distance, we follow lockdowns and bubbles guidances, we have better hospital treatments YET we are still seeing such horrific death rates even worse than last year.

It’s terrifying.

It’s very upsetting, but cases seem to be decreasing, which is good.

Based on current numbers, when can we expect to see the (awful) number of deaths levelling off a bit?

(Sorry I realise people here may not know but wondered if its been mentioned anywhere. I'm not watching much news / the press conferences)

Would I be correct in the the high positive case rates we were seeing recently, mean the death rate will get worse? (Given the time lag between contracting it and becoming seriously ill)

Yes, this should be the peak, this time. Next week should see a levelling off... or am I a whole week out?

I'm time fuddled, I think!

Crunchy that's what I am wondering too. I don't like to speculate.

I imagine we won’t see an improvement in the death rates for about another 10-14 days considering that infection rates have only started dropping in the last few days.

World beating...

Cases peaked about a week ago I think, and I think there's roughly a fortnight lag between cases and deaths, so I wouldn't be surprised if deaths keep rising for another week before they start to fall :(

This will not be the peak sadly. Deaths lag behind infections.

I wonder the same, how bad is it going to get!? Obviously the positive cases have been coming down each day, but there is a lag before some of these 'cases' turn into deaths. Over 1800 now, will we reach 2000 in the next few days? How long before the numbers go down significantly!? It's all so sad and horrible.

Truly shocking numbers.

And worrying news coming from Israel throwing doubt on delaying the second jab.

We've only just started to drop below 50,000 new cases a day and deaths lag behind cases by about 2 weeks. Unfortunately, I think we can expect the deaths to hit 2,000 a day and stay there for awhile before they start to drop back down again.

I couldn’t believe the government delayed the second jab (well I can because they’re they’re idiots) and I think, because of that decision, the vaccines aren’t going to be the miracle cure that government wants them to be.

@ThornAmongstRoses

I couldn’t believe the government delayed the second jab (well I can because they’re they’re idiots) and I think, because of that decision, the vaccines aren’t going to be the miracle cure that government wants them to be.

I think they made the right choice.

Yes so do I, as I understand it. Decent amount of preotection for twice as many people vs even better protection for half
If it's more complicated than that I am willing to learn more.

@AKissAndASmile

And worrying news coming from Israel throwing doubt on delaying the second jab.

A new serological study conducted at an Israeli hospital found that 98 percent of hospital workers who received the second dose of the coronavirus vaccine have developed a high level of antibodies to fight off the virus.

www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-hospital-98-of-staff-who-got-2nd-shot-have-high-level-covid-antibodies/

We need to take Israel's lead, they are doing it by the book according to the timescales Pfizer recommends the vx 1 + 2 should be administered.

The thought of another week or more of these horrific death numbers is awful.

@Mindymomo - cases are actually increasing again

@CuriousaboutSamphire - I thought Chris Whitty said on Monday that the peak would be mid Feb.

@ThornAmongstRoses

I couldn’t believe the government delayed the second jab (well I can because they’re they’re idiots) and I think, because of that decision, the vaccines aren’t going to be the miracle cure that government wants them to be.

That's interesting as all the experts I've heard talking about this agree with the decsion.

Can you expand on how you're reached your conclusion

Is this still the cases that would have happened due to Christmas mixing? They warned of a peak in January but didn't think the death rate would be worst yet.

Remember there is also a lag between the people dying and the cases being reported, so this data is about 5 days behind.