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Woman kicked out of Sainsbury’s

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Givemeabreak88 · 19/01/2021 19:19

I don’t know if this has been posted already but I posted the other day about how to prove face mask exemptions and basically got told they can’t ask for proof well it seems that is wrong and they can ask you what your disability is and ask for proof.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/uknews/13776780/shopper-kicked-out-sainsburys-face-mask-covid/amp/

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PaddingtonsSister · 19/01/2021 20:44

@FraggleShingleBellRock

Seriously, you lot think I would even WANT to carry a card on me 24/7 that reminds me constantly that I'm a member of the "raped as a kid" club?

Why not give different categories different cards so people know at a glance hire they are Not Like The Rest Of Society. Or maybe badges that we can wear on our striped pyjamas so you can ask give us a really wide birth at the same time. Or maybe like another poster said, we could just all stay in the shadows and live off charity in a big communal house for the sick .

Your card would just say EXEMPT it wouldn’t need details
And of course Not all rape victims or violent victims wont be able to wear masks Just like some people with autism or any other condition are fine with them
LangClegsInSpace · 19/01/2021 20:46

But the numbers would go up, and would have gone up, significantly higher if not for masks. When mask mandates are put into effect, numbers go down. They don't stop infections entirely, of course. But they're a vital prophylactic.

Is this true? I'd love to see some evidence because I haven't come across any so far.

I'm sure masks help a bit, but not enough to justify the level of nastiness and discrimination towards those who are unable to wear one.

Miramour · 19/01/2021 20:47

[quote musicalfrog]@StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind I didn't say she didn't need to eat (which was the first part of her reply to me).

As for empathy, I have plenty. I'm thinking of the many shop workers who are out at risk during the course of the pandemic.

How would you buy food if you were shielding, or isolating? There is always a way, we've seen them listed on many threads here.

I'm sorry for any awful things anyone has been through, of course I am. But right now we are trying to stop a virus from spreading.[/quote]
See I think people like you, devoid of empathy and general goodwill, are the virus in society. I'd really like it if you stayed home and stayed quiet. People like you spread illwill and bad feeling, a contagion.

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind · 19/01/2021 20:48

[quote musicalfrog]@StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind I didn't say she didn't need to eat (which was the first part of her reply to me).

As for empathy, I have plenty. I'm thinking of the many shop workers who are out at risk during the course of the pandemic.

How would you buy food if you were shielding, or isolating? There is always a way, we've seen them listed on many threads here.

I'm sorry for any awful things anyone has been through, of course I am. But right now we are trying to stop a virus from spreading.[/quote]
So 'right now we are trying to stop a virus spreading' basically translates to 'and fuck anyone else- coronavirus is the only thing that matters'.

I have empathy for shop workers too- which is why all who ARE able to wear a mask should do so.

As I recall, for people who were shielding in the first lockdown, there were community volunteers who did people's shopping for them. Funnily enough, I don't remember this being advertised as something that survivors of domestic abuse were eligible to benefit from?

There is NOT 'always another way'.

I cannot believe the attitudes from women towards other women. Honest to god it's depressing, far more depressing that lockdown and coronavirus. Well I guess I can believe it, the lengths I felt I had to justify and explain the things I went through. And how very few people understood.

tootiredtospeak · 19/01/2021 20:48

My grandparents neighbour has been traumatised by people like you on this thread. He has to take his wife out with him she has alzheimer's and he cannot leave her. She will not accept she has it and will say she doesn't if questioned. He could prove it but she will be very upset and distressed with him. This last week he had been refused entry to a shop as there were two of them and had to answer why she had no mask to another. He needed to go out to get food and medication and he himself is not vunerable so doesn't qualify for any additional help and she wants to go out and gets very angry when they cant. My point is that you dont know everyone and everything about peoples circumstances
How do you know if the ones you are berating for being liars are in difficult situations such as the above. The worst thing about this whole pandemic is that it has shown me that the general public are willing to turn on each other for such a thing. It's awful to see and read.

Lifeinaonesie · 19/01/2021 20:50

I don't know why people get so stressed out about this whole issue. For the last six months I've not see anyone in shops without a mask. Do people sit and wait outside shops with binoculars waiting to catch people out?

GirlCrush · 19/01/2021 20:51

you have to prove disability for a disabled parking space ......so why are the dvla getting away with that?

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind · 19/01/2021 20:51

@PaddingtonsSister wow. Just wow. I don't know where to start with that except do you actually have empathy? Or know what it means?

littlepeas · 19/01/2021 20:53

I wear a mask but very strongly believe that nobody should have to give out private medical details to random people in Sainsbury’s ffs. People should not have to fear confrontation or have to justify themselves. Yes, some people take the piss, but that should not mean those who are genuinely exempt should be subject to abuse and interrogation.

Binglebong · 19/01/2021 20:54

Angry this thread is making me furious.

To the people who for whatever reason cannot wear a mask I support you. Most people do. I'm sorry for the shit you are suffering because of some mindless, empathy lacking twats.

PaddingtonsSister · 19/01/2021 20:56

[quote StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind]@PaddingtonsSister wow. Just wow. I don't know where to start with that except do you actually have empathy? Or know what it means?[/quote]
You don’t know me so cant judge If you want a blue badge or anything else you have to prove it Why is this any different? Why do we take it all on someones own say so My empathy is also with the people who have lost family due to covid because people are not wearing masks

musicalfrog · 19/01/2021 21:00

@Miramour You have no idea about me. I can assure you that you are wrong. You are simply unable to see the other side. Where is your empathy for those at risk of catching covid through simply being at work?

GirlCrush · 19/01/2021 21:01

i'm a retail manager...essential non food retailer

i also support non mask wearers

marshalling our door this afternoon and not too many customers without masks, at all

what i won't tolerate is customers putting them under chin or nose to speak to our colleagues or even just to wander round with it half off. disrespectful and rude, not to mention a massive risk

tootiredtospeak · 19/01/2021 21:02

Sympathy and Empathy isn't limited to one situation. You can be sympathetic to people who have lost relatives and be empathetic to people who cant wear masks. Or you can be a dick.

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind · 19/01/2021 21:13

@PaddingtonsSister as you know nothing about people who don't wear masks.

And you clearly have no empathy for survivors of abuse. As @tootiredtospeak said, it's possible to have empathy for both.

Sockwomble · 19/01/2021 21:14

Blue badges do not give information about what the persons disability is. At the moment there is no equivalent for those who cannot wear masks.

LangClegsInSpace · 19/01/2021 21:20

@MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously

Miramour, I'm not saying that people with a genuine need, shouldn't have an exemption. But they should have to prove it and GPs should facilitate that. Otherwise the piss takers just do whatever they want. My brother is currently very ill with Covid. He was going to work every day on the tube with lots of people not wearing masks. My nan has died from it. I don't want to catch this because some fucker thinks they don't have to justify their behaviour. The police can stop people and ask why they are leaving their home, I consider Sainsbury's have a right to ask people to cover their faces or explain why they don't have to!
Your brother was going to work every day on the tube with lots of people. That's the basic problem. Be angry that he was made to do that. Be angry that the tube is so crowded.
user1494050295 · 19/01/2021 21:23

Will those who don’t wear a mask (and therefore higher risk) be ok when they are in the hospital and have to have an oxygen mask?

CaramelE150d · 19/01/2021 21:23

I’m really unclear why people get worked up about this. I very occasionally see people who aren’t wearing a mask. Maybe they have a valid reason, maybe they’re a chancer. Either way, I don’t give a shit. So many people worrying about what other people are doing, like it’s some kind of personal slight.

MrsKypp · 19/01/2021 21:26

@Sockwomble

Blue badges do not give information about what the persons disability is. At the moment there is no equivalent for those who cannot wear masks.
There needs to be asap.

A photocard simply stating name and 'Exempt from wearing mask'

But really done securely and the police / whoever e.g. shops will need a machine to check it's a genuine card, so like passports.

It is a serious life or death issue with this evil virus.

GirlCrush · 19/01/2021 21:31

@Sockwomble

Blue badges do not give information about what the persons disability is. At the moment there is no equivalent for those who cannot wear masks.
yes i know this

but what i'm asking is how come the dvla get round the issue of equality act and asking for proof of disability

or i could be wrong and its not dvla who even issue blue badges

LangClegsInSpace · 19/01/2021 21:35

MrsKypp have you any idea how much time and how many resources would be required to set up a whole new system like that from scratch?

How long would we have to expect to be living with mandatory masks for such a system to be worthwhile?

PaddingtonsSister · 19/01/2021 21:40

[quote StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind]@PaddingtonsSister as you know nothing about people who don't wear masks.

And you clearly have no empathy for survivors of abuse. As @tootiredtospeak said, it's possible to have empathy for both. [/quote]
Empathetic for genuine ones Not for those who just don’t want to wear a mask So it would be much better for all if they carried a simple official exemption card Then every one would know they were genuinely exempt and be empathetic

MrsKypp · 19/01/2021 21:41

@LangClegsInSpace

MrsKypp have you any idea how much time and how many resources would be required to set up a whole new system like that from scratch?

How long would we have to expect to be living with mandatory masks for such a system to be worthwhile?

Less than what has been given to useless friends of Boris et al to do things they couldn't and didn't carry out.

Covid19 isn't going away that quickly. Unfortunatley. It will continue to cause havoc in the years that come, especially in winter. Vaccines will mitigate somewhat, but proper mask wearing is never a bad thing.

ancientgran · 19/01/2021 21:49

@Nancydrawn

Delighted to hear it. I'm so sick of the selfishness of anti-maskers.

They hurt people who legitimately can't wear one and they increase the spread of covid.

They also rely on the rest of us, who dislike wearing masks but are willing to sacrifice some of our own comfort for the general welfare, to behave so that the numbers don't skyrocket.

Absolute selfish dicks.

That sums it up well.