UK currently has highest coronavirus death rate in the world.

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COVID-19: UK currently has highest coronavirus death rate in the world, researchers say. The U.K. is a developed country with first class scientists and resources. Why is the death rate so high? Furthermore, why does the government continually boast everyday about how well they are doing tackling covid?

The government need to be held more accountable because their handling of covid is a complete disaster.

@reformedcharacters

OP, which researchers say the UK has the worst death rate in the world? And in what way? Do you have a link?

The UK does not have the highest death rate or highest deaths per 1 million population so not sure what you mean.

Think OP is referring to this (not just reported in the ES):

www.standard.co.uk/news/health/uk-highest-daily-covid-death-rate-world-oxford-research-b900231.html

Ageee completely OP. When the inquiry finally happens, it’ll be brutally scathing about our flimsy, unserious, corrupt central government.

Ah right it says currently, that’s likely due the the new variant in the UK. Many other countries have been ‘worst in the world’ at some point.

Spain is now seeing daily cases comparable to the UK, unfortunately their death rate may catch up to that and they may become ‘worst in the world’ at that point.

Thanks for the links I didn’t see it as I tend to avoid sensationalist headlines.

Johnson missed all those cobra meetings last February.
Late lock down in March - ignored scientists.
Never closed our borders - one of the worst decisions.
Dido Harding and her test and trace fiasco - costing billions of taxpayer money
Contracts to chums of Tory ministers, not health care professionals
Cummings and his covid positive drive across the UK.
Christmas u turns and rules relaxation.

Studies have shown that despite all this, compliance has been good, but it suits the government for people to blame each other.

highest death rate this week ...
back in mid 2020 it was Peru, at least when you adjust to the % of people age 65+. Them & Ecuador.
Belgium has usually been worst in Europe, just not this week.

Our 'league' table comparison should be with Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Belgium, Ireland -- not with whole world. To adjust for winter, lifestyle, obesity rates, GDPR, % population that is old, etc.

"some people may not be as cooperative but the governments yo-yo between tiers and lockdowns haven’t helped. "

It's the same in many other countries with lower death rates.

The problem is a poorly funded healthcare system and a lack of tracking and testing.

@Dundundunnn

The UK are notoriously non compliant, we have huge rates of obesity and poor lifestyle choices. We also have a 'longevity' approach to life, meaning we have an elderly population with many underlying health conditions.

This is incorrect.

UK is more compliant than many other countries, it does have obesity but is not at the top of the table, and many nations have significantly longer life expectancy helped by better healthcare during old age.

I wonder how S AFrica is doing - new variant there.
India?
I'm sure other countries had the 'worst daily death rate in the world' at some time over the past year.
We have the worst daily death rate at the mo, we didn't have the worst daily death rate at the start (China probably), then probably Italy or Spain had high rates for months.

Problem is people don't really understand statistics - including journos.

Johnson missed all those cobra meetings last February
Late lock down in March - ignored scientists.
Oh, Aethelsyouve missed out the best vaccination set up in the world ...... but that doesn't suit your anti-Tory accusations.
Israel is doing well but are tied into data provision to the pharmas which we aren't.

A real worry for the UK is that the government failures have ensured a very large number of people will have ongoing health problems.

1 in 5 still have covid symptoms after five weeks, 1 in 10 after 12 weeks and a significant number can not work after six months - the health care and benefits support will be huge.

Now they are reporting that 30% of those discharged from hospital return - a much higher percentage than for other illnesses.

This is because covid is complicated and causes lasting damage to many organs, even in young people with good health.

The government have been so completely careless with our population .

I don’t know whether you missed it OP, but there’s a new, and much more transmissible strain of the virus which has taken hold in the UK. It’s whipped through the population, is now getting under control, but leaving a legacy of cases caused by it who are just starting to die.

A real worry for the UK is that the government failures have ensured a very large number of people will have ongoing health problems.

Why - and after the next election we probably won't have the government we have now, could be same party, could be different but will probably have different people on the front bench. And why Uk and not Italy (where it seems the epidemic first started in Europe) or China who possibly started it, or Brazil where it is rife.

I feel a bit sorry for people who are going to be angry at a Gov forever, I would find it dispiriting and depressing to be constantly blaming someone and feeling hard done by. Just make a point of canvassing for another party at the next election if you are so upset by it all. Don't just complain.

@Lanzo

We have a lot of overweight, unhealthy people. We have an older population. These things are the main risk factors when it comes to dying of covid. Our health service is also not as good as some health services in other wealthy nations.

23 out of 35 European countries have a higher ageing population than we do, per capita www.statista.com/statistics/1105835/share-of-elderly-population-in-europe-by-country/

There’s not much difference in obesity rates either
ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Overweight_and_obesity_-_BMI_statistics

This government’s main skill is getting the population to blame anyone but them for the problems we face - immigrants, disabled people, unemployed people, Europe, old people, obese people... it’s always anyone’s fault but theirs. I cannot believe anyone has watched this disaster unfold and can’t see how useless they’ve been.

Everything was fine until Rishi brought in EOTHO. The blame lies at his door as far as I'm concerned.

What's your source? According to the Worldometer site other countries, such as Italy, Belgium, Bosnia Herzegovina, have more deaths per 1M population.

I’m sure the many thousands of struggling business owners and staff will not be blaming RS.

The worldometer website says that UK has 1360 deaths / 1M, being the 8th on the list. Some Countries have 1900 deaths /1M
How can the UK have the highest death rate if 7 countries have higher death rates?
What am i missing?

In Northern France there was a rave held with 2500 attendees in the new year, so it's not only this country with covidiots.

This government’s main skill is getting the population to blame anyone but them for the problems we face - immigrants, disabled people, unemployed people, Europe, old people, obese people... it’s always anyone’s fault but theirs. I cannot believe anyone has watched this disaster unfold and can’t see how useless they’ve been
Agree with this

@CoronaIsWatching

Everything was fine until Rishi brought in EOTHO. The blame lies at his door as far as I'm concerned.

Plus don't forget opening schools with NO mitigations other than a bit of hand sanitizer. I believe we are the only country in the world to have done that. Not to mention actually forbidding schools to use their initiative to implement things that might work

The fact that the government decided to make use of the pandemic to give enormous and vastly overgenerous government contracts to its friends, relatives and political donors - apparently 50% of contracts have been given to these people - despite those people having no prior experience - tells you all you need to know.
They are totally corrupt - happily putting personal wealth and power before the lives of UK citizens. For them, Covid is primarily an opportunity to extract public funds from the UK.

@PinkyParrot

A real worry for the UK is that the government failures have ensured a very large number of people will have ongoing health problems.

Why - and after the next election we probably won't have the government we have now, could be same party, could be different but will probably have different people on the front bench. And why Uk and not Italy (where it seems the epidemic first started in Europe) or China who possibly started it, or Brazil where it is rife.

I feel a bit sorry for people who are going to be angry at a Gov forever, I would find it dispiriting and depressing to be constantly blaming someone and feeling hard done by. Just make a point of canvassing for another party at the next election if you are so upset by it all. Don't just complain.

I don't need someone else to tell me what to do with my life and I certainly need no pity.

If you're happy with what's happened in Britain that's your right.

I believe we've been let down as a result of having the shittest PM during the biggest crisis since WW2, and the fact that Brazil has done even worse doesn't cheer me up.

China won't have anything like the health issues the UK will have.

Italy does look comparable. But that is no comfort - we saw what was happening there and the government didn't bother to do anything. Italy was our early warning.

Don’t you think people are owed a phone call from a nurse, doctor or medical professional?

A text to say you are positive isn’t really helpful.

There will be people out there who won’t know how to treat themselves or what to do.

I’ve seen online in many countries people are given vitamin d, c, z pack and various other things by delivery immediately to help prevent the worsening of the condition, by the time people are “allowed” hospital care they are too far gone here. In some countries with lower rates any positive cases are just uplifted and taken to facilities. Of course, we have let it go to far for that now.
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Just make a point of canvassing for another party at the next election if you are so upset by it all. Don't just complain
Personally I always vote against the Tories anyway so I know I'm not personally responsible for the damage done by the government's poor handling of covid or the damage done by brexit. Unfortunately continuing to vote against them won't undo the damage already done to people's health and the economy by brexit and the government's corruption and terrible handling of the pandemic

We're unhealthy, and we have an elderly population.

The pandemic has brought to light fact that nearly half the population claims to be clinically vulnerable.

The country is beginning to struggle with a third wave of the coronavirus as infections have tripled and hospital admissions doubled in the past three weeks.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/third-wave-hits-spain-in-record-rise-7lmd68gkp

“There was a record rise in infections over the weekend. The government said it would not impose a total lockdown but four regions have asked for one.”

@PhryneP

Just make a point of canvassing for another party at the next election if you are so upset by it all. Don't just complain Personally I always vote against the Tories anyway so I know I'm not personally responsible for the damage done by the government's poor handling of covid or the damage done by brexit. Unfortunately continuing to vote against them won't undo the damage already done to people's health and the economy by brexit and the government's corruption and terrible handling of the pandemic

Yes quite, the health of hundreds of thousands has already been wrecked.

Also in a democracy I can stand for parliament, canvass or just moan to my heart's content

@joystir59
Seriously? Your only contribution to this thread is to point out a spelling mistake. You are pathetic.

On the actual subject of the thread - I'm not even surprised at how many government apologists have crawled out of the woodwork to blame people for the shameful rate of Covid cases in this country. Of course there are plenty of idiots out there - they all seem to be congregated in the playing fields near me in fact - but this government has been a total disaster at handling the crisis. Mixed messages left, right and centre, last minute u-turns, actively bribing people to eat out the second things had settled down a bit, thereby giving them a false sense of security. Un-fucking-believable.

There will always be people who break the rules, but it helps considerably if the rules are clear. Not only have the rules in this country been a bit fuzzy round the edges, with plenty of room for interpretation - as demonstrated by the many threads on here where posters wonder if maybe they could maybe just ..... (insert example of rule breaking here) - but they have been inconsistent and often downright laughable.

I don't think any government could have handled this crisis perfectly, but no government could have done a worse job than the one in power now.