Teachers ask to wear masks in classrooms

[EnemyOfEducationNo1]

And social distancing indoors.
neu.org.uk/january-advice

@EnemyOfEducationNo1 but masks don’t protect the wearer.

@CountessFrog

I’m married to a doctor, need a holiday.

Colleagues in masks dropping like flies. So I’m not convinced that anything different would happen.

Doctors and nurses are asking for all healthcare staff to wear FFP3 masks in all clinical settings.

They’ve been attributed a magic force field.

Nuts

[quote WouldBeGood]@EnemyOfEducationNo1 but masks don’t protect the wearer.[/quote]
www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-07-08-oxford-covid-19-study-face-masks-and-coverings-work-act-now

@CountessFrog do you think it would be the same if they didn't wear masks or worse or just the same numbers

@CountessFrog

I’m married to a doctor, need a holiday.

Colleagues in masks dropping like flies. So I’m not convinced that anything different would happen.

I agree the surgical masks aren't great - I'm frontline and pretty sure I contracted COVID from a patient, but I didn't get it until October which suggests to me the Ppe protected me until then.

It looks like we might be getting filtered masks soon.

I find it amazing that because some people say masks are not effective we should do nothing and pretend there is no risk. In schools.
In any other setting the response would be to support increasingly mitigations. Like supporting more FFP3 masks for healthcare workers regardless whether they have known Covid people around or not.

All secondary students and teachers,have worn masks here since September ROI primary teachers too. They are worn in all shops and in steeet now too. Good compliance rate too

I don't want my 3 year old being taught by someone in a mask all day. Children need to see faces.

@Nannyamc

All secondary students and teachers,have worn masks here since September ROI primary teachers too. They are worn in all shops and in steeet now too. Good compliance rate too

Primary teachers too. And shockingly, our kids manage to learn! Some people here must have very little faith in the aptitude of kids or the teaching skills of staff. No reason that their experience should be any different to ours.

Out of interest, are some of you Covid deniers in general or just its effect in schools? Do you wear masks when you go the supermarket, for example? Aimed at @BogRollBOGOF and others who supported her comment.

What's the point in children being in school if the teacher can't communicate effectively?

They manage OK in other countries.

I understand that there can be issues for the minority of children who have hearing issues, but there are ways around this, or worst case scenario there could be discussion about homeschooling children with significant hearing difficulties for a while until vaccine coverage is good enough to ditch the masks. Because yes, having 2% of kids homeschooled is better than schools being shut for everyone. And I say that as someone who has some hearing difficulties.

Bear in mind that the corona-friendly classroom settings that are being used in a lot of schools (front facing separate desks) also have some compensating advantages for children with hearing difficulties.

I am deaf in one ear and sometimes struggled with primary classrooms due to the UK system's love of clustering children around tables (=blocked view of what was written the board, and nonstop chit-chat and distraction among the children).

I found things much easier once I got to upper secondary because we sat at our own desks and faced the front at all times and could see what was on the board without having to twist round to look at it, and the front facing, spaced out seating arrangements meant that there was very little background noise in the classroom.

@RosieLemonade
Then I don’t want to teach your three year old and she can stay at home with you. These are the choices.

I am not a Covid denier. I just have reservations about the handing of the virus.

If masks don’t work why do I have to wear it when I go to the doctors? Or anywhere inside other than a classroom?

I find it really weird that people are so against students wearing masks. I find it weird that so many people think teenagers couldn’t ‘cope’ somehow, that they have such a low opinion of children in the UK compared to the rest of the world. It’s really very odd.

@WouldBeGood

I am not a Covid denier. I just have reservations about the handing of the virus.

What do you think should be done?

Absolutely agree regarding FFP3 masks.

However that’s not what teachers want, I don’t think? Or am I wrong? Do teachers want to wear the same full PPE that my ITU consultant husband wears?

Because that appears to be effective. Flimsy surgical masks do not. This is my point.

I'd be more than happy for my 2 children to wear masks in class. They would too if it meant they could go to school. That would only be half the time their Dad has to wear one at work some shifts and he never has any complaints.

I'd like to know if those who object to mask wearing in classrooms would favour rota-based attendance instead; because if we start again just as we were in December, only this time with close contacts of known positive cases in the classroom, we're sure as shit going to be locked down again within weeks.

I. Wear a mask when I'm teaching in case I have covid and give it to a child or children in my class. They could become ill or take it home and give it to family. It may not prevent it completely but it does appear to reduce the chances. I'm appreciative when pupils give me the same consideration.

Mrs Hercule Poirot.

The evidence for the efficacy of the masks you are asked to wear is not found in the very fact you are asked to wear them. Being asked to wear them does not make them effective.

Wearing PPF3 masks that you’ve been for tested for does appear to work. It would seem a bit over the top for them to be mandatory in all
Public spaces though, which leaves us with the ones that don’t seem to work.

I can’t honestly understand why we still think they work, given the figures.

I'm not in the uk and am shocked that teachers are not wearing masks. I didn't realise this.
I teach primary english as a FL. We teachers (and kids over 12) have had to wear masks since the last lockdown. I have no problem teaching wearing a mask. We are all used to it now. Kids and adults learn to read expression in eyes.
schools here are not seen to be places where CV is transmitted, we have had isolated cases in my school (teachers and kids) but so far no transmission. I'm sure it's to do with mask wearing. most schools for over 16 y.o. are doing online school

We also have co2 monitors in classrooms. Risk of virus transmission increases at a certain level. We know when its necessary to open windows.

@RosieLemonade

I don't want my 3 year old being taught by someone in a mask all day. Children need to see faces.

Keep your 3 year old at home then.

@CountessFrog

Absolutely agree regarding FFP3 masks.

However that’s not what teachers want, I don’t think? Or am I wrong? Do teachers want to wear the same full PPE that my ITU consultant husband wears?

Because that appears to be effective. Flimsy surgical masks do not. This is my point.

www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-07-08-oxford-covid-19-study-face-masks-and-coverings-work-act-now

Yeah yeah yeah the whole world has decided to adopt mask wearing for no reason and in fact it’s the U.K. with its rampant covid in schools that has the right idea in not wearing them.

We’re really showing the world how silly they are with the unnecessary mitigation measures.