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U.K. enforced quarantine

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Oaktree55 · 17/01/2021 01:40

Wow given how reliant U.K. is on foreign investment etc never thought they’d introduce managed quarantine but apparently they are. I know some will say good but this will decimate huge part of U.K. economy 😱, they’ll have to keep in place for a long time too (NZ have indicated 18 months -2years). Blimey the implications are huge.

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HarrietSchulenberg · 17/01/2021 02:05

It's not really going to be that well managed though, is it? And we're hardly world leading at it - some countries have been quarantining properly since March and haven't collapsed yet.

Em777 · 17/01/2021 02:33

If they do this now, what was the point of the last ten months? Why didn’t we do it straight away like NZ and save 90,000 lives? I guess the answer is that now most of the world won’t allow us in anyway due to the mutant strain there’s not much to lose.

Feels a day late and a dollar short to me.

TheoriginalLEM · 17/01/2021 02:34

Oh don't worry, Boris wlll have changed his tactics to something else too little too late by monday.

The only thing that should be crossing borders anywhere just now is food and medical supplies.

Maybe there'll be rethink on "very important " business travel culture and the environment will be grateful

catsjammies · 17/01/2021 05:51

It's not really enforced though is it?

I'm currently quarantining in Australia and that is enforced. We've been shut in a hotel room for ever all days. There is a security guard on the corridor 24/7.

The U.K. aren't going to be 'enforcing' anything.

everythingthelighttouches · 17/01/2021 06:57

Em777

“If they do this now, what was the point of the last ten months? Why didn’t we do it straight away like NZ and save 90,000 lives? I guess the answer is that now most of the world won’t allow us in anyway due to the mutant strain there’s not much to lose.”

I’m hoping it means they’ve learnt from the last 10 months.

3 variants have popped up over the last couple of months that indicate the virus is evolving to be more transmissible and potentially to be able to resist vaccines.

It is sooner than we’d hope for and not in small steps but somewhat larger strides.

It is like a pandemic within a pandemic. We are now in a position with these new variants (and the others that will likely be discovered in the next few months) that we were in this time last year.

We are in a way better position to deal with it now.

InvincibleInvisibility · 17/01/2021 07:04

Do you have a source? Where would you have to quarantine?

This would hugely impact us as we travel regularly to the UK to see my parents (havent travelled since July).

everythingthelighttouches · 17/01/2021 07:14

InvincibleInvisibility

This is discussed widely by the WHO, NervTag and scientists more broadly. There are reports on the new variants from PHE and from the UK’s genome surveillance groups.
Patrick Vallance was explaining this on the national broadcast on Friday.

A good summary source I have for you is here, from a leading science journalist working for a respected magazine.

www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/01/new-coronavirus-variants-could-cause-more-reinfections-require-updated-vaccines

everythingthelighttouches · 17/01/2021 07:22

Oaktree55

“Wow given how reliant U.K. is on foreign investment etc never thought they’d introduce managed quarantine but apparently they are.”

I think the fact they are so loathe to do this and avoided it at significant cost last time, goes to show how concerned they are about the new variants.

For once, this may be a case where we lead and others follow.

The US have also issued a warning to all US citizens to get back from countries without testing facilities for travellers ASAP, so I think they are about to do similar.

soundofsilence1 · 17/01/2021 07:32

We don't know if the timescale will need to be that long. I thought it was going to be until they have more certaintly that the new variants will respond to the vaccine? NZ seems to have a different strategy and are holding off vaccination.

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Oaktree55 · 17/01/2021 07:34

@everythingthelighttouches yes agree but the implications are just mind boggling. Economically I mean. Sure the U.K. will be buoyed initially by pent up domestic spend but too much of our gdp is from foreign money. It’ll cause so much damage long term.

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notimagain · 17/01/2021 07:41

Wow given how reliant U.K. is on foreign investment etc never thought they’d introduce managed quarantine but apparently they are

Well according to at least one pro-Boris newspaper this AM it is "being considered" but nobody has announced that it is going to be introduced. I'm sure some will be keen on the idea....

Thedarksideofthemoon30 · 17/01/2021 07:52

In Thailand you have to quarantine in a hotel for 15 days. You’re locked in a room and not allowed to leave and you have to pay. They have hardly any cases. E we need to do it lol

notimagain · 17/01/2021 07:52

everythingthelighttouches

"I think the fact they are so loathe to do this and avoided it at significant cost last time, goes to show how concerned they are about the new variants".

I think managed quarantine for everybody entering the UK, without exception is a non starter, for financial, logistical and practical reasons...

It may play well to some politically to be seen to be clobbering all the rich and famous who some think are the only people travelling at the moment but there will have to be a whole raft of exemptions ( as there are now to "quarantine-lite) otherwise the whole logistics chain and elements of the UK infrastructure will cease to function.

everythingthelighttouches · 17/01/2021 08:02

Oaktree55 yes, it’s very grim for the economy.
The implications of not getting on top of new variants by aggressively tracking, tracing and isolating them, while there are still so few that we actually have a chance to do it, are also mind boggling.

Do you think currently there are many people coming in and out of the UK for business purposes? ( sorry, that’s probably a stupid question). I don’t think this quarantining applies to goods does it?

Londonnight · 17/01/2021 08:20

Thailand have very strict quarantine rules. You have to stay in a hotel which the government have approved. You are not allowed to leave the room under any circumstance for two weeks. Their cases there are very low.

notimagain · 17/01/2021 08:22

Do you think currently there are many people coming in and out of the UK for business purposes?

I think you have to define "business purposes" before you can come up with numbers.

Do you only count the people people in sharp suits travelling to broker a deal or do you also include the likes of oil/gas rig workers travelling through the UK to go offshore, maritime/aircrew travelling to join vessels/ take freighter out of the UK?

From what I've seen there's relatively little of the former ATM but a fair few of the latter......

FlyMyPrettiesFly · 17/01/2021 08:33

I think we just need to accept that the economy is absolute fucked, on scale we probably haven’t seen before. I’m not sure many people are really that switched on to how bad it’s going to get.

notimagain · 17/01/2021 08:37

@FlyMyPrettiesFly

I think we just need to accept that the economy is absolute fucked, on scale we probably haven’t seen before. I’m not sure many people are really that switched on to how bad it’s going to get.

Sadly I think you might be right ( both your sentences).

inquietant · 17/01/2021 08:38

The US have also issued a warning to all US citizens to get back from countries without testing facilities for travellers ASAP, so I think they are about to do similar.

I am hopeful that once the US has a President again (three more days!) there may be more global leadership, at that point the UK will suddenly feel more exposed being this shit at managing things. Then the UK might get it's shit together.

EileenGC · 17/01/2021 08:40

The only thing that should be crossing borders anywhere just now is food and medical supplies.

I welcome your suggestions on how I should pay for my food and bills then, if I'm able to cross borders.

inquietant · 17/01/2021 08:40

@FlyMyPrettiesFly

I think we just need to accept that the economy is absolute fucked, on scale we probably haven’t seen before. I’m not sure many people are really that switched on to how bad it’s going to get.

Agree with this.

I don't think 'trying to limp on' is working as a strategy, a few people buying coffees is not really making the difference.

If we treated the pandemic like a war we could perhaps get somewhere.

The next 5-10 years are looking unrecognisable from those we were imagining in 2019.

EileenGC · 17/01/2021 08:41

not able

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 17/01/2021 09:25

@Thedarksideofthemoon30

In Thailand you have to quarantine in a hotel for 15 days. You’re locked in a room and not allowed to leave and you have to pay. They have hardly any cases. E we need to do it lol

I agree, charges should be very high as well so as to put people off going on holiday.

DazedandConcerned · 17/01/2021 09:47

The biggest issue is that they don’t bother to ensure you are doing quarantine. I got home from Egypt on 23 December and completed my quarantine on 2 January. Didn’t leave the house once.

But. I never even received a call checking up on me. Maybe if people were being caught out and fined they’d think twice about breaking the rule.

PicsInRed · 17/01/2021 10:45

Quarantine hotels are on their way.

It's across multiple newspapers, so whilst they say they're "considering" it, this is really one of those "we're doing it, get used to it" press releases. It will also provide income to hotels and keep them afloat during border closure.

NZ had to hand this over to the army as the logistics and practicalities were too complicated for civil service (MoH), hopefully we'll do that from the start and save time.

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/england-covid-travel-uk-arrivals-quarantine-hotels-b900036.html

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