Vaccinations

[Botherfreedays]

For those of us who are in the category of people who will be vaccinated last and not until the autumn - there is no guarantee that the vaccine stops transmission. Therefore we will be relying on those who are vaccinated and won't have concerns about catching it to stay at home and keep the rest of us safe. Tables turned. Will they? Won't they?

Had the vaccine yesterday and yes I will until restrictions are eased and say I don't have to stay at home. Then I will do the same as I did last year and do whatever is allowed that I feel comfortable doing. In theory restrictions should be eased before autumn as it won't require everyone to have been vaccinated, just enough of the vulnerable.

Restrictions will ease once hospitals are no longer likely to be overwhelmed. So no-one should need to stay at home.

Restrictions will be relaxed once the most vulnerable are vaccinated and the NHS isn’t being overwhelmed. No one will need to stay at home until Autumn.

Haha of course they won’t. I work in an industry that’s still open, no social distancing and no PPE and I won’t be protected at all. I’m very worried. I am morbidly obese so in an at risk category.

@Mousehole10

Restrictions will be relaxed once the most vulnerable are vaccinated and the NHS isn’t being overwhelmed. No one will need to stay at home until Autumn.

Yeah, who gives a f**k about the 25% of people currently in hospital that are under 55, many of them previously fit and healthy. 🙄

@MaxNormal

Restrictions will ease once hospitals are no longer likely to be overwhelmed. So no-one should need to stay at home.

But we keep being told that hospitals are also treating people in their 30s, 40s etc not just the elderly?

It’s all to do with hospital pressure. Not cases.

Mmmm. So they won't care about me in a couple of months. Should I care about them now?

But we keep being told that hospitals are also treating people in their 30s, 40s etc not just the elderly?

Yes but its about reducing the number of people who need a bed

Of course not. The young work force are dispensable vs the old and vulnerable.

I feel totally and utterly let down. I’m not allowed to fear for my life so long as we vaccinate the 70+ everyone else can fend for themselves. It’s awful.

What you can do is be the right weight for your height and eat well and don’t smoke . If you have no serious health concerns (enough to warrant a vaccine now) and you are healthy in weight there is a very very low chance of becoming seriously ill.
It’s the same figures as before - just many many more people infected so of course numbers in all age ranges will have risen a lot.

@GeorgieTheGorgeousGoat

Of course not. The young work force are dispensable vs the old and vulnerable.

I feel totally and utterly let down. I’m not allowed to fear for my life so long as we vaccinate the 70+ everyone else can fend for themselves. It’s awful.

Why are you fearing for your life??

I'm having the vaccine next week. I'm CEV and have had Covid.

I am continuing to stay home and keep others safe.

I think most people will continue to stay at home while the rules say they have to, but like last summer once restrictions ease many people (of all ages and whether vaccinated or not) will go out and about. I don't see it as any different to last year. People generally didn't stay at home to protect people last summer, because they didn't have to, it surely will be the same this year.

Ooh look, yet another goady ageist thread!

@Littlewhitedove2

See my post at 15:03

It’s not ageist to point out hypocrisy in the thought process of this all. It’s not the elderly’s fault but they have been shielded and prioritised (rightly so) but to then say the rest of us can just lump it feels very harsh. I’ve had the economic hardship too, I doubt any elderly have because they aren’t working. My children have had exams cancelled and opportunities taken away also.
We just want to feel like we matter too.

I will continue to follow whatever rules are in force at the time.

I’m in group 6 for vaccination, but the timing of that is moot since I’m currently recovering from Covid. I almost certainly have at least as much immunity as I would get from the vaccine, at least for a while.

The difference to me is that, once we are allowed to go to coffee shops etc again, I might actually go in them, whereas previously I was not doing. I stayed a long way inside the rules, to reduce my own risk. I won’t feel the need to do that any more, but I will follow the rules to reduce the risk to others.

I’m 57, obese and have diabetes. And like the vast majority of people even in this “increased risk” bracket, did not need hospital care.

What do you mean 'tables turned'?

My DD is CV and we haven't been able to go out safely since March because of the folks not wearing masks, social distancing properly etc and our government failing to get a proper handle on Test and trace.

[quote GeorgieTheGorgeousGoat]@Littlewhitedove2

See my post at 15:03

It’s not ageist to point out hypocrisy in the thought process of this all. It’s not the elderly’s fault but they have been shielded and prioritised (rightly so) but to then say the rest of us can just lump it feels very harsh. I’ve had the economic hardship too, I doubt any elderly have because they aren’t working. My children have had exams cancelled and opportunities taken away also.
We just want to feel like we matter too.[/quote]
Of course you matter but comparing yourself to an elderly person in terms of this virus is completely wrong.
Assuming you are under 50, have no underplaying health conditions and are not overweight, what the heck are you on about?? You have a far far FAR greater chance of being poorly from this than an elderly person. So in terms of this vaccination programme, no, you don’t matter as much because statistically you have a very small chance of needing a hospital bed?
Why on Earth are you fearing for you life or trying to say you are as much at risk as others who are getting their vaccinations first? I don’t get your argument at all

I am overweight (very) but because it’s not on my GP notes (whose recent weight is?) then I won’t be called forward for a vaccine. I AM at risk.

I expect once people start feeling safe, they will want to go on vacation, shop, eat out, go to the cinema, play sport, go to live music, do their jobs again. Many people over 50 will hope to live a normal life once they have the vaccine. However, many will still have kids and relatives they care for who aren't vaccinated and will presumably be careful in those cases not to spread disease. Frankly if we don't try to live normally we may as well accept the complete collapse of our economy. We have to try.

Older people are just human, so there will be a range of responses just as there have been in younger people, won't there?

Well I don't qualify for the flu jab but still take my chances every year. I really won't be hiding away from this illness just like I don't hide away from any others.

We could all catch anything that could kill us, a cold can lead to sepsis. People die from Norovirus.

Huge amounts of people travel in cars, very dangerous.

Hundreds of people die of cancer ever day. Any one of us could have it right now and not know.

Dunno Don't care.

I’m not sure how the tables have turned. I’m sure there is a minority on either side of this vaccine debate who do not abide by the rules - I’m particularly thinking of those who have told the elderly and vulnerable to ‘stay home if they’re frightened’ because they need to live their lives.

I do think most people care about others and will do their bit to keep others safe.

Perhaps I’m naive though!

@Botherfreedays

Mmmm. So they won't care about me in a couple of months. Should I care about them now?

If you're under 50 or so and with no relevant medical conditions, even if you catch the virus it's likely to be a mild illness. What do you want everyone to 'care' about? There are lots of infectious illnesses doing the rounds. The aim of lockdowns is to prevent the health services become overwhelmed, not to ensure nobody gets the virus ever.

If you consider yourself at risk, nothing stopping you locking yourself up as long as you feel it's neccessary.