Covid Scotland - new restrictions tomorrow? 13/01.

[TiredUselessHopeless]

I’m trying to think what “new” restrictions they’re talking about that could be brought in tomorrow?

We can’t see anyone, we can’t do anything, we can’t go anywhere.

What exactly is there left to crack down on? What secret activities are there going on that I’m currently unaware of that are causing such a huge rise in infection and death rates in 100s of people?

They need to reduce school numbers. Some schools have more attending than not. She needs to look at the key worker tier system and find ways to remove some level 3 occupations. This allows those in higher levels to continue to work while reducing school numbers.

@IceDiscoSkater

Expecting:

No meeting up with anyone outside at all
Limits on travel - back to March - only exercise by walking from house
Shutting of non essential click and collect like Argos / Next / Smyths toys
Closing of take away coffee shops and sandwich shops that you need to actually enter to pay and get your item eg Costa / Greggs ( greggs and costa in our town still very busy with queues daily )

Not sure about construction, surely this is a massive industry which if closed means huge tax revenue loss for the government?
Also it would be terrible as lots of self employed contractors within this industry who will get zero financial support in Covid schemes .

Given up on any announcements on school, have pretty much resigned myself to the schools being off until June. Mentally preparing for 6 months with a house full of kids. Everything else pales into comparison with this disaster.

I believe construction will be closing. My brother works on a site in Scotland & they were told that as of Friday they are closing as they believe NS will be shutting down construction. I've just mentioned it to my boss & now he's panicking that he'll have to furlough us again, due to construction closing making the economy nose dive

I can't remember but do the changes normally come in with immediate effect or is there a couple of days 'grace' so to speak?

What about places like citizens advice bureaux and other advice organisations etc are they staying open and are they viewed as key workers.

@Leeeeeeeeeeeeeee Is your brothers place closing by choice? What if NS doesn't shut construction down?

[quote SilkyMoonfaceandTheSaucepanMan]@Leeeeeeeeeeeeeee Is your brothers place closing by choice? What if NS doesn't shut construction down?[/quote]
By choice at the present time, as they believe it's inevitable if it's being discussed. Perhaps the buying of the new houses have dropped and they are looking for a good excuse not to find wages

@Leeeeeeeeeeeeeee - I see. I just ask as my DH is in construction, and I do wonder what'll happen if they shut it down.

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@MaxNormal

FFS. It's transmitting in hospitals and care homes. In the homes of people who are continuing to see friends and relatives indoors. This is performative bollocks that will cause huge financial harm and remove the small pleasures keeping many people going in the grimmest months of winter after what has been a really difficult year. Just for fucking show.

Completely. She has to be seen to be doing something, whether or not it makes a blind bit of difference. Our cases are not rising in Scotland. last week we were having 2000 new cases a day, that's down to 1800. Still too high, but it's decreasing.

Rather than fannying about with takeaways and click and collect they should be throwing absolutely everything at mass vaccination. England have 7 centres up and running as of last Monday. We have.... none.

When is she on? Please

announcement at 12:30 @wonderwhatshappening1978

Defo From Nicola?

(Thanks)

Banning people from meeting for exercise has a disproportionate effect on women as men can still go out on their own in the dark, and women can't (or won't feel like they can) and daylight hours are so short at the moment, especially in Scotland.

I do not for one second believe the majority of cases are caused by people shopping.

@mumwalk

Are they not also saying it will spread in schools as there are too many children going in? They might have to do something to help reduce the number of people who have to claim places. In our school there are children of non-critical workers attending.

In our council area it’s just vulnerable children and those with two key worker parents (or if it’s a single parent then one key worker) which feels alright to me, depending on how they’re defining key worker though.

I’m not an essential worker but have (legally) been going into work for the whole time. There’s more of that going on than people think.

I'm more anxious about this announcement than I have been about any other so far. As PP have mentioned, it seems like anything she is likely to do will be performative crap while not tackling the spread in hospitals and care homes and not rolling out the vaccinations quickly enough.

Exercise is keeping me sane and I'm lucky that I have DH and can go out with him. If I was a woman living alone, there is no way I'd be going out in my area (rural, not a lot of street lighting, not to mention icy pavements and paths) at the moment. Food delivery services don't deliver to our village. We have 1 Chinese, 2 pubs and a local cafe all doing take-away. All organised well with social distancing and it has been a real pick-me-up to able to use these places from time to time. All have said that they can't afford to offer deliver so will have to shut down completely if this is the case and may not re-open. My neighbour is the cafe owner and she's been wandering around looking utterly broken recently. DH is a retail manager in an area which is borderline essential (essential in England and Wales, not Scotland). They are surviving through click and collect and have put so many measures in place to ensure sanitisation and distancing. He's freaking out, waiting for the axe to fall today.

I do not for one second believe the majority of cases are caused by people shopping

Me neither. I suspect a lot of people contacted by track and trace aren't going to admit to socialising in their own home / other people's home or breaching covid secure guidelines at work etc, so those areas will be hugely under reported.

Tuned in
Let’s see what is said
How much more doom and gloom can we take

I can't bring myself to watch 😪

This was the guidelines on Monday...

I only know because a friend who lives alone asked to meet me for a walk.

So is social interaction still an "essential reason" to leave the house?

I'm allowed to see my Nanna, who is 90, I am her support and I have POA so no problem there. But I can't get a coffee at the costa driver thru on the way home because that's non essential? Why are they open if the 'non essential' line basically means we shouldn't be going?

You can get a drive through as takeaway is allowed through a latch now

@ssd

You can get a drive through as takeaway is allowed through a latch now

But it's non essential?

I can't work out why we are being told not to leave home but for essential reasons, but we can go to a drive through for coffee.

I won't do it, I just wonder where the sense is. It's things like this that make people more likely to break rules.

I could be wrong