Why do people not realise that this behaviour also puts massive strain on the NHS?

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Running/jogging on icy pavements
Non essential journeys in the car on snowy/icy roads
'but we' re allowed out to exercise'
Careering down really steep hills on sledges. Facebook and WhatsApp full of this. Activity of choice in lockdown it seems.

I'm so sick of people not realising the potential harm they could be doing to already massively under pressure hospitals.

Feel so sorry for nhs doctors and nurses and hcps. Take your busiest day at work and multiple it by 100 and then throw in the mix that people's lives are in their hands- probably still not even close to the stress they are under.

I totally despair.

Best stop staying at home and sewing. Those needles are fecking sharp.

@PickAChew

Best stop staying at home and sewing. Those needles are fecking sharp.

You jest, but I was watching one of those 999/Ambulance type programs recently and in it, paramedics were called to an elderly lady who stood on a sewing needle and it got stuck in her foot.

@Daydrambeliever

You’re not being unreasonable OP. I have a horse and could go miles off-site from the livery, but we don’t. We stay on-site (no road riding) and school or use the extensive land around the livery. No big jumps, no cross-country. Sensible.

Is this a piss take? I can't tell anymore on mumsnet.

It makes sense if you have a horse 🐎

Just watched Gogglebox and they were watching Final Destination. It made me think of this thread.
If the Covid doesn't kill you, you'll break your neck in the ice, or you'll choke on your banana loaf, or your laptop will electrocute you mid zoom quiz, or you'll drop dead from righteous indignation!

I will go for a run in the icy weather because I need the exercise and I’ll be careful.

Personally I’m more anxious about the fact that this government is making no plans to invest and reboost the NHS. The fact it has chronically underfunded the nhs is a large reason we are in this shit show.

Jesus Christ people have been shut inside, unable to see family. Unable to visit loved ones. Coping as best they can.
And now you want to stop what little joy they are trying to find? I suspect they have weighed up the risk.

If people shut themselves up at home we will have a bigger mental health crisis than we already have then the NHS will still be under strain with them.

I’m not disputing that people need to take care but come on, laying into people for jogging?

@ExpulsoCorona How the fuck is someone supposed to control whether they get appendicitis or not

The only reason I'm not out all day on the ice is that falling over fucking hurts. And, thanks to musculoskeletal issues, I'm meandering in an accelerated fashion towards that age where falling over becomes having a fall.

@xenobitch in the early days of youtube, i remember watching a video of a woman who put pins between her lips as she pulled them out and accidentally aspirated one - needed surgery to have it removed!

I just hope that OP never wears pants or slippers because they are seriously dangerous garments.

Best to just lie artfully, semi-nude on the sofa and hope that hypothermia irva DVT don't get you.

Can we add eating to the list of risky things we should not bother the NHS with to because it is our fault? Years ago, I was a hungry pig and scoffed some belly pork down and it got stuck... could not breath in AT ALL. Was scary as hell. My vision was going blurry and I was going to pass out and die!. Gave myself an almighty punch in the chest and it went flying out.

[quote MercyBooth]@ExpulsoCorona How the fuck is someone supposed to control whether they get appendicitis or not [/quote]
@MercyBooth
Of course they are not supposed to control whether they get appendicitis or not! Spectacularly missed my point. People will get appendicitis, like they always do. Normally they would go to A&E and get admitted. Normally they would be assessed by surgeons and put on an operating list the same or next day. This cannot happen if all the beds are physically full of patients can it? So then what happens? Something that normally has an excellent survival rate suddenly becomes very deadly. This is why we need hospital beds to be not full of Covid.

This is surely not serious..?

And also A&Es need to be not full of other crap that was avoidable. This is what OP is trying to say.

@ExpulsoCorona

And also A&Es need to be not full of other crap that was avoidable. This is what OP is trying to say.

Yet the mentally ill are usually told not to isolate to help with their recovery... but now they are forced to. So in a sordid turn of events, they end up in A&E.

OK, I get enjoying the mickey taking. But the emergency services are often called out to people stuck on mountains when they were poorly equipped or are out in small boats they have no idea how to handle or go into a river to rescue a dog that is out of the water before they are.

Doesnt hurt to think twice before you do something about whether you need to do it, what risk is involved and how to reduce it. It is possible for adults to exercise indoors or go out later when the ice has melted, you can keep a dog on a lead instead of in the river, if you have to drive on ice consider snow socks, if you have to walk on it yaktraks, if you must go sledging somewhere with a long flat stretch to slow down, not a wall or trees to crash into.

Thank you to the horse riders who have understood the point.

You are completely right in that people are treating this all like a holiday and not a stay-at-home order.
However as a nurse treating Covid + patients all night I also put a sledge in my online basket for my children on my day off.

Wow I bet your a right laugh on a night out!!

Wheh it snows I'll telll my kids 'sorry son you can't play in the snow incase you break your ankle'

It's people like you that make people guilty of using te NHS at all!!!!

@ItStartedWithAKiss241 no one is treating it like a bloody holiday how dare you assume they are!!! There are suicidal / depressed / lonely / very scared frightened people.

I've started jogging throug this lockdown because I am in all day long juggling children homeschool / wfh - running gives me headspace I need, plus it's exercise.

I think it’s definitely worth thinking about pausing some of the more dangerous activities we might usually do. Now isn’t the time for actual mountain biking, and it’s probably not a good time to take up extreme skateboarding, for example. Maybe knock off a bit of parcourt and take great care when using chainsaws. That kind of thing.

Totally agree op.

The NHS is going to be overwhelmed in the next few weeks as levels of the virus climb beyond anything seen before.

Yet people are taking stupid risks.

Sending their kids to school and laughing about beating the system

If someone in your family gets ill or has an accident and then has to wait on a trolley or in an ambulance for hours or days

Wake up to what is happening

My friend broke his arm in 1st lockdown. He needed an op. The surgeons had been really quiet and were really pleased to see him!

@sm40 That wouldnt happen now in London and it could be coming soon to someone near you. Dont wait for an ambulance if you need one but are able to get to a&e yourself.

In the first wave some London hospitals converted their theatres to ICUs but kept one for emergencies or were able to divert ambulances to hospitals further away. London patients now have to be sent outside London. Even urgent operations for cancer are being stopped. Admissions will increase for a few weeks from past infection, in the next 2 weeks people will die for lack of care. After that it may slightly improve but London has a disproportionate number of younger people in hospital, vaccination wont make a lot of difference for quite a time.

This is not the last lockdown, this is people who could survive but wont.

not all the hospitals are covid.
there is still availability for broken bones op

I totally agree OP. People are fucking stupid.