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Two Women fined for walking for Starbucks

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Superketchup · 08/01/2021 13:17

What rule have they broken? I don’t understand. Two of them met - yes can meet one other person - they’d driven 5 miles - surely that’s ok?! - and they had a Starbucks each which the police said was a picnic?!
Why are they keeping takeaways open if it’s agaisnt the law to get one? I took my kids to the park, the coffee shop was open for takeaway. It was freezing. We got a hot chocolate each. I’m too scared to do so again!

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whittystitties · 09/01/2021 15:32

@fluufy

How are you interpreting "You may leave the house to go to work, do essential shopping, pick up a takeaway and for exercise" as ''being begged to stay the fuck at home'? How are you not? You CAN do certain things, if you must, but you've been advised over and over and over again not to. Yes legally you can meet a friend for exercise, but you've been asked to stay at home and not meet anyone unless its actually essential. Metting your mate for coffee is not essential.

How are you STILL not getting this? Do people actually have to die right in front of you for you to understand? Just because you can legally do something doesn't mean you should do it

Walking is exercise, having a hot drink whilst doing it isn't tantamount to treason - really, you lot are delusional
fluufy · 09/01/2021 15:34

Stop with the emotional blackmail this thread is about two people going for a walk however much you think they are spreading it they are not

You have no way of knowing that, one of them could have given it to the other to bring home quite easily.

Funkypolar · 09/01/2021 15:37

I went to M&S Foodhall today and popped into the Starbucks next door on my way home.

Quaagars · 09/01/2021 15:41

I went to M&S Foodhall today and popped into the Starbucks next door on my way home

Shock I hope you needed that coffee.

I'm joking lol

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 09/01/2021 15:41

As a local to these women I can tell you we're on the borders of 3 counties so could just drive a couple of mins in various directions and be crossing into another county. I absolutely agree that this reservoir is 'local' to our town but in another county so Derbyshire police are going nuts. There were 4 police officers outside a local NT place as well.

merrymouse · 09/01/2021 16:02

Meeting your mate for coffee is not essential.

At this point many people living alone will consider that it is essential.

If the government honestly think COVID is being transmitted by 2 people who are having a socially distanced walk away from others, they need to communicate that by changing the rules.

VinylDetective · 09/01/2021 16:09

@IAmMeThisIsI

Stay in the house. I don't think we even need this exercise rule. It's just giving people a loophole. If the schools are closed then unless we need food/medicine then there's no reason to leave the house. Unless you're a career or an essential worker just stay in the freaking house! It's not like you're being asked to tarmac a roof in July! You're being asked to stay snuggled up inside for winter. Ffs. I don't understand why some people HAVE to be outside all the time.
Dogs have the be walked. Human beings need fresh air and exercise. We’re going to have decades of health problems if people just sit on their arses at home.
RaspberryCoulis · 09/01/2021 16:16

@fluufy

Stop with the emotional blackmail this thread is about two people going for a walk however much you think they are spreading it they are not

You have no way of knowing that, one of them could have given it to the other to bring home quite easily.

The calls to "stop it with the emotional blackmail" are justified but falling on deaf ears.

Ever since this whole shitshow started there has been a very loud minority on MN who are terrified. Many will say they are vulnerable but who knows whether that's true or not. These people love nothing better than to sit in judgement on others.

Sticking to the LAW isn't good enough for these people. They expect everyone to interpret the (admittedly more woolly) guidance in exactly the same way as they do. If they have three parks and five supermarkets within 10 minutes then they cannot see that someone living half way up a Scottish mountain might interpret "local" in a different way. They're happy to live on life's very basics of water, bread, eggs, which they get delivered. Anyone who expresses the desire for a takeaway, or nicer food from Waitrose/M&S is a selfish covidiot who should be staying the fuck at home. Going out for a walk instead of staying the fuck at home and watching Joe Wicks? You're a superspreader who has blood on their hands. Booking a click and collect to pick up some jigsaws/Lego for the kids to stop them driving you to distraction? That unnecessary journey is personally responsible for the death of their granny. Your takeaway coffee is the height of reckless irresponsibility when you have a perfectly good kettle in the house. Nobody needs to see their parents/friends in person when they have Zoom.

And on and on and on ever since March where exactly the same contingent was pouring scorn over people buying Easter Eggs. It's never fucking ending. They don't care about your mental health, or other health issues, or loneliness, or your children's education, or any other difficulty you may be having because ALL THAT MATTERS IS COVID.

It's fucking depressing and makes this forum almost unusable.

Delatron · 09/01/2021 16:19

Amen to that @RaspberryCoulis

The restrictions are hard enough without forgoing the things we are actually allowed to to do, which are good for us and our mental and physical health.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 09/01/2021 16:21

raspberrycoulis

Hear hear 👏🏻

CarlottaValdez · 09/01/2021 16:30

Stay in the house. I don't think we even need this exercise rule. It's just giving people a loophole. If the schools are closed then unless we need food/medicine then there's no reason to leave the house

That’s definitely not going to help anything. It’ll just mean we’re all fatter and more vitamin D deficient. I don’t think I’ve gone a full day without leaving my house in years, I need fresh air and exercise. I don’t think it’s wise to start making up your own rules then trying to furiously enforce them on the internet. You’ll drive yourself nuts.

VinylDetective · 09/01/2021 16:31

@RaspberryCoulis, absolutely spot on. 👏🏻

Same4Walls · 09/01/2021 16:37

@RufustheSniggeringReindeer

raspberrycoulis

Hear hear 👏🏻

Absolutely fantastic, a great post that is 100% spot on!!
tigger1001 · 09/01/2021 16:43

@RaspberryCoulis 👏👏 very well said.

CornishYarg · 09/01/2021 16:47

@RaspberryCoulis Another amen from me. Whatever we do and however much we give up, it feels like it will never be enough for some people. Telling people who are complying with the rules that they're still being selfish is not the way to achieve a high level of compliance in the population.

hobbyiscodefordogging · 09/01/2021 16:47

As xenia has said these fixed penalty notices will not stand. The police were not correct in issuing them and no law was broken. It's a ridiculously heavy handed approach and I'd urge everyone to understand their rights in these circumstances.

CruCru · 09/01/2021 17:01

I completely agree RaspberryCoulis

What is worrying is that this sort of thing makes the general population afraid of the police.

Five miles is a really long way in central London but for many people in Sussex or Hampshire ((I don’t know Derbyshire very well) it’s not thought of as any distance at all.

I also wonder whether these women were targeted because they are women and therefore easier to approach and intimidate.

XenoBitch · 09/01/2021 17:01

@IAmMeThisIsI

Stay in the house. I don't think we even need this exercise rule. It's just giving people a loophole. If the schools are closed then unless we need food/medicine then there's no reason to leave the house. Unless you're a career or an essential worker just stay in the freaking house! It's not like you're being asked to tarmac a roof in July! You're being asked to stay snuggled up inside for winter. Ffs. I don't understand why some people HAVE to be outside all the time.
Pretty telling you say house. Some people live in high rise flats or tiny bedsits with no access to any garden whatsoever. So easy to tell others to stay home when you have the delusion that everyone has space, garden, family and internet at their disposal.
lazylinguist · 09/01/2021 17:04

I don't think we even need this exercise rule. It's just giving people a loophole.

Exercise and fresh air are important for health. Being healthy puts you in a better position to fight the virus if you get it. You might be happy to lead a sedentary life for months, but some people are rightly trying to keep themselves and their children active.

Newsflash - being outside is not risky Covid behaviour unless you are getting close to people while you are out. Do you honestly think that individuals or families out for a walk on their own are what is spreading the virus? Of course they aren't. The virus is being spread indoors in care homes, doctors' surgeries, hospitals, offices, public transport, schools and shops, where people are inside with other people and often minimal ventilation. Get a grip.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 09/01/2021 17:12

I don't think we even need this exercise rule. It's just giving people a loophole

I think if it was amended to say no driving to exercise and only from the same household only it would have pretty much the same effect whilst not curtailing those that do actually exercise.

lazylinguist · 09/01/2021 17:18

I think that it's positively beneficial to let people drive a short distance to exercise, so that people in busier areas can avoid milling about where there are lots of people. I don't live in a busy area, but I'm still much more likely to walk nearer to more people in my village than I am a few miles away out in the fields or woods.

Yogalola · 09/01/2021 17:24

Maybe there’s more to this than being reported.

ImAllOut · 09/01/2021 17:29

I don't think there's more to the story as the NPCC have had a word with Derbyshire Constabulary (again..) and they've rescinded multiple fines from the past few days.

Lmttcch4 · 09/01/2021 17:30

Don't be scared! We have to keep doing things and quietly and confidently state that we are not breaking any law, or we'll lose all our basic rights, and go crazy!

skodadoda · 09/01/2021 18:12

@Orf1abc

Ms Allen, who lives in Ashby-de-la-Zouch in Leicestershire, said: 'I genuinely thought someone had been murdered... my car was surrounded... one of them started reading my rights and I was looking at my friend thinking ''This must be a joke''.'

So they were sat in the car. They may not have travelled together, but she's clearly acknowledging they were in the car.

There are legitimate reports of police being overzealous, but the 'air hostess make up artist with anxiety' is an attention seeker.

Saying that the car was surrounded does not mean that they were both sitting in it.
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